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ulys May 1, 2024 8:21 am

I am so mad that I didnt read this sooner, I was told that this story was amazing and for some reason I doubted it
This is currently the best manwha I’ve read, it made me cry it made me stand up and literally start clapping at times, and it’s so genuine in its portrayal of slowly falling in love with someone entirely different to you. This author has my heart, I wish I could buy physical copies of this manwha because I truly would.

I am going to reread this every few years haha

ulys April 12, 2024 9:28 am

When they first fell in love there was a language barrier wedged between them, and they struggled to communicate

But now, even though they speak the same language its like that barrier still exists and they’re perpetually doomed to miscommunication

ulys April 5, 2024 6:46 pm

this was so good
im a sucker for the top x top trope (sigh)

if anyone knows of smth similar pls recommend

╰(*´︶`*)╯♡

    weakforbl April 26, 2024 6:16 pm

    Define the Relationship has both tops! Though it’s an alpha x alpha tho story and idk if you’re into that. It’s also a webtoon that has 98 chapters hahaha I must say that it has different vibe from this manga but it’s quite a solid story for me!


    https://www.mangago.me/read-manga/define_the_relationship/

    ulys April 26, 2024 9:34 pm
    Define the Relationship has both tops! Though it’s an alpha x alpha tho story and idk if you’re into that. It’s also a webtoon that has 98 chapters hahaha I must say that it has different vibe from this m... weakforbl

    oms i love that manhwa!!! its genuinely in like my top 10, its got such a gorgeous art style too

    weakforbl April 27, 2024 12:06 am
    oms i love that manhwa!!! its genuinely in like my top 10, its got such a gorgeous art style too ulys

    That’s nice to hear!! I just finished reading it yesterday so that’s why I recommended it to you :> and yes!!! The art style is gorgeous!! I love both main characters ♡ they’re really attractive

ulys March 9, 2024 2:32 pm

i dont understand the “they have history together” and “they have more chemistry” arguments for tj and ian

their “history” together is toxic and it’s developed into a sort of stockholm syndrome, further they barely develop past anything physical
jo on the other hand has multiple times expressed his desire to know ian in different ways, to get him to open up and experience being loved in a healthy way
“but tj and ian have more chemistry” ??? ian and jo are hella compatible, ian has expressed multiple times that he finds jo easy to open up to, he feels safe around him and he’s able to have conversations with him that don’t result in fighting and then make-up sex

anyway i love ian and i understand he’s not at a point where he believes he deserves the love that jo gives him, but like gahhh i can’t stand seeing people prefer tj and ian being together when its very clear how warped their relationship is with each other and how it’s not at ALL helping ian grow as a person

anyway i want them all to be happy, tj included, i just don’t want tj anywhere near ian anymore lol, maybe he can fall in love with some other guy idk

    hatdiggitydog March 9, 2024 9:34 pm

    i honestly disagree about the "barely develop past anything physical". i also don't agree with the argument people use of "they have more chemistry" because that's not a valid reason for ian to choose tj it's just a shallow ass way of thinking from the readers lol.

    tj and ian go way back even before they had anything physical. it's been shown from the start that they've had a strong bond since they were in their teenage years. they cared for each other and were there for each other through all the shit they went through, like tj helping ian stop being addicted or ian comforting tj about his family. there are still a lot of things we don't know till now about their past like who is david kim or about ian's racing career. yes tj did hurt ian a lot, like when choosing the gang over ian or when he indirectly led to breaking his leg. despite knowing that, ian still wants tj.

    the main reason that's been shown of why ian and tj can't be together is because ian wanted to leave that gang life while tj stayed, showing ian that tj didn't prioritize him. and yet they're still stuck in this cycle of sleeping together and being together in general that they just can't let go. however, tj gave ian a final out. after their fight in chapter 33, tj ended all contact with ian and it was what ian wanted all along, a normal life. even while knowing that, ian still went to see tj and came back for him. ian put aside his normal life and said he'd "kill all those bastards" just because he cared that much for tj. tj still gave him another chance after the funeral, and told ian to leave once more. and still he stayed. mind you, ian did all that knowing that joe told him about his feelings, it just shows that ian is not serious about him sadly.

    i think it's really obvious that they care for each other a lot and still share love between them even if they can't be together. they obviously do have problems too that can be solved with some time apart and therapy once they've grown a little. i'm also not being rude or anything at all i'm just curious to see your take on this.

    ulys March 9, 2024 10:03 pm
    i honestly disagree about the "barely develop past anything physical". i also don't agree with the argument people use of "they have more chemistry" because that's not a valid reason for ian to choose tj it's j... hatdiggitydog

    honestly i think a lot of this comes down to preference haha, in general i think ian and jo have a more stable relationship which is why i prefer it

    i think my biggest problem with ian and tj, which i don’t think i properly said earlier, is like you said, because ian said he doesn’t want to be involved in gang life

    (ian has a weird way of showing this tho, and i really feel bad for tj in this sense because ian’s words and actions are not correlating at all)

    i feel like this is why he aligns better with jo, jo is more of a “clean sheet” for ian which i really think he needs

    HOWEVER if tj does leave the gang and is somehow able to do this for ian i would be WAY more happy with them as a couple haha

    anywho this is all kinda subjective at the end of the day, and like tj is still lowkey redeemable

    hatdiggitydog March 9, 2024 10:17 pm
    honestly i think a lot of this comes down to preference haha, in general i think ian and jo have a more stable relationship which is why i prefer iti think my biggest problem with ian and tj, which i don’t th... ulys

    oh yeah i get what you mean you're right about preference lol everyone here either prefers to mend ian's old relationship or for ian to start a new page. and yeah ian is kinda wishy-washy about his actions towards both joe and tj, i feel like that's natural tho bc he doesn't know how any of these normal relationship things work it's kinda sad :/

    but i agree both are good options for ian, only if tj gets therapy tho lol. tj isn't a psychopath or a rapist which is like a fucking needle in a haystack in bl world, and joe is a sense of normalcy in ian's life so i'm excited to find out what happens

ulys March 6, 2024 7:34 am

… kinda starting to love tangbang, he’s insane but kinda enduring
in the beginning i wasn't a fan of him but he’s like really integral to the plot and less insufferable now lol,
also i feel like he knows everything that’s happening and that’s kinda badass

ulys March 4, 2024 7:36 pm

like i get it does deal with some heavy topics, but like the story itself is so interesting and i genuinely am so on board with the whole “let’s assassinate the prince together” thing
anyway this should be rated at least higher than a 9

ulys February 25, 2024 11:09 am

idk why but these stories give such similar vibes (litc being more tame tho) everyone has psychological issues in this yo
so happy i discovered this series bc i’ve been looking for something similar to litc for ages

    LitteSunsChenle February 25, 2024 3:08 pm

    no fr cause everything i’ve been reading have psychotic tops like The edge of ambiguity

    kkkkk February 25, 2024 5:39 pm

    right.. litc peak

ulys February 24, 2024 7:13 pm

this is … so good wtf

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