i do love tsundere men but i usually read them where it’s a yaoi and the uke is tsundere. this isn’t doing it for me in my opinion. the ml is
annoying and is just a dick in my opinion. i get he doesn’t really know how to show emotions in something but he could try?? they’re dating now and that’s great but if this was a bit more realistic the girl would have given up when she saw how nasty the ml was. she (the mc) is pretty annoying too. i get shes funny and very determined- but it’s coming off as desperate and there are other men who won’t treat you shitty like the ml. maybe i’m being to harsh and treating this too realistically but this is my opinion. curious to see if anyone agrees or disagrees! ╥﹏╥
well, I kind of disagree with you (• ▽ •;) it's true that the ml is pretty annoying, BUT that doesn't mean he's not trying. Little by little, he's changing for the fl because he knows how she feels about him, and he himself has values that he wants to uphold. For the fl, she IS coming off as desperate, but she is aware of it. (I think she's made it clear in a chapter, although I can't remember which. ) She knows that her behavior is embarrassing lol, that's why she is trying to match ml's tempo, iygwim. They're just both new to love¯_ʘ‿ʘ_/¯
You are treating it harshly, but realistically, you're right too.
You have some reasonable points, but from what I can understand from the whole manga (as of now), the main characters are willing to change/improve for their partners, which is also smth we see irl.
yeah you’re right and that’s a good way to like at it! there’s definitely been character development and i’m not gonna drop this because i want to see more of them. they are pretty cute but just for me i could neverrr be with or stand to see a man like that. but again it’s a manga so i don’t need to worry about that (〜 ̄△ ̄)〜
i read a lotttt of ts and honestly this was a lot for me. maybe if it was a few chapters or a one shot j of the gangbang purely for smut no plot, but there is a plot. and a decent one. with a good uke, who is haunted by his past. aside from this he is repeatedly abused and raped by not only other characters but the fucked up seme himself. the only good thing about the seme is his looks. i didn’t finish this and only got a bit more than halfway through, but there is no love in this so if you’re looking for a fucked up thing to read go ahead but this is not for the light hearted. even though it is a mafia / mob story, there is so many other better things to read w that plot with actual love and a good seme. j a warning before u read.
the uke in the second/side couple which is the ex of the uke in the main couple (kinda confusing) is a horrible person. he is entitled, annoying, mean, a bully, and isn’t deserving of love from the delivery guy or anyone tbh. what he deserves is a humbling and needs to be put in his place. i don’t usually mind side couples/second stories but the uke just really does it for me in this one. might drop Σ(っ°Д °;)っ
come on sovie it can’t be that good. uke can’t really resist any dick but zerkins must be magical. also he’s gotta have all the stds by now. literally got raped and fucked by everyone in the train. (where’s the women btw?) and also forget why all this happened in the first place. ZERKIN! but never mind that obviously his dick is tooo good since the uke literally can’t resist. (づ ̄ ³ ̄)づ
it’s been a while since i read this story. definitely years. but i’ve come back to it today after seeing a picture of it in my camera roll and deciding to reread the letter from Wenxu Jiang at the end. i know a lot of people don’t care and dislike the letter but i thinks it’s such a fitting extra chapter and makes me bawl my eyes out everytime. from the denial that Zhishu isn’t really dead to the traveling without him and missing him. its sooo beautifully written. the whole story is just beautiful. it shows the reality of a broken relationship with a man who takes the other for granted and a man who just won’t let go. up until the end that Zhishu still didn’t want to let Jiang go. the reality of a fatal disease. the reality of grief and death. the doctor and zhishu both finding each other and their love becoming while zhishu is dying. it’s just perfect. my favorite flowers are jasmines because of this story, and whenever someone asks me why i am reminded of this story. i am greatful everyday that i read this story because past all the anger, frustration, tears and angst this story brings- it is a masterpiece that i could never forget.
i think the art style is great and the characters are pretty but the uke has no respect for himself and the seme is a hypocritical jerk. calling the uke a slut and using him as a toy, and the uke literally taking it just because of the “unrequited love” which is pretty messed up in the first place. i’ve read wayyyy worse and messed up things than this, but they have an actual plot with decent characters with good character development. this, is just eh to me. (⊙…⊙ )
mangas like this are why i stick to yaoi only. i know there are some mangas that are good and cater to women but this is not one of them. it clearly is just fan service. all the girls have big asses and GIANT tits and of course small waists and flat stomachs. not to mention they look like they don’t wear any underwear with the clothes?? i barely got through a chapter because i wanted to see what the manga was like and i wasn’t suprised. how could anyone (especially a woman) even enjoy this. the smut is unbearable too, this has to be written by a 40yr old virgin somewhere (〜 ̄△ ̄)〜
So true its very catered to men
Ikr yaoi is much better
well I do enjoy this manhwa but like you said all the woman have basically to big of things but I mean so does yaoi yaoi most of the time has small bottoms big tops and some how the tops always have huge dicks abs and their tall and masculine, but I mean all manhwa and manga is this way that's why it's points out that it's not real(づ ̄ ³ ̄)づ
yupp ofc none of it is real so it doesn’t have to be realistic. i never really thought of that in yaoi. it’s a good point! but definitely there’s less realistic mangas like this and the parts are way more exaggerated in the women than the men in yaoi.
And i hate the fact that the author thinks we have a swimming pool in the v@gina. Like, if you have that level of wetness go see a doctor.
Most authors dont even know how bodies work.
Girl- a big part of yaoi and this kind of smut is literally the same situation in different fonts. In yaoi the target audience is obviously straight woman and most of the time it is also written by one. While I agree that usually they have a better plot, the smut part is literally the same let’s be fr
Yea that why I stick to yaoi too(⊙…⊙ )
Exactly like why are they so weird it basically the same and let not get started on the male leads in BLs
Plsss the baguette dicks, shredded to death body and that edward cullen personality
there are tons of yaois with realistic smut and body types, mostly the ones in manga form and not the colored pictures.
You can say the same about heterosexual focused mangas
Lol so true, just made it as mxm but it’s basically the same just catered to straight women. At the end of the it’s all smut.
Literally!
like i’m with you but the same can be said for any yaoi. i mean the d*cas spurting absolute fountains, the penetration anytime of the day anywhere without any prep. (that shit needs to be cleaned LOL nevermind properly prepped.) and a lot of times the ass’s seem to be weirdly wet?? like they’re water fountains when there’s hardly any mention of lube. idk just wanted to point out that both genres are very capable of having unrealistic se* scenes
Yeah, I really want to read straight smut with good interesting plot and charaters.
These are not "Mangas", but manhwas (South Korea). People call them pornwhas.
There is the straight smut for females, Josei, that is usually made by female authors which audience is also women. The art is very shojo, pretty normal body size.
Then the straight hentai, produced by men targeting the male audience.
In these latters, there's usually no plot and the hentai is often a harem, means guy mc fucks every walking girls. Girls are like you describe.
It seems that in SK there's not much of Josei for girls and most of what you call straight smut with such explicit covers are in fact straight hentais targeting the male audience.