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I couldn't agree more.

They are just salty that Tianshan is the most popular pairing

THere are soooo many ships you could destroy by over-simplifying their dynamics, dont pay attention to the nitpickers, just enjoy yourself, the chapters are waaaaay too short not to.

It's this basically.

there are tons of comments that always put me off reading any comic, mangago is usually full of assholes and trolls who will take advantage/abuse of the anonymous button. this goes for any comic really, but the best thing to do is just ignore. when it comes to this one i always get so annoyed at the people who feel that since he tian x mo are more popular or because they like them better that it means the other couple should just go away and stay out of the story (cause i personally like both equally) and the story should stay about them and sadly this one happens a lot since i think then majority actually like the side couple better (you can have a preference like just don’t be a dick about it), or making shady comments as if one is superior over the other, or comments like the one you speak of. all those comments are annoying. luckily they get overwhelmed mostly by the positive comments. most comments are positive tbh. it’s like someone else said just enjoy yourself, usually if you bring more attention to it by talking about it, it just gets worse and worse. *pats you on the back*

And a mix of jelly Yi stans.

It's so unnecessary to comment on ships like this and call the shippers delusional ... Like of course everyone has their own opinion but you know... If you know it's going to upset someone then just leave it alone ... It upsets me so much that I actually had to add my two cents (that's how you call it? *laughsingerman*) TIANSHAN PROTECTION SQUAT, we must stay strong and try to ignore aaall the bad things ヾ(❀╹◡╹)ﾉ~

That's what they are tho ... what's the big deal?

Well it's like badmouthing something you really enjoy .. It's kind of not nessesaary to do that just let people enjoy things without being a .. jerk

People are not saying anything that is not true. So I don't understand why fans who like the couple think this is so upsetting. All be below is canon, don't you agree?
- He Tian beats up Mo whenever the other disobeys him;
- He Tian forces Mo to do what he wants, never asking Mo what he wants
- He Tian went to Mo's house and arm twisted his arm to wear a jewelry for him .
- He Tian uses physical intimidation to keep Mo afraid of him
- He Tian's first words to Mo were that from that moment on he would have to do what he told him to do .... now, when he is supposedly in love with Mo he still treats Mo the same.
- He Tian said he doesn't like to be given directions ... when all he does to Mo is exactly that.

The good things He Tian did : the job, the hug ( followed the next day by a knee to Mo's stomach for not wanting a sandwich), fighting She Li ... the goods things that Mo can't refuse either because Mo can't even retain the pride of say no to He Tian on anything. Plus, if you want to keep and tame a pet, you beat for discipline and then pat and give them treat to gain their trust ... even the good from He Tian comes with the price that Mo is his property in return.
Now, what is really depressing is that all of the above shouldn't be that hard to recognize and admitted as abuse. And when asked if the good that He Tian does in any way nullifies and excuse the bad, the answer should be only one: of course not.
More than pointing out that Mo/He Tian is a classical pet/owner slave/master trope, people are calling off the readers for pretending that is not and give excuses to explain this as a love story. It does give the notion that Tianshan fans do not know what abuse and toxic relationship are since it's rare to find one who doesn't bend backwards to excuse He Tian's canon, obvious treatment of Mo as property rather than another boy who should be respected or, if he really loves him, someone who is his equal.
Even worst, another day someone was explaining that Mo Guan Shan is actually the one to be blamed for He Tian 'need' to be forceful. Apparently, because Mo Guan Shan doesn't accept his advances, He Tian has no choice but to be forced. Gosh, this must the heaven of rapists and abusers. Imagine not only denying the pet/owner kink but going even further and put the victim as the one to blame for the bully's behavior.

The point has been made clear. Their relationship is abusive. The deal is when people keeps talking about it. True, some are denying it and that's why people still talk about it. But why not consider another perspective? There are still those who do recognize and can differentiate between real life and fiction. There are some readers that enjoy this because they know this is just a story and are not trying to make anything serious out of it. So, just let people read and enjoy what they want.

We heard it miliard times from You. You have written 100 times already. Seriously.
Everyone gets that their relationship is abussive.
I can even say that yup it Has some master/pet vibes (master/slave <<--- nope,Mo is paid and You cant say that He Tian doesnt give a shit about him, he cares in obsessive,often wrong way). And be honest which OWNER whould risks his health like He Tian when he fought without She Li. For his pet.He worries about Mo. He is desprete to spend time with him (fake injury fe.). He is lonely and empty. Pet/master thing is tooooo flat to explain their relationship.
I dont diasgree, He Tian is abussive brat sometimes and really dominant person.
But I'm sure that He would risk his life for Mo Guan Shan in the second.
And I Hope that OX will develope He Tian character and stop with all this usless violence and punch/kick "gags".
And if Mo really hates He Tian he wouldnt go out/hung out with him. And what would He Tian do in that situation? Hit him? Kill him? Blackmail him? Pliz

I don't usually like to reply to the Tianshan bash, but I think I have to. Some people seem to forget really fast when it comes to Xixi beating Jian Yi. But when it's He Tian ,they are eager to scream abuse. Hypocrite much or not? But that's not my point. Let me break down your "canon" for you.
- He Tian beats up Mo whenever the other disobeys him;
In the recent chapters, I didn't see Tian beating Mo for not wanting to stay with him or not wanting to with the fork he put in his mouth. I won't call it progression but people will always complain about what the author had established as "gags for lols". Not that I find it really funny, but that's the author pov.

- He Tian forces Mo to do what he wants, never asking Mo what he wants
Being pushy, that's what He Tian does the best. He doesn't really know how to deal with his feelings like many teenagers. What he said to Jian Yi about the distance between people sums up what how he wants things to go. And he knows how to back off when that doesn't end the way he wanted like the kiss or the restaurant.

- He Tian went to Mo's house and arm twisted his arm to wear a jewelry for him .
See the previous statement.

- He Tian uses physical intimidation to keep Mo afraid of him
Again, it was that at first, when he wanted to tame guanshan, but now it's for the gigs. Not the best way, I think it's cringy, but again that's old Xian pov.


- He Tian's first words to Mo were that from that moment on he would have to do what he told him to do .... now, when he is supposedly in love with Mo he still treats Mo the same.
Dealing with his feelings again. He Tian before the kiss was really forceful and didn't care about Guanshan's feelings. He Tian after the kiss is still forceful but won't cross any boundaries when he sees how Guanshan reacts.

- He Tian said he doesn't like to be given directions ... when all he does to Mo is exactly that.
Two level headed guys like them is bad chemistry but in the good way. He thinks he knows what's best for guanshan. He may be right or wrong but that was for the best. Guanshan wanted to leave school at first, but now consider he has friends and doesn't want to betray his father's expectations. Don't you think it was for the best? Don't you consider that as a character development?

I wanted to say two prideful guys instead of level headed. Mo is anything but level headed, lol!

ultimately I think most of what you said is on point.. I don't know if I fully agree that all of he tian's recent beatings is completely for the gag (some are for sure.. I just don't think all) and given that sometimes I don't think he does back off when he should. the thing with this couple is that they both clash because its like you said, they try to one up the other and aren't level headed. they both try to dominate one another (usually with he tian winning) but their personalities are similar in that way which is why they clash a lot.

I'm a ... I guess what you would call a tianshan fan since I personally prefer them over the main couple (still enjoy the main couple though). they're rough yes and i'll admit their relationship is one of pet/ownership I guess but I personally kinda like it.. if that makes sense. the bickering is hilarious to me and their is more of a chase since mo doesn't realy return he tian's feelings as of yet which makes it kinda like a game which is A+ for me. the thing is with rough relationships like theirs, there is always bound to be people who don't really like it (maybe the whole relationship itself or maybe they still like them but just not that specific aspect of their relationship) because of that. it's more about tastes I guess. I'm not all that fully invested in the story so maybe thats why it personally doesn't really affect me whenever I see comments like "i wish the pet/owner shit would stop" .. I mean yeah its kinda annoying but I simply ignore tbh which is what I think most people should do and just write my own stuff. I think the drama that comes along with it is more annoying. tianshan are starting as enemies though and haven't known each other for very long so it kinda makes sense that they're still clashing so much imo, ppl shouldn't expect them to fall in love so quick. ╮(￣▽￣)╭ thankfully, most ppl see the hitting as gags anyways and it's only a minority that view it as utterly horrible. another point you brought up was saying that people 'forget' xi beats jian yi but i dont think thats true... I remember people addressing his hitting in a chapter whenever it happened but it hasn't happened in a while. thing with he tian is that most of the time (not all of the time of course) he does hit mo to control him or in retaliation to when mo rejects doing something and xi does it 1.) not as often or as much as he tian.. I honestly can't even remember the last time we saw zhan zheng xi hit jian yi... I think it may have been 9 months since the last time we saw him do it. so people obviously won't bring it up when it hasn't happened in a while y'know?? 2.) when xi hits it has a much more lighter air to it.. the 'gags for lol' as the author portrays with them as you said in the author's pov. 3.) xi & mo only hit for those gag like reasons which is when a boundary is crossed or their limit has been tested. 4.) since mo's pov sees he tian as a bully and he is scared of him and calls him dangerous, its easier for people to feel bad for him since we see he tian thru his eyes that way vs jian yi who doesn't fear xi in his eyes at all. I think if most of he tian's hitting were to be like mo and xi's not many ppl would mind as much. I think in the beginning of the story when it was just one couple, back when the chapters were more plotless everything was just slapstick but then it began to develop more of a plot and the author created a new couple and kinda shifted and established/created the final dynamics for each.. the main couple to be more 'fluffy' if you will and the side couple to be more 'rough/complicated' with opposite tropes. the soft seme tsundere/reckless pupplylike uke with friends to lovers trope and the bully teasing seme/hard tsundere uke with the enemies to lovers trope. as a tianshan fan, it would be stupid of me to kinda look at things blindly and say people should treat the couples the same because they're not the same. no the main couple are not perfect but they are definitely the less violent couple of the two (again enemies to lovers trope so its almost a given that comes along with it) so they obviously wouldn't be called out as often especially when like as I said earlier it hasn't happened in a while for them. I see a lot of general readers who adore tianshan notice and say that tianshan are more violent (ones who aren't in the fandom and mostly just read) so I don't think anyone is being biased saying it. I'm definitely not because I prefer tianshan as I said earlier. some people don't like the main couple because they find them too 'vanilla' and some people aren't going to like tianshan because they are too 'rough'. basically some ppl will hate the ships we love for the exact same reasons we love actually them for.. (hope that made sense) lol. like you said though, thats not the point (but I did feel like addressing it though because I don't think anyone is just conveniently 'forgetting' it.. its just that they are softer (not perfect) in comparison to tianshan). I do hope eventually though that people can get over the hitting, not that i'm saying people have to like it but I don't know if this author is the type of author who will ever really let go of the 'hitting for gags'.. even after the couples get together it may still continue who knows. it seems that this is their way of writing comedy that they enjoy and idk if they'll ever stop that way of writing so I feel like... are we going to have to deal with people who hate the hitting for gags constantly until the story ends because... it's not something to keep complaining about if it may never change... if you hate it that much then I don't understand the point of reading a story where you hate the writing of it so much. sure you can criticize but some ppl don't need to repeatedly write their opinion over and over when you're the same person, ppl get it the first time. In fact i'm confident the person writing those comments is actually just one person coming back repeatedly, giving the zhan zheng xi x jian yi side of the fandom a bad look... cause most people love both couples anyways (even if they prefer one). because its always with the same exact words but they try to use different shitty names to look like multiple people. same thing for when I see an anti for the main couple, the tianshan fan doing it is giving a bad look for the tianshan side of the fandom as well even though most are fine with the main couple as well. I think there is one anti for the main couple and one anti for the side couple that repeatedly come back to start drama and its annoying. people need to stop (even tho i'm pretty confident its just those two who keep coming back) with these comments. anyways i feel like i'm slightly getting off topic but yeah honestly just let people enjoy the story or whatever characters.. . anyways I love the story.. and the characters, there will be more developments as the story goes on. <3 thankfully the majority of people can appreciate the story and characters. I try and focus on that.(▰˘◡˘▰)

The last time Xi slapped Jian Yi was when he thought he disappeared. The last He Tian hit was after Mo slapped his hand with the sandwich. After that, He Tian was only forceful. I'm a love Tianshan dynamics but I'm also dissapointed that nothing is moving on jianxi side. I really love both sides even if I find the beating cringy.

That little "hold tight" by He Tian pierced my heart! Now I am afraid if Old Xian is going to make him be mean to Mo again. DX

Holy shit, mah kokoro! <3 (⊙…⊙ ) ⁄(⁄ ⁄·⁄ω⁄·⁄ ⁄)⁄ ε=ε=(ノ≧∇≦)ノ ლ(´ڡ`ლ)

hold tight means just keep him by his side XD. tian said he had plans after school. means a date with mo!

kyyyyaaaaa kyyyyaaa kyyyaaaa " hold tight" ⁄(⁄ ⁄·⁄ω⁄·⁄ ⁄)⁄

Four guys under one umbrella is kinda cute :3

LMAO I LOVED THIS (≧∀≦)

IK

That girl has appeared multiple times..a jealous Mo arc coming? Dammit I don't want him jealous. >< I want Mo to sit back like a king while He Tian scrambles around like a fool for his attention forever..but I guess they won't progress if it stays like that huh?