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Twinpowerhm December 29, 2014 2:40 am

Hey everyone! How many of you like Yuri? I think it's awesome and cute if written/drawn correctly. Reply with your favorite Yuri mangas and Like if you appreciate Yuri.

Twinpowerhm October 10, 2014 9:10 pm

Please recommend me some Yuri/ shojo ai. I want one that's realistic in the relationship and funny. School life would be cool!

Twinpowerhm October 10, 2014 4:32 pm

Hey guys! So I may or may not be bisexual. Can someone tell me how they figured it out/their experiences with bisexuality?

    lime October 10, 2014 5:53 pm

    I'm not bi so I don't know if this would help you or not, but I thought I was bi back in middle school. I've always been pretty loose about relationships and attraction towards people, so whenever someone would come on to me I'd go with it no matter what gender they were. Because the people were just males and females then, I assumed I was bi, but then I didn't have any sort of aversion to cross dressers to transsexuals/transgenders where my friends and classmates did. I had one friend who thought they were bi at the time and we'd have arguments about what constituted being bi or not, so we started researching a bunch of opinions, definitions, articles, and etc., and I found that pansexuality sounded more like what I felt. My friend figured out she was actually demisexual and not bi.

    The only time people have bothered me or given me a hard time about being pan is when a girl I dated before came up to me saying "So I heard you're pan now" and promptly asked "So how do you know for sure? Who have you kissed?" meaning she thought in order to figure out a sexual orientation, you'd have to have had previous relations with each gender of person, which I think is bull.

    In case you need definitions...:
    pansexuals are attracted to or are okay with any gender or identity, male, female, gender-fluid, intersex, hermaphrodite, agender, etc.
    demisexuality is where you develop a sexual attraction to the person only after you've become romantically or emotionally attached to them

    Twinpowerhm October 10, 2014 6:10 pm
    I'm not bi so I don't know if this would help you or not, but I thought I was bi back in middle school. I've always been pretty loose about relationships and attraction towards people, so whenever someone would... lime

    Thank you! I really appreciate that. I think I'm more bisexual than pansexual or demisexual. I prefer guys, but I think I'm a bit attracted to girls as well. Like I wouldn't mind having a relationship with a girl. I don't know. Sometimes I'm attracted and sometimes I'm not? I get pretty confused.

    lime October 10, 2014 6:15 pm
    Thank you! I really appreciate that. I think I'm more bisexual than pansexual or demisexual. I prefer guys, but I think I'm a bit attracted to girls as well. Like I wouldn't mind having a relationship with a gi... Twinpowerhm

    It's okay to be confused about it, I still get confused and I've considered myself to be pan for over 5 years. Like sometimes I think "maybe I'm just gay with a bunch of exceptions towards people" because I prefer people with penises.
    If you are bi, it doesn't mean you have to have an equal attraction to both genders. You could simply have a larger preference for guys while still liking girls.

    Twinpowerhm October 10, 2014 6:19 pm
    It's okay to be confused about it, I still get confused and I've considered myself to be pan for over 5 years. Like sometimes I think "maybe I'm just gay with a bunch of exceptions towards people" because I pre... lime

    Ohhh. I've never thought of it like that. Aren't people supposed to know their overall sexual orientation/natural inclinations at a young age? I've only started thinking about this, and I'm already 17... and I've never really had crushes on girls. Hmmm.

    Tavi October 10, 2014 6:21 pm

    For me being bisexual was pretty easy to establish, I had sexual attraction to both men and women. As simple as that, I had different types I liked and sometimes I like more boys than girls and or other days more girls than boys. But either way I'm still sexual attracted to both. Hence bi!

    Demisexual is actually even easier to establish in my opinion it means that you don't feel sexual attraction to someone at all until you've formed a deep emotional bond with them. Which basically means you're not going to go into a bar and think omg he/she is hot I'm so going home with them tonight. :) It's more like I like you, I want to get to know you, I want to be your best friend and at that point your body kind of says, now I have a sexual attraction to you.

    Pansexual is a lot like bisexuality for me. It simply means that gender doesn't matter at all to you so you also feel sexual attraction to those who fall into the roles of intersex or outside of gender binaries. So basically you lust for someone and it doesn't matter to you if they're male/female or you can't tell what they are. You just feel sexual attraction to them.

    Hope that helps a bit, if you want always feel free to ask more. I've been Bi and Aromantic and out for nearly 20 years now so I can help with some questions you might have! :)

    Tavi October 10, 2014 6:27 pm
    Ohhh. I've never thought of it like that. Aren't people supposed to know their overall sexual orientation/natural inclinations at a young age? I've only started thinking about this, and I'm already 17... and I'... Twinpowerhm

    Oh heck no it's completely normal to be confused about your sexuality well into your adult years. Don't fret about that. Especially since until quite recently your only options were gay and straight. And not everyone fell into those categories so you found yourself very confused. Add in the fact that there are romantic orientations as well that can mess you up even more, all the more confusing!

    In the BI community we always have a saying, if you think you're BI, then you are. You don't have to prove your sexual orientation to belong. If you think you're Pan you are, same with Demi. No one is going to make you pass a test, the name is simply a label that will hopefully help you answer some questions about your inclinations when you get confused.

    lime October 10, 2014 6:28 pm
    Ohhh. I've never thought of it like that. Aren't people supposed to know their overall sexual orientation/natural inclinations at a young age? I've only started thinking about this, and I'm already 17... and I'... Twinpowerhm

    Technically 17 is still pretty young and it doesn't actually matter what age you start wondering about it I think. I learned about sex and sexuality at an especially young age because I would read my aunt's medical dictionaries and stumble upon things you wouldn't generally learn about at that age (for example I learned about AIDS when I was 7)
    A lot of people start questioning around 15-20 and there's always stories of people experimenting during these years because they're just starting to figure things out

    Twinpowerhm October 10, 2014 6:29 pm
    For me being bisexual was pretty easy to establish, I had sexual attraction to both men and women. As simple as that, I had different types I liked and sometimes I like more boys than girls and or other days mo... Tavi

    Thank you so much! I'll definitely keep you in mind. I don't think I have an equal sexual attraction to males and females. I prefer guys, and I think I've got a sexual attraction to females as well, but I'm not sure? I've never actually crushed on girls before so I really don't know. I kind of want to gain more experience with both genders, just to kind of figure things out I guess.

    Twinpowerhm October 10, 2014 6:33 pm
    Technically 17 is still pretty young and it doesn't actually matter what age you start wondering about it I think. I learned about sex and sexuality at an especially young age because I would read my aunt's med... lime

    Oh! Ok. That makes me feel a lot better. The first time I heard about bisexuality, I kind of thought, "Well, I could be...??". But I know people that are so sure that their bisexual and then I'm like, "Maybe not". I guess I just need experience with both genders.

    Twinpowerhm October 10, 2014 6:36 pm
    Oh heck no it's completely normal to be confused about your sexuality well into your adult years. Don't fret about that. Especially since until quite recently your only options were gay and straight. And not ev... Tavi

    Haha. Thanks! I needed that. Puts things in perspective more. I really like that saying. But what are romantic orientations? As you can see, I'm pretty new to this.

    Tavi October 10, 2014 6:37 pm

    I didn't really crush on girls when I was growing up, but then I'm aromantic so I didn't really crush on anyone. lol I did have certain types that I was like Oh I'd so sleep with that guy. And I didn't really have that with girls until I was older. I met my first sexual female partner when I was in college. Typical eh? Lots of experimenting happens in those college dorms. It was at that point where I realized that boy or girl it didn't matter to me. So I was like Bi! Okies! Time to find the next person to play with! Hehe

    Twinpowerhm October 10, 2014 6:42 pm

    @Tavi, is it difficult to be openly bi? Like do you get stigmas or something? I've asked my parent's what they think of bisexuality, and they think that bi's should just "choose" a gender. They're honestly more uncomfortable with the idea of bisexuality rather than being gay.

    Tavi October 10, 2014 6:46 pm

    Ah romantic orientations - so like for me I am Aromantic, I don't feel romantic feelings towards anyone. So things like dating, falling in the love, getting married stuff like that doesn't make sense to me at all. I do have deep platonic feelings for my friends and would do anything for them, but I simply don't feel romantic feelings.

    Romantic is considered the 'norm', you fall in love with people, you date them, want to spend time with them. want romantic affection back from them.

    Demiromantic - you only feel romantic feelings after already establishing a deep platonic relationship with someone.

    So it's honestly a lot like the same ones you know for sexuality, just instead of sexual attraction it's about romantic feelings.

    For me I'm Bisexual so I feel sexual attraction/lust for both genders, but I don't want to date them or marry them or even feel like I love them. It's at the core just a physical relationship.

    lime October 10, 2014 6:46 pm
    Haha. Thanks! I needed that. Puts things in perspective more. I really like that saying. But what are romantic orientations? As you can see, I'm pretty new to this. Twinpowerhm

    Romantic orientations are separate from sexual orientations.
    put it simply I guess: romantic attraction vs sexual attraction is sort of like who you want to marry vs who you want to bang
    A lot of the time your romantic orientation will be similar to your sexual orientation, but that's not always the case. You could like males and females sexually but only be attracted to one romantically. Or not be attracted to anyone sexually but still be attracted to people romantically. In Tavi's case, they're bi and aromantic, meaning they like males and females but don't feel any sort of romantic attraction towards them.
    A lot of people bash on aros because it seems weird to most non-aro people that someone doesn't or can't feel romantic attraction. Someone who feels romantic attraction is called alloromantic I think

    Tavi October 10, 2014 6:53 pm
    @Tavi, is it difficult to be openly bi? Like do you get stigmas or something? I've asked my parent's what they think of bisexuality, and they think that bi's should just "choose" a gender. They're honestly more... Twinpowerhm

    It can be difficult to be openly bi, but no in the same way it is for homosexuals to be openly gay. The hardest part is the one you said right there, where people think you should just choose one gender, or if you do end up finding love that you've stopped being bi and now you're straight or gay because you've picked one. That's hard, it's not like you stop being bi because you end up with one person.

    I have a problem mostly with the fact that bi-erasure is a huge thing. Even if a celebrity comes out as Bi, within minutes the media and fans will have them out as gay. If you're reading literature, characters are never bi, even when they've already shown they like both sexes. They've suddenly become gay! Yaoi's huge on this...I'm only gay for you! Or I'm straight, I just want to sleep with you. Hmm or you know you could be Bi or Demi-sexual. Yes these are things too you can use them as words and put them in your stories! lol

    My family had a harder time with me being Aromantic than me being Bi in all honestly. The idea that I don't fall in love seems to bug them so much they drive me crazy with asking me every chance they get if I've fixed that part of myself. The fact I'm not broken doesn't seem to click in their heads. lol

    Twinpowerhm October 10, 2014 6:54 pm

    @lime and @Tavi, Thank you so much! I really feel like it's making more sense now. I think my romantic and sexual orientations are the same in that I'd like to have a relationship with either gender and not just physically.

    Tavi October 10, 2014 6:55 pm
    Romantic orientations are separate from sexual orientations. put it simply I guess: romantic attraction vs sexual attraction is sort of like who you want to marry vs who you want to bangA lot of the time your ... lime

    Rocking that answer lime! :) I honestly think that people who are Asexual and Aromantic have a harder time dealing with everyone else. Because they all seem to have this knowledge that even if they're straight or gay they're ok, but if you're not one of those you're weird, different, disturbing...painful some days to be the odd one out.

    Tavi October 10, 2014 6:57 pm
    @lime and @Tavi, Thank you so much! I really feel like it's making more sense now. I think my romantic and sexual orientations are the same in that I'd like to have a relationship with either gender and not jus... Twinpowerhm

    There you go and remember your sexuality can change! As you get older and you try things out or experience more life things may shift and change your view. Never be afraid to be fluid. You a person you're not stuck in a box and forced to grow up in a rigid position! Just like when you were a kid, you may have hated peas and now you're older and you're like why did I hate these stupid green veggies? lol

    Twinpowerhm October 10, 2014 6:59 pm
    It can be difficult to be openly bi, but no in the same way it is for homosexuals to be openly gay. The hardest part is the one you said right there, where people think you should just choose one gender, or if ... Tavi

    So since you're aromantic, you've never like "fallen in love" before? Bi-erasure, I never really thought about. But if I look back, it's totally true! I was watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer, and one of the characters said she had "turned gay" and was "gay now". I guess that's why it's been hard for me to know my sexual orientation. Sometimes, when the characters are like that, it's hard to connect with them you know? Not enough Bi representation.

    Twinpowerhm October 10, 2014 7:03 pm
    There you go and remember your sexuality can change! As you get older and you try things out or experience more life things may shift and change your view. Never be afraid to be fluid. You a person you're not s... Tavi

    Hahaha that's hilarious. Great comparison. I think people are always brought up to think that sexuality is like a box and can't be fluid, so I've had trouble with adjusting to the fact that my sexuality can/did change: "I thought I was straight, but I've changed to Bi?"

    Tavi October 10, 2014 7:07 pm
    So since you're aromantic, you've never like "fallen in love" before? Bi-erasure, I never really thought about. But if I look back, it's totally true! I was watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer, and one of the cha... Twinpowerhm

    Nope I've never fallen in love, in fact I have a hard time even understanding what love is. When I was growing up I dated a lot of guys and in my mind they were basically good friends that I liked sleeping with. In their minds we were in a loving relationship. I never understood that the way I was feeling was different from what they were feeling and in the end it caused a lot of problems and some harsh break ups. I've actually had three guys propose marriage to me and each time I was like what? I don't even really like you...marriage are you crazy? I will never get married. lol

    But yes Willow on Buffy is one of those big ones, everyone talked about how great Joss was about bringing in gay characters and making Willow gay. Even though in canon she was completely in love with Oz and Tara. Which basically screams she be BI! lol

    There is a great novel that came out recently, Aristotle and Dante Discover the Secrets of the Universe, which is about two young boys who become friends and learn to be more. And it's highly stated in the story over and over again how they are gay. Yet they also state how they both enjoy kissing girls and kissing boys. *face palm* Again if you like both, you're pretty much Bi. Not Gay! Why can't authors and writers and media just nicely use the term.

    Freddy Mercury, lead singer of Queen. Completely and openly BI. Known by everyone as Gay. *cries*

    Oh well it's getting better as time goes on and the internet starts to trump the erasure! lol

    lime October 10, 2014 7:10 pm
    Rocking that answer lime! :) I honestly think that people who are Asexual and Aromantic have a harder time dealing with everyone else. Because they all seem to have this knowledge that even if they're straight ... Tavi

    Ugh yeah even within the GLBT+ community people will be so harsh to them. But it's all just a matter of preference, same as being gay is, or pan, or bi, demi, hetero, etc. I don't get why people have such a hard time understanding things

    Twinpowerhm October 10, 2014 7:10 pm
    Nope I've never fallen in love, in fact I have a hard time even understanding what love is. When I was growing up I dated a lot of guys and in my mind they were basically good friends that I liked sleeping with... Tavi

    Wow! You've really opened my eyes. That's so weird that authors/media don't use the term "Bi". I had always though Freddy Mercury was "Gay" as well.

    Tavi October 10, 2014 7:11 pm
    Hahaha that's hilarious. Great comparison. I think people are always brought up to think that sexuality is like a box and can't be fluid, so I've had trouble with adjusting to the fact that my sexuality can/did... Twinpowerhm

    lol I use that one a lot, I do for people who are worried about their genders too. People are fluid, you do not have to fall into someones preferred categories. I am a girl and I love wearing guys clothes, that doesn't make me a trans. I'm not a girl who wants to be male, I just like guys designed clothes. Because honestly I find like 90% of female clothing lines are horrible sexualized. And that just ticks me off. I can't even buy a t-shirt if it's for girls because chances are it's practically see-through, is tight on my breasts, has an exposed breast line and cuts my underarms up to expose as much of my chest as it can. Then I put on a guys tshirt and it's think and fluffy and warm and loose and makes me feel comforted.

    Oops went off topic there. lolol

    Twinpowerhm October 10, 2014 7:15 pm
    lol I use that one a lot, I do for people who are worried about their genders too. People are fluid, you do not have to fall into someones preferred categories. I am a girl and I love wearing guys clothes, tha... Tavi

    I totally agree! Female clothing is always tight and the sizes are always too small as well. I mean, what even is a "Size Zero"?. But it exists. Categories are overrated.

    Tavi October 10, 2014 7:16 pm
    Wow! You've really opened my eyes. That's so weird that authors/media don't use the term "Bi". I had always though Freddy Mercury was "Gay" as well. Twinpowerhm

    More and more celebrities are coming out as Bi, but I bet you I can name some and you'll be shocked because the media portrays them as straight or gay. hehe One of my favorite games is to contact the authors and be like, why exactly did you run away from using the term bi? Or demi-sexual? or pan sexual? Rarely do the answers not make me very sad assuming the author responds at all. Twitter and Tumblr makes it much easier to get people educated at least. lol

    Twinpowerhm October 10, 2014 7:18 pm
    More and more celebrities are coming out as Bi, but I bet you I can name some and you'll be shocked because the media portrays them as straight or gay. hehe One of my favorite games is to contact the authors an... Tavi

    You're probably right. I mean I just recently found out Angelina Jolie and Megan Fox are Bi, I think. What do the authors say in response???

    Tavi October 10, 2014 7:18 pm
    I totally agree! Female clothing is always tight and the sizes are always too small as well. I mean, what even is a "Size Zero"?. But it exists. Categories are overrated. Twinpowerhm

    Exactly! I always say don't think that labels are strapped to you with permanent ink. It's more like writing a note to yourself with a magic marker. Today I feel I am this, tomorrow that could change. Or I could take a shower and it could get all blurry. I might rewrite it again after that, or I might write something else! Because I can!

    Twinpowerhm October 10, 2014 7:20 pm
    Exactly! I always say don't think that labels are strapped to you with permanent ink. It's more like writing a note to yourself with a magic marker. Today I feel I am this, tomorrow that could change. Or I coul... Tavi

    Woah! That was a really easy explanation. I really liked that.

    Tavi October 10, 2014 7:22 pm
    You're probably right. I mean I just recently found out Angelina Jolie and Megan Fox are Bi, I think. What do the authors say in response??? Twinpowerhm

    I've received answer from some authors telling me that their characters are gay that they were never any indications of bisexuality. I've received messages stating they felt like gay was more relatable. *cries inside a bit* I've received messages stating if I didn't like how it was written I didn't have to read it. I've received messages stating that once you fall in love with someone you're no longer bisexual you've chosen. *face palm* It can be very difficult sometimes to not want to punch people in the face for adding to bi-erasure just through their actions to try to bring about awareness for others. In some occasions I do get get authors who are like, I didn't even realize I had written something that showed they might be bi. Which I can get,I can sit there and be like ok! I understand now why you didn't use the term. In your mind they were never going to be bi so you didn't see any of the stuff you were writing that makes my bisexual mind go, oh they're like me!

    Twinpowerhm October 10, 2014 7:25 pm
    I've received answer from some authors telling me that their characters are gay that they were never any indications of bisexuality. I've received messages stating they felt like gay was more relatable. *cries ... Tavi

    Harsh. Do you know any characters (especially in TV shows), where they're proclaimed Bi and are not oversexualized? I never see any really.

    Tavi October 10, 2014 7:27 pm

    Oh I was going to mention one other thing mostly because of someone reading this and might be aromantic. Just because I do not feel romantic love does not mean I don't like romantic love in terms of stories and manga. In fact reading things like yaois with love relationship and shoujo and such are some of my favorite things. I enjoy reading stories where people fall in love and grow into relationships, even though I myself do not share those same emotions. I can still appreciate them.

    I also really appreciate stories where the main theme is friendship and love relationships don't have to magically appear and make everything better and change their way of thinking. lol My favorite saying, Platonic Love is not Less than Romantic Love.

    Tavi October 10, 2014 7:34 pm
    Harsh. Do you know any characters (especially in TV shows), where they're proclaimed Bi and are not oversexualized? I never see any really. Twinpowerhm

    Honestly its very difficult to find bi-characters on TV shows...and sadly some that you do find you have to use the, I call them bi because the show has shown them that way. Even though the show calls them Gay.

    Oddly enough one of my favorite characters who isn't exactly bi but more what I call Omni-sexual is Jack Harkness from Doctor Who and Torchwood. A man who never found another that he didn't find beautiful and want to flirt with! Same series Torchwood introduces Ianto Jones who is an openly Bi character.

    I'm told Orange is the New Black has a couple of openly Bi characters, but I haven't watched the series so I'm not sure how good the representation is.

    Oh one of my favorites, Prince Oberyn in Game of Thrones is a very openly Bi character that is perfectly portrayed in both sexual and gender roles.

    Twinpowerhm October 10, 2014 7:41 pm
    Honestly its very difficult to find bi-characters on TV shows...and sadly some that you do find you have to use the, I call them bi because the show has shown them that way. Even though the show calls them Gay.... Tavi

    Great! I've heard of them and watched some of Orange is the New Black. I really like it. It has some great themes and quotes.

    MOI? October 10, 2014 7:48 pm

    interesting... *__* @Tavi, we're a lot alike -not on the sexual preference level -i like men, although i can't keep one for too long. the only contact info i'll ever share is my cell#, when i see things getting a lil' serious, i just stop seeing them and let myself disappear in the background (never choose people from the same city where i live). the thing i can't put finger on is 'love' -in my opinion is just an ephemeral state of mind. that's it. the only vantage point i have is objective... even my mom thinks she might have dropped me when i was a baby or something LOL

    amcreeper October 10, 2014 7:48 pm
    It can be difficult to be openly bi, but no in the same way it is for homosexuals to be openly gay. The hardest part is the one you said right there, where people think you should just choose one gender, or if ... Tavi

    To the part about not falling in love, I have to say I am the same. And face the same problem With friends and Family. My parents just keeps saying " Just wait until you meet the right one", but I have never had any romantic feelings towards someone. It can be hard when you might feel they don't take you seriously, but all in all, as long as you're happy the way you are, don't think too much about what People might say..
    Also, Yeah I happen to be Bi as well. Have not "come out" to my Family yet, as People would tease me about being gay because i didn't have any relationships when I was younger. Don't really like the wording "come out" because I never really was "in", just People who assumed...
    A lot of the questions and answers are really a help to actually Paint a Picture of how I am. Never really considered Aromantic before as something that refered to others, not just me.
    Thank you, both you! :D

    amcreeper October 10, 2014 7:51 pm
    It can be difficult to be openly bi, but no in the same way it is for homosexuals to be openly gay. The hardest part is the one you said right there, where people think you should just choose one gender, or if ... Tavi

    To the part about not falling in love, I have to say I am the same. And face the same problem With friends and Family. My parents just keeps saying " Just wait until you meet the right one", but I have never had any romantic feelings towards someone. It can be hard when you might feel they don't take you seriously, but all in all, as long as you're happy the way you are, don't think too much about what People might say..
    Also, Yeah I happen to be Bi as well. Have not "come out" to my Family yet, as People would tease me about being gay because i didn't have any relationships when I was younger. Don't really like the wording "come out" because I never really was "in", just People who assumed...
    A lot of the questions and answers are really a help to actually Paint a Picture of how I am. Never really considered Aromantic before as something that refered to others, not just me.
    Thank you, both you! :D

    Tavi October 10, 2014 7:54 pm
    interesting... *__* @Tavi, we're a lot alike -not on the sexual preference level -i like men, although i can't keep one for too long. the only contact info i'll ever share is my cell#, when i see things getting... @MOI?

    lol Always a pleasure to meet like minded people! And yes sadly I've gotten that same, "what did I do to you when you were younger that means you can't love" speech from my mom. I just have to sit there sometimes and be like You know I can love right. Platonic Love! It makes me care about people in amazing ways to the point where I can easily kill or die for them. I just don't think I have to have romance in the mix. But oh man we definitely are close on your relationships too...I've more than once 'disappeared' to end a relationship when the other part started getting serious even after knowing I wasn't. I once moved five states away when the guy I was dating started referring to everything, as "well once we're married." Eeeps! *flees into the night*

    Tavi October 10, 2014 7:58 pm
    To the part about not falling in love, I have to say I am the same. And face the same problem With friends and Family. My parents just keeps saying " Just wait until you meet the right one", but I have never ha... amcreeper

    I'm glad that you were able to learn some stuff from our chatting! And it's nice to know you're not alone when it comes to not falling in love isn't it? For the longest time I honestly believed that there was something wrong with me that I didn't fall in love like I was supposed too. And oh yes that familiar phrase, it'll all make sense once you find the one! *shakes head* I don't need to find a one actually, I'm perfectly happy with my life as it is. I have friends who are close and a key part of my life, I have lovers when I want them. I have friends who are lovers. None of this makes my life any less than someone who wants to date someone exclusive and live together and get married. It makes me different, but different is not bad!

    I didn't quite come out to my family, I was talking about going out to have sex later that night in a chummy chat with my sister and she was like do I know the guy and I was like well it's Sarah from my chem course. And she was like...Oh...Oooooh....lol

    Twinpowerhm October 10, 2014 8:02 pm
    I'm glad that you were able to learn some stuff from our chatting! And it's nice to know you're not alone when it comes to not falling in love isn't it? For the longest time I honestly believed that there was s... Tavi

    Hahaha that's probably how I would be with my family. And I'm Glad our conversation has helped others as well!!! I think talking about it is very important rather than keeping it bottled.

    Tavi October 10, 2014 8:09 pm
    Hahaha that's probably how I would be with my family. And I'm Glad our conversation has helped others as well!!! I think talking about it is very important rather than keeping it bottled. Twinpowerhm

    That's one thing I love about the internet, it's amazing how much better you can feel just about talking about stuff that makes you feel like you're so alone and knowing that there are people out there who actually feel the exact same way. Family and school can really mess up your mind when they try to keep you conformed into these set roles, when life is so not about set roles and is as vast as the ocean!

    Btw if anyone reading is interested, you can also find me on Tumblr, and there are some great bi and aromantic groups on there where you can chat too.
    On Tumblr I am http://manga-books-and-cake.tumblr.com/. Look me up if you're bored! hehe

    MOI? October 10, 2014 8:12 pm

    haha although i say i like men, just get me drunk and you can do anything to me, whatever you are (hopefully not an animal though -the least i'd like is to get done by a dog or something) LOL we were discussing this with my bro: would you get aroused with a man? the conclusion we reached: put a blindfold on, and whether man or woman, a human body will react to the touch of another. so yeah -given the circumstances :))

    Twinpowerhm October 10, 2014 8:17 pm
    haha although i say i like men, just get me drunk and you can do anything to me, whatever you are (hopefully not an animal though -the least i'd like is to get done by a dog or something) LOL we were discussing... @MOI?

    You know when you put it that way, I can totally see myself as Bisexual. If I had a blindfold on, I'd still be sexually attracted with the girl/guy consensually touching me.

    MOI? October 10, 2014 8:23 pm

    yup, yup! my point is: why do human beings are so keen on labels in order to alienate and separate individuals based on sexual preferences? pfft what now? a sexual hierarchy? i love you all! just like that :)) not on a romantic way -nooo don't, or i'll run away LOL

    Tavi October 10, 2014 8:48 pm

    lol Personally if you blindfold me you won't get me aroused at all through touch no matter who is doing the touching. What you get is me pissed off and very irritated? Blindfolds freak me out, consensual my voice says no. lol For me Bi means that I look at a beautiful woman and I think I want to sleep with her and make her feel amazing while I feel amazing. And I look at a beautiful man and I think I want to have sex with him and make him feel as amazing as I feel.

    I admit labels can be a very annoying thing, but in today's society they can also be a very welcoming thing. Do you know how pleased I was to know there was a term that I could apply to myself that I could give people to explain why I didn't fall in love? Do you know how freeing it is to not stand there in silence while they tell you that don't worry you'll be fine, you're normal, you'll find the one, and it's ok you'll understand one day. When in your mind no...I won't. I don't feel like you feel! And you want to scream it but there's no words that can make them understand. And then one day you learn there is a word and it's simple and it's a definition. And you can tell someone and if they're confused you can be like, here go on google. look it up. this is me! And I'm not alone!!

    Twinpowerhm October 10, 2014 8:52 pm

    That's wonderful =) Words and applying terms can be very important. I, personally, don't like not having a label that won't describe my sexuality. Having the word/label makes me feel more comfortable.

    Tavi October 10, 2014 8:55 pm
    That's wonderful =) Words and applying terms can be very important. I, personally, don't like not having a label that won't describe my sexuality. Having the word/label makes me feel more comfortable. Twinpowerhm

    See label's can be good just as long as you remember they're not set in stone and you may change as you experience more life. I find it much more difficult to deal with people who assign labels for life or believe that what someone said 10 years ago applies to who they are today. It's like really? The person I was 10 years ago is so far from who I am today I can't even imagine us talking to each other. lol

    MOI? October 10, 2014 8:56 pm

    good point, good point ( o_o)" **nod nod... BTW: "I want to sleep with her and make her feel amazing while I feel amazing"... '(*_* ) i'd really like to watch

    Twinpowerhm October 10, 2014 8:58 pm

    There's this article that I saw one day while looking at the New York Times magazine that, when I saw it, I was like. Wow. I think this is me. Check it out:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/23/magazine/the-scientific-quest-to-prove-bisexuality-exists.html?_r=0

    Tavi October 10, 2014 9:02 pm
    good point, good point ( o_o)" **nod nod... BTW: "I want to sleep with her and make her feel amazing while I feel amazing"... '(*_* ) i'd really like to watch @MOI?

    LoL Sorry voyeurism is not one of my kinks. Now threesomes can be fun...

    Twinpowerhm October 10, 2014 9:07 pm

    Have you guys ever had a threesome? Hmm. Seems like it would be difficult to manage?

    MOI? October 10, 2014 9:08 pm

    LOL at least i had to try :')) ah-hahahaha..ha ...wait, threesome?!

    Tavi October 10, 2014 9:09 pm
    There's this article that I saw one day while looking at the New York Times magazine that, when I saw it, I was like. Wow. I think this is me. Check it out:http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/23/magazine/the-scienti... Twinpowerhm

    That is an excellent article and definitely shows a lot of the problem and issues that bisexual people have to deal with. Some of those lines they used as examples I have literally heard from people I would considered extremely close friends. Painful painful stuff. But yes hope is out there and we grow strong as we press forward!

    Twinpowerhm October 10, 2014 9:12 pm
    Have you guys ever had a threesome? Hmm. Seems like it would be difficult to manage? Twinpowerhm

    Well, threesomes in general. I mean. Anyway, it is a good article!

    Tavi October 10, 2014 9:13 pm
    Have you guys ever had a threesome? Hmm. Seems like it would be difficult to manage? Twinpowerhm

    I actually am very fond of threesomes and sometimes more. There is a remarkable amount of pleasure that can be given and taken in the human body and you don't really realize it until you are in the situation. Too often sexual contact for most people is simply one on one. So you know you can kiss here, touch that and put your hands here, but that's all you can do just because of how your bodies are attached. But now you have another who can touch you in other places who you can touch in other places while being in full intercourse with another. And this can be mindblowing in terms of feelings and experiences. Now it is not for everyone, I don't think people who are seeking a relationship exclusive like between each other should really do a threesome. All it will really do is lead to some jealousy and anger. But for sexual pleasure it really is fantastic, especially if you have open willing partners who know that before you jump into bed and screw that you need to talk. You need to be able to be with someone who you can say I like it when this is done to me, I hate it when this happens. I've never tried this but I'm open to it. Or I've never tried this but it scares me. Communication is key!

    Twinpowerhm October 10, 2014 9:17 pm

    You do make a good point. I think I'd rather have just one partner. Having more than one could lead to, as you said, jealousy/anger, etc. Also, I'm a romantic, so finding someone I can truly cherish/get serious with and feel good with would be great! Obviously, everyone can have different objectives in relationships. =)

    Tavi October 10, 2014 9:26 pm
    You do make a good point. I think I'd rather have just one partner. Having more than one could lead to, as you said, jealousy/anger, etc. Also, I'm a romantic, so finding someone I can truly cherish/get serious... Twinpowerhm

    Yup yup! That's why communication is always good to focus on with any couple, way to often we seem to think that the person we're with is going to just know what we're thinking or know what we want. I mean even in terms of sex do you know there are literally 100's of positions and techniques and only a small portion of them will affect how you enjoy sex! How can you possibly expect your partner to just figure it out without talking to them about it. Even if the conversation is I've never done this before so I don't know what feels good, it gives you ideas and things that should and shouldn't do! I mean honestly it's bad enough that so many people have honestly no idea what the human body is about that not even bothering to talk to your partner messes with my head!

    I mean there are still people out there who think that virgin girls can't enjoy sex the first time and will bleed and it has to hurt. Or that a vagina if 'over-used' get loose! I mean really! So my vagina can literally expand to push out a baby but you think having sex is going to loosen up a group of muscles that are stronger than your abs! lol

    Twinpowerhm October 10, 2014 9:30 pm
    Yup yup! That's why communication is always good to focus on with any couple, way to often we seem to think that the person we're with is going to just know what we're thinking or know what we want. I mean even... Tavi

    Communication is always always necessary. And I'm a virgin, so I thought sex does hurt the first time and you do bleed sometimes because of the hymen (if you're having penetrated sex)?

    Tavi October 10, 2014 9:37 pm
    Communication is always always necessary. And I'm a virgin, so I thought sex does hurt the first time and you do bleed sometimes because of the hymen (if you're having penetrated sex)? Twinpowerhm

    Nope! Well ok technically no. If your partner is good and by good I mean a good lover not good at please themselves, then you will get to enjoy a great deal of foreplay. At which time your body will naturally be aroused and your will loosen up and you'll become receptive. The hymen when you are aroused is a very loose and fluid material and does not break during sex. It does not need to be torn or ripped through at all actually. When it hurts, when it's torn it's because you're not ready to have sex, you're body isn't aroused enough. And quite often if you participate in sports or horseback ride or bike ride at all you've probably already torn your hymen. It tears easily in those situations because your body is not aroused and your hips are being shifted around dramatically.

    So if you start to have sex with someone and it hurts tell them to stop, tell them you're not loose enough yet and that they need to do more foreplay before they can enter. If your partner isn't considerate enough to want you to feel good then honestly do you really want to give them yourself in the first place?

    By the way a point for guys out there, if your partner is very tight, then chances are you are not turning her on at all and she's faking it. When a woman is aroused the vagina naturally becomes loose and easily entered. It can expand up to 200%, so trust me having a penis inserted is not going stress out an aroused woman.

    Twinpowerhm October 10, 2014 9:42 pm

    That was really informative! Thanks! I really didn't know that at all.

    Tavi October 10, 2014 9:43 pm
    Nope! Well ok technically no. If your partner is good and by good I mean a good lover not good at please themselves, then you will get to enjoy a great deal of foreplay. At which time your body will naturally ... Tavi

    Gonna add these sources on for anyone who is wondering if I'm making stuff up!

    http://www.pamf.org/teen/health/femalehealth/hymen.html

    http://www.ourbodiesourselves.org/2008/12/the-hymen-breaking-the-myths/

    http://www.yourtango.com/201172815/7-things-you-didnt-know-about-hymen

    http://health.howstuffworks.com/sexual-health/female-reproductive-system/vagina6.htm

    Tavi October 10, 2014 9:44 pm
    That was really informative! Thanks! I really didn't know that at all. Twinpowerhm

    No problem, I posted a second listing with some sources if you're interested but because it has links it has to be approved first. Hehe so you can check back later or do a google search on the myth of hymen, because sadly there are still a ton of sources out there who will tell you that a hymen is some barrier that needs to be torn down by a penis to lose your virginity.

    Twinpowerhm October 10, 2014 10:01 pm

    Thanks a bunch Tavi! =)

    Tavi October 10, 2014 10:05 pm
    Thanks a bunch Tavi! =) Twinpowerhm

    A pleasure! If you ever need to talk just drop me a msg on here, I'm usually around and bored. Or at work on here and bored. lol

    Twinpowerhm October 10, 2014 10:13 pm

    Will do!!

    Magnolia October 10, 2014 10:45 pm

    It is one interesting discussion, and you've landed on a person who is fully aware of herself (Tavi), I don't think that I can contribute more or say more than she has already said but I've been interested in this area too. Personally, I am straight, however I've did my own research before and I realized that there were gay or bi people who separate between sexuality and commitment (for instance there are gay people who can occasionally have intercourse with women and enjoy it but still would consider themselves as 100% gay because for lifetime commitment (marriage), they would be thinking about spending their life with a man not a woman.
    There are also gay people who separate between sex and being gay, saying that there are more into being gay than just having a**l sex.
    I suppose though that you have answered your own question: if you can be sexually attracted to either genders and be romantically involved with either one in terms of commitment, than you are fully bi.

    Twinpowerhm October 10, 2014 10:59 pm
    It is one interesting discussion, and you've landed on a person who is fully aware of herself (Tavi), I don't think that I can contribute more or say more than she has already said but I've been interested in t... @Magnolia

    Thank you Magnolia! You really broke it down simply. Haha I guess I've answered my own question of sexual orientation. It's nice.

    Magnolia October 11, 2014 12:02 am
    Thank you Magnolia! You really broke it down simply. Haha I guess I've answered my own question of sexual orientation. It's nice. Twinpowerhm

    haha yup you did, and you've also answered your own question about threesomes. I would like to add though that it is not at all recommended if you are in a serious relationship. It is not just about getting mad or jealous, but from my perspective it is like playing with fire. Even if two persons are madly in love, but what if this love gets tested with this threesome? What if one of the partners gets confused or starts to question his/her own feelings or finds himself/ herself in a situation where he/she realizes he/she can love two persons at the same time (you know that some relationships can start purely physical and evolve into deep feelings)? So why go there, why create an unnecessary ordeal for oneself and thy partner? Why jeopardize this relationship with confusion and bitterness?
    It is not right to refrain from being "wise" just because one has to prove that one is self-confident. I'd rather be wise and perhaps a little bit cunning in protecting what I want. Wise possessiveness and love go hand by hand for me lolol
    I think that for romantic people who want a serious relationship, one-to-one is the best thing for both of them and it can be nurtured afterwards through communication, attentiveness, kindness and forgiveness. In my book, that is happiness ... all the best to you ^^

    Twinpowerhm October 11, 2014 1:19 am
    haha yup you did, and you've also answered your own question about threesomes. I would like to add though that it is not at all recommended if you are in a serious relationship. It is not just about getting mad... @Magnolia

    @Magnolia, I totally agree. =)
    I don't really know how to tell my parents I'm Bi though. My twin sister, I've told her that I kind of lean that way a few weeks ago. She kind of went. "Oh. Ohh.". I felt really awkward.

    Magnolia October 11, 2014 12:23 pm
    @Magnolia, I totally agree. =) I don't really know how to tell my parents I'm Bi though. My twin sister, I've told her that I kind of lean that way a few weeks ago. She kind of went. "Oh. Ohh.". I felt really a... Twinpowerhm

    Well I understand that it might be difficult especially if your parents, sibling(s) are of the religious type (and perhaps they aren't). I mean our societies tend to stigmatize sexuality through the paradigm of Sodom and Gomorrah. Religious values shape social values which in their turn shape our perspective of and attitude towards sexuality. I personally do embrace certain religious values but I wouldn't become aggressive towards someone because of his/her sexual orientation. There is an erroneous belief maybe that people who aren't "straight" are just seeking to maximize their net pleasure. This might apply to some people but not to everyone. I think we've already agreed that there are two levels in sexuality (the sexual part and the romantic, commitment, love part), and we fall in love because we want to be happy. If this means that the person is of the same sex, there isn't much we can do, we just need to accept that person's decision. A person's sexual orientation is beyond the control of another person, it is even beyond the control of the person who is experiencing it. It is just happening like breathing and eating.
    I think that you don't have to strain yourself with it, just let it be. Your parents and sibling will realize it all by themselves and in most cases, they won't say a word because they would want you to be happy.

    Twinpowerhm October 11, 2014 3:20 pm

    I told my brother and he was really really great. I told him I prefer guys, and he was like, ya. I dated a girl that was bisexual and preferred women. When I told one of my friends, she was really cool too (and of the same sexual orientation). Also, it was really funny because I texted them both and they immediately called me. I don't really want to tell my parents until I'm really comfortable with being bi and with the term itself.

    Tavi October 14, 2014 5:19 am
    I told my brother and he was really really great. I told him I prefer guys, and he was like, ya. I dated a girl that was bisexual and preferred women. When I told one of my friends, she was really cool too (and... Twinpowerhm

    Ah it's good to be able to talk to people you know and trust about what you're thinking and feeling isn't? Especially when they don't make it a huge deal and try to tell you you're wrong or broken!

    By all means don't think you have to tell your parents about it until you're more sure of yourself. I've never really liked the whole idea of coming out, I'll explain it to people if they ask me, but I never really like dramatically came out of the closet to anyone. Even my parents, my mom just asked me if I was dating anyone. And I pretty much went, nope, probably not ever either. And she was like why? I explained aromantic. She was like...Oh, I don't quite understand that stuff. But as long as you're happy. I do luv my mom. lol

    Twinpowerhm December 29, 2014 1:35 am
    Ah it's good to be able to talk to people you know and trust about what you're thinking and feeling isn't? Especially when they don't make it a huge deal and try to tell you you're wrong or broken!By all means ... Tavi

    Hey @Tavi! Been awhile. I want to thank you for helping me so much months ago. I'm so much more comfortable about who I am, and I've really accepted myself with the fact that I'm Bi. I told my parents a few months ago. They were shocked, but everything turned out ok for the most part. I've been telling my friends a few at a time, and they are amazingly chill about it.

    Tavi December 29, 2014 10:31 am
    Hey @Tavi! Been awhile. I want to thank you for helping me so much months ago. I'm so much more comfortable about who I am, and I've really accepted myself with the fact that I'm Bi. I told my parents a few mon... Twinpowerhm

    That is something completely awesome to see before the turning of the new year! :) I'm sooo glad that everything is working out for you and that everyone is so accepting! Stay strong and stay proud of yourself! Don't be afraid of change and enjoy the ride! Hehe

    1zzybelc August 15, 2016 9:36 pm

    I was bi but now I decided to be lesbian. I realized when I developed feelings for another girl. At first I was in denial then I decided to just be who I am. I cant even imagine being with a man now. Much less holding hands with one. The idea of guys in a romantic way makes me feel uncomfortable and wrong. So yeah thats how I know im gay. In the end be yourself! But use your head

    Twinpowerhm August 16, 2016 1:42 am
    I was bi but now I decided to be lesbian. I realized when I developed feelings for another girl. At first I was in denial then I decided to just be who I am. I cant even imagine being with a man now. Much less ... 1zzybelc

    Thank you so much for sharing your journey with me!! I really appreciate it. It's been almost two years since I posted this question. And I proudly identify as being bi (with a preference for women as of right now). I'm being myself and loving every second of it! Thanks again. : )

    Ella June 21, 2018 12:35 pm

    I was bi then I turned pansexual. I discovered I was bi when I fell inlove with my girl bestfriend ;-;. she was lesbian though. [if you're wondering, we already broke up doe]

    Thotbot July 20, 2018 6:17 pm

    Idk, i've always been attracted to men and women alike, so i never really had this sort of realization. Maybe the fact that my family/friends are really accepting and really didn't care about such things...

    Twinpowerhm July 24, 2018 3:21 am

    I posted this question about four years ago now, and I can 100% say I am bisexual / queer. This chat really really helped me in my time of need back then. Thank you everyone! <3 My four year anniversary of coming out happens in October 2018.

Twinpowerhm October 10, 2014 2:42 pm

I'm looking for yaoi/shounen-ai where the main couple are at first antagonistic and then they start to get to know each other and fall in love.

    dee October 10, 2014 5:19 pm

    try ameiro paradox

    Twinpowerhm October 10, 2014 5:23 pm
    try ameiro paradox @dee

    Thank you love. I think I've read this one, but I'll re-read, plus I found a good bully/tease lover list.

    dee October 10, 2014 6:51 pm

    you're welcome dear

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