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forreal April 11, 2024 5:45 am

A blond Raven ((sigh))

    SisterFriede April 11, 2024 9:45 am

    I have an albino flying around in a park nearby XD

    forreal April 14, 2024 1:13 pm

    Wow. An albino Raven. That's like the rarest of rare sights.

    I come from an area where the raven population is quite high, but have never seen one. Hope I see and photograph one before I die. I love the black of ravens and takes photos of them quite a lot :)

    Coming back to the manga, authors really like to write about cosmic flukes...

forreal March 23, 2024 8:24 am

Trigger Warning - Pedophilia, Child r@pe, Child Prostitution, Child Abuse, Child Sex Trafficking

Damn it. Another work with sensitive/triggering content without any warnings. Disgusting.

Also seriously the disgusting adults surrounding these kids. No amount of torture is enough for these disgusting creatures.

Also, another light haired seme who is subjected to sexual abuse as a child. Hardly happens to dark haired semes. Authors have this twisted racial domination and fetishism going on where they write light haired characters being repeatedly subjected to such atrocities.

Till date, number of manga with this trope - 58 (Light haired Seme) vs 17 (Dark haired Seme). I don't even need to count this happening to light haired ukes, since the majority is written with light haired person as uke.

    Kuze March 23, 2024 11:20 am

    Well what do you know, author is korean and korean is intolerant toward non black hair nature

    shithead March 23, 2024 12:45 pm

    wait does the manhwa show full on child r*pe? like the whole thing? or is it few panels or just mention of it in flashbacks and stuff?

    titty-eyed mosquito March 23, 2024 1:25 pm
    wait does the manhwa show full on child r*pe? like the whole thing? or is it few panels or just mention of it in flashbacks and stuff? shithead

    Can't say anything about the manhwa, but so far the novel only has mentions of rape and sexual assault that is happening to the circus performers (that might include the child MC? It was an incident that happened in the past)

    shithead March 23, 2024 2:22 pm
    Can't say anything about the manhwa, but so far the novel only has mentions of rape and sexual assault that is happening to the circus performers (that might include the child MC? It was an incident that happen... titty-eyed mosquito

    oh. can you link me the novel please? and thanks

    shithead March 24, 2024 6:31 am
    Sure here it is https://booktoki330.com/novel/5408747?stx=%EC%9A%B8%ED%94%84+%EC%9D%B8+%EB%8D%94+%EC%BC%80&book=%EC%99%84%EA%B2%B0%EC%86%8C%EC%84%A4 titty-eyed mosquito

    oh it was dropped...

    forreal March 24, 2024 12:41 pm
    Well what do you know, author is korean and korean is intolerant toward non black hair nature Kuze

    It's not limited to just this author or just Korean authors. This happens in all Japanese, Chinese and Korean works.

    I have seen many authors mainly write seme as dark haired and when they write some work with seme with r@pe as backstory, they suddenly switch the seme to being light haired.

    This is not even limited to BL, same thing happens with male characters in other genre.

    Heck, even in hetro manga, women most often than not are portrayed with light haired.

    For countries with predominantly black hair to first portray so many light haired characters, and further more portray these atrocities committed against them...

    Kuze March 24, 2024 2:07 pm

    Idk about chinese since I almost never read chinese webtoon but Ive seen enough black haired got raped in japanese yaoi

    forreal March 24, 2024 3:53 pm
    Idk about chinese since I almost never read chinese webtoon but Ive seen enough black haired got raped in japanese yaoi Kuze

    Not saying that doesn't happen. I am talking about numbers.

    With semes, the majority is light haired.

    With ukes, in general about 70 to 80% have light hair. So, even considering same % of atrocities committed towards light vs dark haired ukes, the % is more for light haired ukes.

    Japanese, Korean and Chinese all follow this.

    Choso's Voluptuous Tiddies March 24, 2024 4:33 pm
    Can't say anything about the manhwa, but so far the novel only has mentions of rape and sexual assault that is happening to the circus performers (that might include the child MC? It was an incident that happen... titty-eyed mosquito

    Does it say specifically what the incident was

    titty-eyed mosquito March 24, 2024 7:29 pm
    Does it say specifically what the incident was Choso's Voluptuous Tiddies

    So up to the point I read the MC does talk about the incident in detail. He was supposed to service a guest in the crater, an adult man. It wasn't full on rape as there was no penetration but it came very close to it. Fortunately at the last minute he turned into a wolf and attacked the pedo but didn't kill him

    Choso's Voluptuous Tiddies March 24, 2024 7:32 pm
    So up to the point I read the MC does talk about the incident in detail. He was supposed to service a guest in the crater, an adult man. It wasn't full on rape as there was no penetration but it came very close... titty-eyed mosquito

    Well at the very least I'm glad he attacked him shame he didn't kill the pedo still disgusting they have children doing that damn thank you

    Choso's Voluptuous Tiddies March 24, 2024 7:34 pm
    So up to the point I read the MC does talk about the incident in detail. He was supposed to service a guest in the crater, an adult man. It wasn't full on rape as there was no penetration but it came very close... titty-eyed mosquito

    Sorry can I also ask is it going to happen again to him I'm not sure if I should keep reading if it does ?

    titty-eyed mosquito March 24, 2024 7:51 pm
    Sorry can I also ask is it going to happen again to him I'm not sure if I should keep reading if it does ? Choso's Voluptuous Tiddies

    I finished the first volume where he is still a child and nothing like that happens again. I also skipped a bit further and didn't see anything related to rape, but I'm not 100 % sure as it was mtl. Anyways I'm gonna continue reading it as characters and the story is interesting and I want to see the MC grow and become more self confident amd not be afraid and repulsed by his monster side

    Choso's Voluptuous Tiddies March 24, 2024 7:53 pm
    I finished the first volume where he is still a child and nothing like that happens again. I also skipped a bit further and didn't see anything related to rape, but I'm not 100 % sure as it was mtl. Anyways I'm... titty-eyed mosquito

    Ok tysm

    Sorry, I only eat ass March 25, 2024 5:02 am
    So up to the point I read the MC does talk about the incident in detail. He was supposed to service a guest in the crater, an adult man. It wasn't full on rape as there was no penetration but it came very close... titty-eyed mosquito

    Wtf author should have made him kill that nasty ass pedo

    titty-eyed mosquito March 25, 2024 8:10 am
    Wtf author should have made him kill that nasty ass pedo Sorry, I only eat ass

    The people outsode the tent noticed the commotion and went in and subdued Six so he couldn't do anything

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forreal October 20, 2023 6:53 am

There have been too many instances on this site where I started reading BL work and suddenly came across things like child rape, child abuse, child prostitution, child sex trafficking etc. Some even have explicit child rape scenes. Most of the time there are no Trigger Warnings and comes as a total surprise in an unpleasant disgusting way. I saw very few cases where the chapter would have trigger warnings at the start, but even this is a rare case. Some of these are so small and do not attract enough attention when compared to the huge red warnings page stating not to reupload or some other stuff before it.

Shouldn't these kinds of things be mentioned on the summary or prologue and at the start of the chapter. So that people can make informed decisions? And this should be done even if it's implied or a backstory. People do get physically ill due to triggers.

Sadly, with the current state of BL I go into reading one expecting there to be some kind of rape for adults. But children are not at an age where they should be exposed to some elements (even thought sadly some are exposed). So this should have a much strict regulation.

So,
1. do authors put Trigger Warning on a book when they publish it?
2. If not why?
3. If yes, why are these not present on mangago?
4. I feel it would be better to have a separate section here to explicitly mention these warnings. and uploaders should fill this information when creating a new manga page and may be put a warning page before the first chapter.

Also it would be highly appreciated if people (who know there are problematic plot points and no trigger warnings) can put a Trigger warning in the comments or topics section.

Note: I read somewhere that an author did not put trigger warnings for child related abuse because it would ruin the surprise. I am not sure how credible this is, but if it is true... that is some disgusting thought process and stupidity of the highest level.

    DollieDances October 20, 2023 6:49 am

    I think it's too normalized I've seen some authors put disclaimers but I think Mangago itself should have an actual warning tagging system cuz sometimes I dive into a manga without reading them and immediately i feel sick

    forreal October 20, 2023 6:59 am

    Sorry for the typos in the original post. I had to edit it. There seems to a bug in the site, where the replies disappear as soon as the OP is edited. Someone has to post another reply for all the replies to appear again.

    pigglypoof October 20, 2023 7:06 am

    I find Western webcomics are more likely to warn for triggers at the start of a chapter than Korean manhwa or Japanese manga. If there are warnings in the latter, it's usually added by the English translators and not the authors themselves.

    You should also keep in mind that some of the legal sites that these manga/manhwa are being ripped from have age restrictions (or at least they used to). I recall Naver, Bomtoon, and Toonmic used to require age verification to read their mature series. I imagine the lack of warnings is also partially due to cultural differences concerning mental health and awareness.

    forreal October 20, 2023 7:58 am
    I find Western webcomics are more likely to warn for triggers at the start of a chapter than Korean manhwa or Japanese manga. If there are warnings in the latter, it's usually added by the English translators a... pigglypoof

    If the official sites have it, then the uploaders here are not putting those warnings?

    I am Asian, and I would really appreciate if authors and uploaders start considering mental health. I am not saying they have to put warning for all kinds of stuff. But rape, child related sensitive content should have warning. Child related stuff should not be normalized, period.

    pigglypoof October 20, 2023 8:01 am
    If the official sites have it, then the uploaders here are not putting those warnings?I am Asian, and I would really appreciate if authors and uploaders start considering mental health. I am not saying they hav... forreal

    I think you've misread what I wrote. The official Korean sites do not have warnings. They have age verification and restrictions.

    forreal October 20, 2023 8:19 am
    I think you've misread what I wrote. The official Korean sites do not have warnings. They have age verification and restrictions. pigglypoof

    Oh. Got it. Thanks.

    Then it's just bad if the official sites themselves do not have these warnings.

    **Anonymous** October 20, 2023 9:58 am

    But even if there's no warning in the actual manga , there's many warning in comments.... But of course there's none on new manga so u have to wait for a while before someone post the warning in it

    forreal October 20, 2023 11:56 am
    But even if there's no warning in the actual manga , there's many warning in comments.... But of course there's none on new manga so u have to wait for a while before someone post the warning in it **Anonymous**

    I partially agree to this. Yes we can get the info from the comments, but that does not always work. First it's not glaringly obvious which Trigger warning should be. Second, if the manga has a lot of discussion going on, then you might not find it on first page. And I don't know how many people actually go through all the comments.

    But yes, someone adding the trigger warnings in the comments is greatly appreciated.

forreal October 15, 2023 12:19 pm

Looking for manga where either
1. Dark haired seme was r@ped as a child or otherwise
2. Dark haired male character in other genre was r@ped as a child
3. Dark haired seme who was an uke before

Although r@pe is r@pe, I am looking for male on male where DARK haired seme/male character was bottom. and not reverse rape or with female.

I am ONLY looking for manga with above cases pertaining to DARK haired person.

I already have

https://www.mangago.me/read-manga/sakura_gari/
https://www.mangago.me/read-manga/soine_lovers/
https://www.mangago.me/read-manga/yondaime_ooyamato_tatsuyuki/
https://www.mangago.me/read-manga/yuigon/
https://www.mangago.me/read-manga/puppy_play_with_papa/uu/br_chapter-104972/pg-39/
https://www.mangago.me/read-manga/shounen_to_kamikakushi/
https://www.mangago.me/read-manga/kyouai_shinri_paradox/

Others
https://www.mangago.me/read-manga/totally_captivated/
https://www.mangago.me/read-manga/mumyoutou/
https://www.mangago.me/read-manga/neji_no_kaiten/
https://www.mangago.me/read-manga/life_ain_t_so_bad/
https://www.mangago.me/read-manga/skin_asada_nemui/
https://www.mangago.me/read-manga/my_k_kun/
https://www.mangago.me/read-manga/the_boss_conditions/

Feeling pretty messed by up right now. Just found that seme from Gift was actually r@ped by his brother and father just because he has light hair and eyes. Adding this to all the other cases where where light haired people were r@ped as children.. What are authors exactly trying to imply. This is just plain Racial Domination and disgusting fetishism.

https://www.mangago.me/home/mangatopic/14315920/
https://www.mangago.me/home/mangatopic/14613432/

    CherryTree October 15, 2023 10:25 am

    Painter of the Night _ Mad Dog _ (both ML were raped in their childhood.)

    forreal October 15, 2023 11:53 am
    Painter of the Night _ Mad Dog _ (both ML were raped in their childhood.) CherryTree

    Thank you. I remember reading Painter of the night, but I don't remember any child r@pe in that. I think he was physically and mentally abused.

    forreal October 15, 2023 12:21 pm

    Any more suggestions?

    CherryTree October 15, 2023 12:25 pm
    Thank you. I remember reading Painter of the night, but I don't remember any child r@pe in that. I think he was physically and mentally abused. forreal

    Everybody has dark hair in Painter of the Night , obviously. (It's historical) _ and yes it is implied that if ML has turned out to be a sex addict (suffering from priapism as they say) in his adulthood, it is because his childhood was robbed from him, and that he suffers from the consequences of multiple sexual assault facilitated by his father (!) _ it's in the end of the story in the redemption arc of ML. _ the servant is the one explaining the history of the ML to the MC.

    forreal October 15, 2023 12:30 pm
    Everybody has dark hair in Painter of the Night , obviously. (It's historical) _ and yes it is implied that if ML has turned out to be a sex addict (suffering from priapism as they say) in his adulthood, it is ... CherryTree

    That's so messed up. Father doing that to his child is just... No amount of torture is enough for them. Why have children when you yourselves are going to abuse, r@pe or sell them into prostitution.
    Sorry, I read it a long time ago, so I might not have read the later parts. I will check it out.

    CherryTree October 15, 2023 12:41 pm

    I don't know what you are trying to prove , but to me it's obvious that the authors are japanese or Korean or chinese so that means the majority of the population in their country ( where the story takes place ) are dark haired . The choice of various hair colours in manga is made only for aesthetic reason ( and to make the MC look outstanding so as to make the potential readers to want to dig in when they see the MC and the ML on the cover of the comic ! ) different hair colours help the readers easily distinguish between the many different characters in the story as well. The norm in these countries for children is to be born with dark hair. It's called genetics!!! _ characters that are not dark haired are implied either to be mixed raced, but more often are implied to have used hair dyes or so once growing up, so basically what I am saying is that the majority if not all and every characters had dark hair in their childhood because they are born from asian parents and they are characters written by and for asian people.

    CherryTree October 15, 2023 12:49 pm

    Now before saying that every author viciously chose to harm the ML because the ML was dark haired (is that what you are saying?) You could go ask every author , why they chose to make the MC look different than the ML, and why was the ML the one who had to have dark hair. (But again a lot of characters in those stories have dark hair, the other hair colour are the exception !) _ I guess that would lead to an interesting conversation ! _ I feel that you are angry with those authors for some reasons, but only the authors could give their own reasons (but again it's probably not '' racial domination '' and '' discusting fetishism '' if the authors are asians themselves and living in asian countries and writting for asian people ? It's just that all children have black hair !!! _

    forreal October 15, 2023 1:41 pm
    I don't know what you are trying to prove , but to me it's obvious that the authors are japanese or Korean or chinese so that means the majority of the population in their country ( where the story takes place ... CherryTree

    I totally agree with you that majority of these characters are not foreigners. Which is exactly my point, why would such high number of people in these countries dye their hair. If I am not wrong many work places and schools have strict rules against it. But all these manga clearly depict them being students and in workforce.

    And how come predominantly only the people who dye their hair end up being uke, seme with tragic past, male characters in other genre with tragic past. Heck even women (leads) in hetero manga/anime end up having predominantly light hair, in countries with predominantly dark hair.

    Now the issue I have with this is exactly with the depiction. Why are light colored hair considered aesthetic pleasing or why does MC look outstanding only with light colored hair or if you are saying it helps in distinguishing ML and MC why not have the light haired guy predominantly be the seme instead of uke.

    These may look like small things but often times there are very deep rooted problematic reasons for these choices - like wanting to racial dominate due to past grievances or abuse, or severely deep seated insecurities where you are not comfortable in your skin.

    You might say people are just reading it for fun, why bring up this at all? Many people are actually highly influenced by content they see in movies, read manga etc. These things have a very deep psychological effect on them unconsciously. Have you ever heard of White/Fair skin obsession. It's rampant in east, south and south-eastern Asia. Food for thought.

    Note: I know Painter of the night has everyone with dark hair and hence why I read it. I am not saying all the manga have need to dark haired characters, but at least strike a balance where it's not just majorly light haired uke. Also create more manga with all dark hair being encouraged.
    1. Because feeling comfortable in your skin is important.
    2. Because may be sometimes letting go of past grievances is the answer. The people who abused your kin or ancestors are most likely no longer here. So there is no point taking it out on the people who are living now.
    3. Because black does not represent men and white does not represent women. White is neither weak nor innocent. And you don't have to force yourselves to fit into these stereotypes.

    Of course just me thinking this and posting about this is not going to change anything. At most a few people might agree. Majority would just think of this as a nuisance and ignore it, but I am stubborn like that.

    RARE°INSIGHTS•やおい◼ October 15, 2023 2:07 pm

    Here seme got raped as a child by his own mother -
    https://www.mangago.me/read-manga/umbilical_sex/

    forreal October 15, 2023 2:22 pm
    Now before saying that every author viciously chose to harm the ML because the ML was dark haired (is that what you are saying?) You could go ask every author , why they chose to make the MC look different than... CherryTree

    Obsession with white/fair features is a thing. And it is exactly because the authors are Asian themselves I am saying this. Because this is a THING in China, Korea (ever heard of plastic surgery), Japan, Indian subcontinent, Indonesia, Vietnam and so on..

    Also I think you misunderstood something. All my comments about disgusting author was about not condoning child r@pe, making the child in question say "Even thought he was not a good father and r@ped me, he is still my father." as a grown up, writing explicit child r@pe and severely twisting up genetics.

    Honestly I have been reading/watching manga/anime for 2 decades, BL in the last decade. I am not a personal who is active on social media. Heck I don't even have any social media accounts except fb which I do not use. I opened this account very recently because I was done with this. I was hoping things would be better at some point.

    Back in the day there was this huge disturbance in the BL fandom about height stereotypes. Because people were seeing that pattern, were sick of it and started raising their voice about it. So more people are aware and acknowledge that is a stereotype today.

    Also about speaking with the author, maybe in the future. As I said I am not much of a social media person. But logically speaking, authors mostly only want to write things which sell. If I can't even convince people here of this stereotype, how can anyone expect that I can convince the author.

    So yes, part of it is because I am pissed off, but definitely not at the authors but at their works. Except for one author (I don't remember their name) who I coincidently found wrote 3 of those problematic books (Those were her only works). When all her books have either child rape, grooming, teacher-school student relationships, child prostitution and severe abuse with out properly condoning them, can you really say I can't be angry. Otherwise, I generally do not look at the author name when picking up a book and do not care.

    forreal October 15, 2023 2:32 pm
    Here seme got raped as a child by his own mother -https://www.mangago.me/read-manga/umbilical_sex/ RARE°INSIGHTS•やおい◼

    Thanks for you reply, but kindly read the request.

    forreal October 15, 2023 2:41 pm

    Sorry for the typos. Also I went of the tangent and deviated from my original request again. Sorry about that.

    Anyway back to the point. Still looking for suggestions and would appreciate your help.

    forreal October 17, 2023 11:44 am

    Any more suggestions?

    forreal January 6, 2024 7:26 am
    Obsession with white/fair features is a thing. And it is exactly because the authors are Asian themselves I am saying this. Because this is a THING in China, Korea (ever heard of plastic surgery), Japan, Indian... forreal

    I meant condemning not condoning. Sorry for the typo. I just realized it.

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