panda

why are you so proud liking rape brochacho

Exactly the people we’re talking about here

it was a genuine question. why are you so proud? elaborate. tell in detail what's so arousing abt seeing a character get raped. would you say what yall are saying with the same bravado if you're talking to real sa survivors? will you continue acting as if what you're saying and thinking isn't exactly the same as rape perpetrators?

its not real and has no effect on real people. i dont feel anything towards fictional characters compared to real people

Literally, it’s not that deep. Do you care about a character that gets stabbed and killed in a story? Should all stories with murder not be written? If I like murder movies does that mean I condone murder on real life. Jeezus. Same logic.

If I don’t like murder, I avoid it. If I don’t like romance, I don’t consume it. But you people continue to read and consume stories with themes you don’t like and then complain about it and shame others for enjoying it. Jeezus. On a pirating site nonetheless. But pretend to have some moral compass. Please.

its like these people dong understand the concept of dont like it dont read it and i have no clue why they feel the need to share their opinions to ppl just minding their business reading what they want

Honestly

you dont "feel anything" but you clearly have a preference towards non con/dub con? make it make sense. you guys act all morally intelligent, "separating fiction from reality". as if the people who end up becoming sa perpetrators didn't start from having their fantasies supported by the rape friendly media around them?

one day, you will inevitably come across someone experiencing a real sa situation and feel aroused because of the years of fictional rape romanticization you've read. it has happened with many and will again.

sure, be a weirdo in private, that's not a crime. but coming publicly, defending rape, being all righteous and proud as if you're no different than fedora wearing creeps is... something, to say the least.

by your logic people who are into cnc and bdsm are all going to become rapists right? yes i dont feel anything for these characters, i dont care if a story has rape in it or not but its just insufferable when im trying to read a story and see people getting mad over something that isnt even integral to the plot, if you dont like the story because it has rape you dont have tk announcement it

oh okay because i was wondering about your opinions on murder.

murder, that's usually portrayed as, "oh no, he died. that's terrible." vs "oh, he got raped, damn that's so hot." yeah, they're the same. sure!


is it that hard to answer my original question? what is it that you like about fictional rape that you're so eager to defend it?

if you don't wanna elaborate then don't reply anymore then. you'll just think of me as an idiot and ill think of you as a weirdo. no big deal. if you're so confident that what you're doing isn't wrong at all

bdsm is not inherently rape bro. what are you talking about.

cnc (rl) is rape PLAY. they are people who are into it and has decided on a healthy outlet.

this manhwa? straight up idealized rape porn. "something isn't integral to the plot"..??? now you're just insulting the author. this is... smut. smut is the plot. the MC's life changes because of the rape. dude, were you even comprehending what you're reading....

you're annoyed because people complaining. people are annoyed because more rape bl = normalization = normalization of rape. stop living in a bubble.

“Morally intelligent” Hahahaha! Who said we’re moral? We all have skeletons in the closet. We’re all reading on an illegal site for Christ sakes.

Oh so, you’re using the same logic that parents used against their kids who play shooter games. Parents use to think and some probably still do, they thought kids who play shooting games were more likely to also end up buying a gun and shooting people. Studies were done to show that wasn’t the case, AT ALL. Bro your logic is flawed and has no reliable studies to back it up. By that logic we should have tons of mass shooters everyday showing up on the news because they play shooter games. It doesn’t work that way.

Sick people exist. Shocker!

“ The evidence overall suggests that playing shooter or violent video games does not reliably predict whether someone will commit real-world gun crimes or mass violence.

Researchers have studied this question for decades because games like Call of Duty, Grand Theft Auto V, and Counter-Strike are extremely popular, yet actual violent crime rates do not rise in proportion to how many people play them.”


And no. I take rape and any serious crime in real life very seriously. And stop putting words in people’s mouths. NO ONE IS DEFENDING RAPE.

Bro what? So basically, rape is worse murder? So now, one crime is less than the other? Ok. The same could be said for murder by the way, some people are into that.

Worse comparison.

I’m not doing another wrong by consuming fictional stories that happen to have rape it in. So, no, I don’t think I’m doing anything wrong.

And I’ll say it again, I’m not defending rape. Never was and never will.

And I don’t enjoy rape per se. I like toxic stories and stories with power imbalances. And rape happens to show up in those types of stories. And I don’t mind it.

And the funny thing is, I’ve been reading BL Yaoi and BL Manhwa for 15 years now. BL has always had problematic themes. I’m numb to it man. I could come, and have, come across stories with themes more sick than the stuff I usually read. Do I complain? No. Do I argue with people in the comments that happen to read that stuff? No. What do I do? I simply leave and find something else.


Is arguing with me going to make me stop reading? No. Is it going to stop others? No.

Exactly why I don’t bother arguing with people over meaningless shit like you are. Just wasting your time and energy.

Should I explain why I like villainess stories too? How about murim manga/manhwa? How about why I hate dungeon shounen slop?

by your logic, people who are thieves can't hate rapists? okay.

you... are defending rape. you are annoyed with people complaining about rape. are you... not aware this manhwa has rape? well.

yall always bring up that same research about video games and guns. but what about how desensitized people is towards murders now? how many edgy people are there nowadays? sure, they don't translate to buying guns. but the mindset is clearly still influenced. you don't think so? you clearly are living in a bubble.

"sick people exist" okay. "i dont feel anything when i read it" okay? which one.


are you really certain there wont ever be a day you'll completely stop being disgusted by rape?

you're not the first person to swore this. you're not the first person to fail at that.

okay sure. keep going. you're clearly very pissed because i said you enjoy seeing rape victims, which you do, from my perspective. but you say you don't. very curious! clearly, you're the only one in denial about this, which i don't even understand why myself. just admit it, it's not that hard.

What you’re doing is the same as if I went to every BL story and complain about why there are so many twinks in BL and not more manly bottoms or some shit. And talk about lack of representation, when there are tons of stories with buff bottoms.

There are SO many BL and SHOUNEN AI that don’t have rape at all. Yet you seem to come and complain on the ones that do.

Imagine if I went to all the soft and fluffy stories and complain that there’s no real conflict or toxicity.

It would be absurd.

What me and panda is complaining about is this.

And if you’re going to come at me from the angle of, rake is bad. Then we should have ANY media that depicts murder, scamming, cheating, porn, etc either.

Typo correction: And if you’re going to come at me from the angle of, rape is bad. Then we shouldn’t have ANY media that depicts murder, scamming, cheating, porn, etc either.

dude. yes. rape is worse than murder. the victim still lives. they live affected by it everyday.

people who are into murder are still wrong... and they admit it themselves. at least they don't pretend they aren't like most people who like rape.

do you know why you don't think you're doing wrong? you said it exactly yourself. "I’ve been reading BL Yaoi and BL Manhwa for 15 years now. I’m numb to it man". "I don't mind it."

being numb doesn't mean you're doing something not wrong.

Rephrase it again, "I'm numb to seeing rape." "I don't mind seeing rape." Oh. Okay.

all im saying is you are in denial. rape is wrong. if you're so annoyed at me just saying that, doesn't that just say a lot about you?

and so many paragraphs from someone who says they don't care. well i do, that's why im still replying on my own volition? but you say you don't, yet you're still replying? on your own volition? why? what are you doing? just stop replying. no one is forcing you. if you don't like it, just leave, i mean, you're not in a rape situation clearly.

“ by your logic, people who are thieves can't hate rapists?”

What does that have to do with our conversation? So, you hate rapists? So, why are you arguing with us? Are you saying that people that remotely like this story are rapists themselves? Aahahahahah!

No we are not defending it. You have a right to feel the way that you do. But don’t condemn others for enjoying something you hate. You people always scream about how you hate a story for having rape and expect everyone to agree with you. When for some, it’s only a small aspect of the whole story that they like reading. That’s what we have an issue with. State you hate it and move on. Don’t attack people for liking it. What are you not getting?

You’re not baiting me into admitting anything

You’re just spewing a bunch of nothing

rape is the same as seeing a... body shape people are born with? interesting take.

"There are SO many BL and SHOUNEN AI that don’t have rape at all. Yet you seem to come and complain on the ones that do."

you want me to complain about rape on a story with no rape on it...? what are you talking about.

recommend me a story with people jerking off to scamming people then.

you really can't differentiate between "a story aspect" and "the writer's fetish" huh? that's just kinda sad.

I’m not going to engage with you anymore

But as for the paragraphs, this was my first message to you, “ Exactly the people we’re talking about here ”

You’re the one that came at me with a whole paragraph. I’m going to stand my ground.

Have a good one

im genuinely questioning your comprehension.
you brought up first how i, a piracy website user, aka. ....a thief is hypocritical for hating rape, didn't you...? please just go to sleep. you're making a fool out of yourself typing so many words in a rush.

"So, you hate rapists?"....? you dont?

"Are you saying that people that remotely like this story are rapists themselves?" i only said people who enjoy rape stories defend rape, not is inherently a rapist.

please. just sleep before you reply anymore. this is way too funny.

"No we are not defending it. " hahahaha? let's see, oh, you said "And rape happens to show up in those types of stories. And I don’t mind it." okay.

"When for some, it’s only a small aspect of the whole story that they like reading." Why? elaborate.

7+ replies and you've never elaborate why you "like" rape. you just say "don't mind it", but why are you so adamant on defending my "rape is bad?"


I hate rape. that's obvious. why would i beat around the bush like you people who like rape? im not moving on because its fun seeing you people be in denial for enjoying rape. it's really funny.

just say you like rape, and move on. why can't you?

Wow! finally you're taking your fingers off the keyboard! so proud.

you know, since in rape situations it's hard to leave. im so happy you are leaving whenever you can. you know, not many scenarios allow that!

so proud of you for never admitting you like rape when you clearly do!


Have a good one

Im not defending them but some people do have a roleplay rape fetish or something like that, they feel like they want to experience it but do not want that to happen to people who actually experience rape that inflicted harm to them? I dont have that fetish, but mostly from my observation thats how i see these people who reads this, personally i just read this for stories and boredness so yea

Rape fetish? Seriously. Jeezus. By the logic of you people, I must have a murder fetish if I like murder mystery. I’m losing brain cells with you people.

omg please use your brain. just bcs ppl enjoying non cont story doesn't mean they'll become a rapist in rl. it's just a fucking fiction. the characters aren't real

Im talking abt a specific group of people not yall, and yea it doesnt make them rapist irl but somehow view the story as for themselves and dive into pleasure with that, not u specifically, just noticing some people commenting here and other manga liking that. As for yalls case i guess you just view this story as fiction and just finds it midly amusing but do respect people who do experience rape irl, thats all

real bruh as if someone forcing them to read