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Definitely it

Mate, the tag said shotacon and the cover shows clearly an age difference. I'm obviously not endoursing REAL cases of pedophilia or pedophiles but this is bloody fiction. If you feeel dirty don't read it in the first place when it clearly says shotacon

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...boy do I... ;)

I DEMAND A LINK!!


Please? (づ￣ ³￣)づ

100% agree. no matter how much people on here want them to be together, theyre completely ignoring that uke was raped and is basically being forced to keep the baby. i know its a manga but imagine that irl and it would be a horror story not romance..

I meaaaan... I am pro choice, and since he decided he has more to gain out of keeping it...I don’t think there’s any need to throw abortions into the discussion. HE made the choice after all, and he’s been through most hell. And despite hyesung being fictional, i sorta think it’s more respectful not to question one’s decisions of keeping a baby

Wow you guys must be reading a different manga than me. The first time, the fingering was noncon, yes...at first. But when the seme tried to stop, the uke wouldn't let him. And then asked him to put it in. The seme was able to keep enough of his senses that he did the between the thighs thing instead.
The second time the seme was minding his own business in his room. The uke attacked him. The seme told him to stop several times. Even warned him he could get pregnant. To which the uke replied he wanted to have a baby. So if anyone was getting raped there, it was the seme. Oh, and that was the time he got pregnant.
The 3rd time was definitely the seme raping the uke.
So only once out of the 3 times was the uke not actively wanting it...to the point that he basically forced himself on the seme. Rape is wrong...but with these two, it seems to me they like to rape each other

And don't take it out on the baby when the uke wanted to get pregnant then changed his mind.

um..im questioning the comments of people who are angry about the ukes "attitude". I personally dont really care about anyone elses opinion on pro and against abortion im just saying that uke is justified to be pissed off. Yeah both seme and uke make mistakes but there are some people really attacking and pin pointing the most random things..

You forget the 4th time

Some self entitled something you are. “You must be reading a different manga than me” ‘so i will proceed to explain why you are all blind and wrong’

Let’s get some facts (that you are clearly not aware of) down first. Hyesung COULDN’T CONTROL himself DURING HIS HEAT. You can CLEARLY notice that he has a very different attitude and personality the rest of the time, it’s not something he does consciously or willingly, it’s like some sort of trance. How the heck do you expect him to react to warnings when he can’t even think normally? Plus, he was always surprised to find out about what happened during his heat and he was never pleased about it. I know and it IS OBVIOUS that if he could be himself he would never do what he did. This is why he was panicking about having a baby, it’s because he’s conscious now and KNOWS he is not ready for such a responsibility, he doesn’t even LOVE the other person, sadly.

On the other hand dojin has alwas had more control over himself, even if he might act on impulse, he was always shown to be aware of his current actions. Unlike the other he COULD do as he wished and what he did was basically giving in to temptation, WITH knowing the risks of what could happen. It takes two to tango, you know, and you cannot only blame one of them for the pregnancy, that’s medieval ideology.

Basically my opinion is- these two are simply victims of circumstances, it was a first for both to experience such events and none knew how to properly deal with them.In the end they are just two people, with no experience, who happened to clash with each other

oooh sugar...them there's fighting words. Glad you know me so well to know that I am so self entitled, blind, and wrong.
So let's look at your facts. I've been reading omegaverse for quite awhile. i am quite aware of the issues with controlling themselves while in heat. But let me point out a few things. One, when the first alpha attacked him, he wanted nothing to do with it. Yet when the seme tried to stop fingering him, Hyesung blatantly told him not to stop. And it wasn't like I've seen in other mangas where it's "Oh, what's wrong with me. I don't want this but I can't stop myself." Oh and the second time when he attacked the seme...he had to step over the beta sleeping in the hallway. If he really couldn't control himself to that extent...why didn't he sleep with the first alpha or with the beta? Because he still had some control and liked the scent of the seme.

As to the fact that he has a different attitude/personality when in heat...so do I when I go out drinking (I am using drinking as an analogy here because the uke's actions while in heat are a lot like I have seen from friends/family when drinking...impaired judgement, saying/doing things they otherwise wouldn't have when sober). Normally I am overly shy and won't talk to guys I think are cute. If I am drinking, I am more outgoing. So if I were to hit on a guy while I was drinking, give him a blowjob, and tell him to do me (which is something I would never do sober)...can I blame it on the drink and say "But I never would have done that sober"? Can I blame the guy? "You knew I was drunk and not making rational decisions. You should have been able to resist the temptation and stopped me. You rapist!" Or do I put on my big girl panties and recognize the circumstances for what they are? Yeah, for someone so entitled, I am a big believer in taking responsibility for my own actions and dealing with the consequences...kinda odd for someone you claim believes they are deserving of special privileges/treatment.
Now I will agree it takes two to tango. They are both responsible for this. And I was not blaming the uke for getting pregnant. They are both idiots that weren't thinking clearly because of the heat. My prior comments were pointing out to the first two posters who wanted him to abort the baby "because he was raped" or "because he is being forced to keep the baby." Yes he was raped...after the time he became pregnant. The time he got pregnant, he forced himself on the seme. You can't call that rape unless you are talking about the seme being raped. And he is making a decision to keep the baby in exchange for money/goods. That is his decision. If he really didn't want to keep the baby, there are ways to abort it. What do you think women did before abortion clinics?

Alright, okay, you got something wrong AGAIN, no surprise there, the blind and wrong insults feel like they’re coming FROM YOU, hence the ‘’ because you proceeded to explain why you think it’s other people who aren’t catching up with the same thing you are reading.

*sigh* to think i was going to apologize for mistakenly judging you wrong... but there you go again, so because you think you are the only one who’s been reading omegaverse and has observed stuff in it, you think whatever else you say is gonna make sense, right?

Allow me to cut you off, one of the rules of omegaverse is..THE AUTHOR DECIDES THEIR OWN RULES. So i don’t care what you learned, it DOESNT apply to this webtoon the same way. (There’s a lot of things i would like to say and correct you about, but it would take extraordinarily long, so i will cut it short, plus i don’t wanna be too mean, you don’t seem like someone who would deserve it)
Ughh, so if you go do some guy while you’re drunk, which you would not normally do while sober, you are a bit delusional to think you alone are to blame in a two-person deed. Let’s reverse it, if somebody who’s obviously drunk insisted on doing something with you, and you are a, your words, “responsible” person, don’t you think it’s at least the slightest bit irresponsible, and quite horrible of you to TAKE ADVANTAGE of somebody who’s not entirely conscious, or aware of their decisions, it order to do something intimate with them, which normally takes SOME DECISION MAKING? You are the conscious one in this case, the sober one, if anything like this were to get to court, the SOBER person would be guilty, because they were AWARE of the situation and AWARE of the state the other person was in, easily impressionable and unable to fight back. Darling, this is WHY there are rape drugs, because people CLEARLY KNOW, someone unconscious is easy to take advatage of, and doing that is WRONG.
Please just wake up and start feeling more fairly about yourself, there are time you are guilty , there are times somebody else is, and there are times you share the blame in equal and inequal amounts, not just when YOU are guilty. Don’t think ONLY about your perspective, trying being in another’s shoes and judging them accordingly.

I apologize if my post was not clear since it seems you are still not getting what I am saying (and here I was actually partially agreeing with you, even though the way you posted was actually quite insulting).
First, You were the one who quite clearly called me self entitled and said I was blind and wrong. While my response may have been a bit passive aggressive, at no time did I resort to insulting you in any way...so I am unsure how you feel that I am the one who is being insulting.

Second, I in no way am trying to force my opinion on anyone (and I am not saying that is what you are implying. Just want to make sure there is no more misunderstandings). This is a discussion. In a discussion, we are allowed to state our opinions. I stated my opinions on what I have read thus far in this manga. I provided facts that I have read in this manga (you'll notice that while I may have mentioned I have read a lot of omegaverse, I never once brought up any examples from other stories) and provided what I felt was a suitable real life analogy to try and demonstrate my point of view.

Third, I included the fact that I have been reading omegaverse for awhile to demonstrate that I am not a newbie to this genre. I was trying, although I apparently failed, to let you know that I understood your comment about the heat causing loss of control. I get it. I am also quite aware of the fact that authors tweak the universe as needed for their story. I get that too. I am judging this one based on the actions of our seme and uke. So I was trying to speak as one omegaverse fan to another because, believe it or not, I could tell that you are a fan and not a troll.

Fourth, at no point in my analogy did I state that I believed the sole blame would fall on me (or on the uke, tying this back into the story) and I apologize if it came across that way. One thing that drives me crazy is when people shift all the blame to one side. I agree that in some cases, all the blame may lie on one side. But as you stated previously it takes two to tango...which is true in most cases as it is in this story. I believe, based off of what I have read in this manga, that the uke did have some control. He could have stayed in his room. He could have attacked the beta instead. I also believe the seme is just as responsible. He could have tried harder to resist the uke's pheromones. Also, going back to the drinking analogy, in this case it would be a situation where they were both under the influence. The seme was affected by the uke's pheromones. So in a RL situation where I (as an example) were to get drunk and hit on someone who was also drinking and basically force myself on him, when I sobered up I would be adult enough to understand that I did something stupid and the guy (depending on his level of intoxication) could either be just as stupid or could be a piece of trash. I wouldn't throw sole blame on the guy for my actions. I own my actions as I would hope that he would own his. I also want to make sure that you understand that I am well aware of the difference between being taken advantage of when you are so drunk that you can't give consent (or when a drug is used on you) and consensual sex when one or both parties have been drinking. My analogy was the latter.

Again, these are my opinions based on what I have read and understood in the last 20 chapters. And again, the reason for my original post was not to place blame on the uke or the seme, but to point out to the OP and their first respondent that there is another point of view in regards to their "he should abort because he was raped and forced to carry the baby" comments. Sorry this was so long and I hope this has cleared any misunderstandings

omg... I apologize... but i will need more time to reply to that monstrosity (of a comment), cuz it's HUGE! (っ°Д °;)っ
sorry for making you wait