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FAQ STARTED FEB 16 / UP TO DATE MAR 10/ LAST EDIT JUNE 7
Changes: I'M NOT UPDATING THIS ANYMORE UNLESS THERES A BIG ANNOUNCEMENT

YES YOU CAN EDIT YOUR LISTS NOW. IF IT HASN'T COME BACK YET IT'S LOST
DEVS DO NOT SEEM TO BE EDITING STUFF ANYMORE THIS FAQ IS VERY OUTDATED
AND NO I AM NOT COMING BACK TO EDIT IT ANYMORE
I HAVE LOWK QUIT THIS SITE BECAUSE OF THIS SITUATION

SUMMARY:
・ONLY RATED/TAGGED IS COMING BACK. THE REST IS NOT. (disk crash/ info loss)
・NO. This was not done on purpose. Don’t send hate to the developers!
・Please be careful when editing your lists! More info below.
・The only way to recover the rest of your lists now is to do it manually.
・Make a back-up of your lists off-site! (spreadsheet/ mangaupdates/ etc.)
ㅤ‣ 'lists' will refer to your 'read/reading/already read’ lists
ㅤ‣ while 'custom lists' will refer to these lists: http://www.mangago.me/listtag/

Disclaimer: I AM NOT A MOD OR DEVELOPER! Extended disclaimer below.
IF YOU DON'T HAVE A QUESTION DON'T REPLY TO THIS THREAD PLEASE

The list recovery info is outdated now, but I recommend you read Suujin's FAQ too!
https://www.mangago.me/home/mangatopic/21080691/

=~=~+~=~= WHAT HAPPENED =~=~+~=~=
Q: What happened? Why is my read/ reading/ want to read list gone?
・EVERYONE'S lists disappeared after MGGO crashed JAN 26 likely due to traffic
・The developers were recovering lists, but the disk containing list data crashed + data was lost.
ㅤ‣ Proof http://www.mangago.me/home/mangatopic/21155166
ㅤ‣ Photo Proof http://www.mangago.me/home/photo/50674750
・They can only recover stuff to your lists via rated/tagged receipts after ~Feb 4
ㅤ‣ Before Feb 4, you may have gotten unrated/untagged works back.
・This data loss is likely why the site recovery is taking longer than usual.
Still don't understand? http://www.mangago.me/home/mangatopic/21091022/ (ty seabi)

In regard to the site future: http://www.mangago.me/home/mangatopic/21014248/
・The situation with THAT SITE is scary, but I believe this site will stay up as it always has.
・Just remember, this site isn't legal anyways, so it’s a good idea to back stuff up!

=~=~+~=~= EDITING LISTS =~=~+~=~=
Q: Can I edit my lists? (Yes? but…)
・Yes, but be careful please and make a back-up off-site. I have seen users have issues
・You may have issues, you may not. But I wouldn’t say everyone is 100% safe
・A common issue is stuff disappearing after you added it, so follow the advice below.
・If you’re recovering your lists, I have suggestions in [OTHER QUESTIONS]
・Devs may still be recovering stuff. If you re-add something it overwrites the original date.

When editing/ adding stuff please:
ㅤ‣ After adding an entry, go to that list to check it is there.
ㅤ‣ If not, refresh after ~10 seconds. If still not there, add it again.
ㅤ‣ Update your off-site backup whenever you change something.
ㅤ‣ If it still gets deleted after you confirmed it was in your lists, DM me.

List of issues I’ve seen here: http://www.mangago.me/home/mangatopic/21451186/

EXPORT: User Gurl (www.mangago.me/home/people/3402357) has created a way to export your lists
https://docs.google.com/document/d/14Drj0CviUhrAmZlU-DC-AtxGFQoH1_PYQ81b2Vzu82w/

=~=~+~=~= MORE ON LISTS =~=~+~=~=
Q: But I heard we were getting everything back? (OUTDATED)
・After list data was lost, it was confirmed we're not getting EVERYTHING back ANYMORE.
・They managed to recover up to early 2022 before the disk crash last I heard.

Q: Why is everything in ‘Already read’ + Why is deleted stuff back?
・Everything was seemingly being added to 'already read' before list data was lost.
・SPECULATIVE: Unrated but tagged: goes to “Want to read.” If both: goes to “Already Read”
・They are likely recovering stuff to your lists if it has ever been marked as being in there.
・A user had works recovered to their lists that have been deleted off the site.

=~=~+ COMMON ISSUES + SITE RECOVERY + NOTIFICATIONS? +~=~=
Q: I commented OR added something to my list/ custom list/ album why is it not showing up?
・The database + what you're seeing aren't synced due to the site recovery. (Suujin's FAQ)
・You might need to wait ~20 seconds then refresh to see if it's updated.
・If it's not there, try again + refresh again. Sometimes it just won't go through at all.
・Sometimes, the entry just won’t go through. (CAN HAPPEN TO LISTS)

Q: Why am I constantly getting logged out?
・This seems to be a mobile-only issue. Maybe read on PC for no interruptions.
・Something about the login session not being tracked properly. (see Suujin's FAQ)

Q: Are they still recovering my lists? (Maybe)
・As long as the works were rated or tagged. With no announcement, it's safe to assume it's ongoing.
・Even if list recovery is over, the site recovery is still ongoing
・Why I think so: a few users have books added years ago in between recent entries. Likely recovered.
・A user had a 2011 entry in between Mar 6/26 entries. They think it might’ve been recovered.
・If you *know* you tagged/rated stuff and it’s not back yet, you may just need to wait.
・If they aren’t back AFTER they announce everything’s ok, maybe send them an email.

Q: What about my notifications?
・Stuff is not in your lists (notifications only come from 'reading' and 'already read')
・The notification system is just not working properly. (Seems so after Mar 9 issues)
・You aren't subscribed to the title.

・You might not get notifications sometimes, so I suggest:
ㅤ‣ Checking your history and looking for the "have new update after your last reading"
ㅤ‣ Remembering the update schedule of your favourite works/ check them weekly.

=~=~+~=~= OTHER QUESTIONS =~=~+~=~=
Q: What can I do to recover my lost titles (MANUAL)
・Go through your comments/ on-site history/ lists, etc.
・Check your browser history. Most browsers only save up to ~3 months of history.
・Go through lists with tags you're interested in (www.mangago.me/listtag/)
・Ask for some stuff in the questions section! Some people have lists they'd like to share or remember titles you've forgotten.

Q: What about the comments section + my personalised comments?
・There is no information on when/if this is coming back. They might not.

Q: Can I email someone? (TLDR: DO NOT!!!!) + Uploading new manga
・I suggest not. The developers are very busy and haven't been responding since mid Feb.
・It's expected as they're a small team and this is a big site.

Due to this, uploading new manga is seemingly on hold, but here is a guide anyways
http://www.mangago.me/home/mangatopic/1077438/ (Method is in page 7 of the comments)
You might need to email them again after they announce they’ve stopped working on stuff.

=~=~+~=~= REMINDERS =~=~+~=~=
・We do not know what state the devs are at with site + lists recovery, especially after the disk crash
・There is no confirmation if recovery is over
・There is no timeline as to when stuff will be fixed
・The site is still unstable - you may come across issues.
・I am not a developer/ insider - I can't fully confirm/ deny things

=~=~+~=~= DISCLAIMER =~=~+~=~=
I’ve seen people saying… things about me so I made this disclaimer.
This FAQ is created based on user’s experiences + theories from users with backgrounds in IT. I’m trying to make sense of stuff based on what little information we have and hopefully provide answers to confused users. I never said my words were strictly the truth. I always say 'maybe’.
I can't confirm nor deny if lists are safe to edit. I’m not a developer. It’s been a month without major issues, so I’ve changed my opinion. But based on recent user experiences, I still advise people to be careful

=~=~+~=~= THANK YOU + QUESTIONS FOR ME =~=~+~=~=
I'll be editing this to include answers to more questions I've seen + any new info.
After an edit, comments get wiped until someone comments again.

Also thank you to everyone sharing this link + other's links! ヾ(❀╹◡╹)ﾉ~
If anyone has any other information they'd like me to include + want to share, DM me!
If you think something isn't explained well/ I need to re-write for clarity + you have something you want me to add, DM me through the site.

IF YOU DON’T HAVE A QUESTION, DON’T REPLY TO THE THREAD!!!

=~=~+~=~= RECENT UPDATE =~=~+~=~=
MARCH 10: I’ve made major edits here. If you can’t understand it anymore, please let me know

Please don’t get mad at me for changing my opinion on editing lists. I’ve been thinking of changing my advice since the end of February, especially as some people have been okay. But as others faced issues, I was torn. I was also scared to change it because I would possibly face backlash, and it went against someone’s advice. I’m sorry. You’re allowed to be upset with me, just don’t attack me please.
This situation has overwhelmed me. I might take a few days off from the site, so if you need to contact me, please DM me.

Someone emailed the devs and apparently got a response saying it was okay to edit lists. This was a while ago. I don’t know how I missed that information. I'm sorry. I still advise you to be careful though, due to the issues I’ve seen.

MARCH 22: Yea, I've been really happy lately now that I'm not dealing with this, so I'm going to completely stop keeping track of the situation. Ts genuinely ruined my mental, even though it wasn't that serious (〜￣△￣)〜

If you're here for the FAQs about missing list and random log outs read here: https://www.mangago.me/home/mangatopic/21080691/

Now on to the current issue. I'm posting this here because a lot of yall are concerned. I’m not saying closing down sites is not possible. It’s just not as easy as people think.

MGo has gotten into trouble with authors before. Many times now actually. The worst case was when the author themself created an account here and threatened to take legal action against jjcat (the uploader of said author's manhwa), other uploaders, the readers, and the site itself. They even got other authors involved.

In the end though nothing really major happened beyond the comments being disabled. MGo's comment section eventually came back and jjcat continues to upload--many many other works at that

ETA FOR MORE CONTEXT
Back then things spiraled fast and got way too much attention. Users were panicking and posting all over MGo similar to what is happening now but much worse. Comment sections were flooded people were mass reporting and messaging the site and everything got chaotic especially with a legal threat happening publicly.

Disabling comments helped calm things down on MGo’s side but it did not actually solve the problem. The people involved just took it elsewhere (twttr). Lzhn and wbtn also ended up being pulled into it too (bc the author's work was serialized on lzhn). Its been nearly 5 years now, and MGo is still running and the uploader involved was never taken to court

TL;DR
i know it CAN play a role, but just getting exposure is not enough to close a site. Mgo has faced several disputes, even lzhn and wbtn somehow got involved, but the site is still running and jjcat was never held accountable.

guys, is it safe to start adding mangas to our lists again to rebuild the lost ones? i remember reading somewhere to wait for when the devs finish all points of the site recovery or smth like that right after the crash happened, cause they were only on point 2 out of 5 for the complete site maintenance. i know the unrated/untagged titles won't come back (it was said there in the post), but op of the dev mail post said to wait until they finish it all up so the disc doesn't crash again when we start adding them all up anew. anyone have any info on this?

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