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miracle2415 August 31, 2026 7:52 am

Commentors are being so weird as if they aren't reading the story. MY is NOT manipulating Nanjo in this scene specifically. He really is going to kill himself, and genuinely doesn't think Nanjo will care because of his foster parents who raised him lovingly for years but threw him away like he was nothing. And his parents may have got their shit together, but never actually did anything to really show they love him. He was merely an obligation. He genuinely doesn't thing he's worth anything.

Should MY be telling Nanjo all this? No. But does he understand why its wrong? Also no. If he had succeeded in cutting his wrist correctly, they literally wouldn't be having this conversation.

Don't get me wrong, he definitely was manipulative at the beginning of the story, but witnessing that he actually went through the attempt, should tell you narratively that he's not playing games at all.

miracle2415 August 22, 2026 6:16 pm

I went into this manwha thinking the seme would be trash like the comments are making him out to be, and I don't know if its because I read darker manwhas with this plot, but the seme is like really normal????

Like it makes sense that he isn't upfront about what happened the night before because he doesn't believe that the uke would actually let him do that despite the evidence. He literally texted the girls to make sure the girl the uke is lying about didn't exist. So everything at the beginning was just trying to get the truth out because the uke is already lying off the bat. So he seems sus for playing games but the uke played games first. Also I was mega confused to learn that the uke was straight before letting himself get fucked the first night and have a good time despite the size???? Like??? That's your first time good sir, why is your reaction a normal amount of panic and not an existential crisis?

I was also waiting to see the seme be a piece of crap during their sex scenes, and while he was a bit forceful like the virgin he is, he actually listened to the uke when he was genuinely uncomfortable. If anything, he's just too excited because he's been in love for 10 years, but has always been a good sport about it until the Uke starts playing games.

Like seriously, the uke is not actually against the sex, which feels icky to type because of the topic, but in this situation, we are given genuine moments of whether the uke is into it or not. Like he's not being overpowered or freezing in fear and repulsed afterwards. He's more like "We had sex, dammit. How will I stop us from inevitably falling in love in order to save our friendship. He's sexy and cute tho, and I don't want him to date anyone else." So yeah, in his denial, he's actually only against the potential for romance through the sex because he REALLY REALLY LIKES the seme, that he doesn't want to jeopardize it. And his dumb slutty ass didn't realize how he digs his own graves until its too late.

Like I don't think a month, much less two even passed before the uke went from "I can't date my friend" to "If we break up, I'll kill him (fondly)".

Like I really like how much of a dumbass disaster the uke is. And this couples dynamic is usually done terribly in other manwha, so its refreshing to see them done hilariously in this one. Though I can tell when the author or perhaps the adapter kinda decided to splash some drama just to rush to the ending with a comfortable conclusion.

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miracle2415 May 22, 2026 8:55 pm

I already have a "Ugly" Ukes list: https://www.mangago.me/home/mangalist/3230750/

Note: Fat ukes are only in here, not because I see them as ugly, but because they are a rarity in yaoi since they are perceived as unattractive by its main audience. Hence why the quotations for the word ugly. HOWEVER, fat ukes who are an absolutely beauty after weight loss do not count.

But I desire more, but I have a criteria:

1) They canNOT be monsters
...unless they are supposed to have a human-like appearance such as vampires/werewolves/succubus...

2) Preferably the uke must be in-universe ugly and drawn "ugly".
...Not the typical cinderella stories where the person is called ugly but gets a glow up. Also not the stories where the uke is drawn in a particular way, but is still seen as divine in the story. I will also not accept ukes that are seen as ugly just for having darker skin.

3) If the uke is fat, they must be fat for the entire story. I will make exceptions if they lose the weight in the aftermath.

4) If the uke is old, they cannot be the ones who appear to age like fine wine. They must be withering and/or wrinkly as if they've been down on their luck.

6) Bara (i.e. the hairy and muscular/fat men) does not count.
...I'm looking for yaoi where the uke doesn't fit the typical image and is comparably less attractive than the seme.

    Cam May 22, 2026 9:00 pm

    I freakin love you.. you just opened so many hidden gems for me!! As a big girl, I love to see that shit in my yaoi/yuri WTV so this really does it for me TYYYY

    Drey May 22, 2026 9:02 pm

    Idk if the guy from here counts as an ugly Ike but if he does you should add it
    https://www.mangago.me/read-manga/i_wasn_t_trying_to_teach_you_this/

    miracle2415 May 22, 2026 10:08 pm
    Idk if the guy from here counts as an ugly Ike but if he does you should add it https://www.mangago.me/read-manga/i_wasn_t_trying_to_teach_you_this/ Drey

    Oh right! I completely forgot about this manhwa! The uke just had so much confidence that it didn't dawn on me that he would fit the critieria! But he definitely does! Thank you!

    miracle2415 May 22, 2026 10:10 pm
    I freakin love you.. you just opened so many hidden gems for me!! As a big girl, I love to see that shit in my yaoi/yuri WTV so this really does it for me TYYYY Cam

    You're welcome from a fellow big girl. ദദ ˉ꒳ˉ )✧

miracle2415 March 31, 2020 4:48 am

Covering the basic cliche, the straight uke has a terrible personality due to being spoiled but then after his parents passed away, he is put in debt because of his parents who passed away. He tries to run away from the debtors and ends up meeting the rich seme who pays it off which makes the uke in debt to the seme and he's allowed to pay it off by money or his body.

Key things I remember of the manga is that:

1. the seme used to date someone else who looked like he could be twins with the uke, and he's just as horrible.

2. The uke has a rich uncle who works at a farm, and could've helped the uke out, but then it burned down.

3. In the middle of that uncle sub-plot, uke lost his memories and reverted back into a child, and the seme took advantage of this to finally sleep with the uke and thankfully stopped himself.

4. In one extra, the uke commented that doing prostitution wouldn't be hard work, but after tending to the seme for hours, he realized he was wrong. Seme gave him a blank check, which would've helped the uke finally get out of debt, but in a moment of stupidity to act cool, he tore it apart. And then after he came back to his senses tried to piece it together.

It's a horrible manga, but the fact that I can't find it is frustrating so please help!

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