Ngl, that manipulation is written brilliantly. It's a big rarity to see psychological manhwas where the author actually studies psychology and the human psyche
My god, I hated bato, but it's a real shame they canceled it, bcs now all the oversensitive, whining little cunts have flocked here to be fucking moral police Yeah, people are always complaining and bitching about something - SO WHAT? No one is sending Han death threats here or idk, but they're complaining on an illegal site where she'll never even see it lmaoooo So why are you going to be the moral police and patting each other on the back like fans of the novel don't deserve anything They deserve a better adaptation of s2 and it doesn't matter how much you argue here. There have been sooooo many problems with it from the beginnings s2- those are just facts and that's it. So stop fucking demonizing everybody who write comment where he's bitching about something omg
So people have actually been sending death threats on twitter which is indeed a site that han uses
Yeah and what's that have to do with mangago users? Like do you have any statistic saying that most of death threads are from users here? Excatly. People on twitter are crazy, but that has literally nothing with people commenting here that they don't like, idk, fact that Olga is grey now lmao
That’s not the point though , people pointing out olga looking grey fine most can probably agree yeah she does , it’s when people are constantly saying they think the art sucks , that han should be replaced keeping in mind it’s her job and the amount of hate people have spread it’s not like somebody else would wanna pick it up , people constantly complaining about hiatuses and seeming to forget that it’s for health reasons and try and call han lazy and people saying she’s not making the manhwa the same as the novel and that she’s the one doing it , mind you she’s the artist and all she does is draw she doesn’t make the ultimate decision in how chapters are . Pointing out that these types of comments are unnecessary isn’t being a moral police and I think it’s even more ironic that the same people saying all this stuff are the ones reading illegally , they aren’t even supporting han and yet feel comfortable enough to criticise literally her entire existence.
Like- I don't want to be a dick, but you come across exactly like a typical bato user lmao I mean, I don't think people really care why product sucks- they just care that it does suck. Yeah, yeah, ik people bitchin about it on an illegal site and blah blah blah, but so what, lmao? Have you or anyone else, for that matter, never in your life criticized something or someone you didn't directly support? That’s a really weak, pointless argument to make on a pirate site imho Look, if the art is shit, I’m gonna to say the art is shit; idc about some lecture on how it’s not *actually* shit just bcsthe artist bit off more than she could chew. People have always done this here, but lately, this pseudo-moral police force swarms anyone like a hive of bees, whining about how you aren't allowed to bitchin. And yeah, I’ve been also saying all along that she should be replaced, bcs this is just unnecessarily prolonging the suffering for all parties involved imho
What even is a typical bato user. If people care so much why they think it suck’s yet not acknowledge the actual reason why then im sorry but that’s just stupid. Asking if I’ve criticised something before yes infact I’ve criticised the fact that season 2 isn’t as strong as season 1. If people hate how the manhwa is being adapted so much why don’t they go pay for the officials on ridibooks and complain there where there’s a high chance the team might see it and do something about it. You thinking the art is shit is entirely subjective to you. I also don’t get the whole moral police thing because we are currently in a comment section of a toxic story with very taboo actions in but you think people are trying to be morally superior by getting on at people criticising and complaining. You can want han to be replaced but i still think it’s very ignorant to say and even if she is replaced and they get someone new , what happens if the manhwa is still shit and people start complaining about the art. Changing the artist isn’t going to magically make the manhwa a better adaptation.
And also criticising how the manhwa is , nobody’s stopping you but you say people are bitching about those who do and complain isn’t the entirety of it. People are bitching about people who are being outright horrible towards han to the extent of sending threats and saying very aggressive things towards her and just being outright rude
I agree so much with you, some just don't really care for the reasons or why this is happening. They just want to go here and argue, make rude comments, and go about their day.
Typical bato user? Yk, the kind of person who is able to write you a paragraph about why you can't use the word retarded or something like that lmao
Yeah, usually when someone is upset about something, he's gonna pay for it Quick TLDR: my whole point is that I'm tired of people not being able to freely rant here without being morally lectured about something. I recommend reading those comments, bcs yes, they are written by people who want to play the moral superior on a pirate site (ex-bato users ahh thing). And no, they don't argue with people who are aggressive towards Han, bcs there is literally no one like that here lmao People complain about 3 main things: art, hiatuses and adaptation. I already wrote that even if someone wanted to, there's no way to send her death threats through mangago, so I would ask you not to mix people from twitter here.
As for changing the artist- we can argue about whether it would improve the adaptation or not, but we literally have an equal chance of whether it will or not. No one knows, so I'll stick to my opinion and you can keep yours
‘Typical bato user’ I think any normal person would say you probably shouldn’t randomly drop an ableist slur
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Don’t waste your breath on a misogynist who just hangs around comment sections looking to insult women (just look at his the boundary of delusion
comments) and pick fights :) you're not going to get good-faith reasoning from him. I see him in the comments here all the time and all he's capable of is hate.
Another bato ahh user with random tiktok buzzwords such as misogynist (I never ever mention something about women here btw) Everything I ever wrote I can argue about w no problem. But thnx for stalking my profile ig
Your comment on the boundary of delusion literally says 'I know that you shouldn't expect much from women who read yaoi'. But I can't really argue with someone who has a probable cognitive deficit so stay delusional :) You probably don't even know what ableist is (go google it and show off) so it's hard to so it's hard to expect any semblance of coherent thought from you. Have a good day and I hope you'll never get that epilogue for Second Skin I saw you begging for while I was indeed snooping through your comment history :)
No literally, that’s quite a retarded take considering a huge chuck of BL is illustrated by woman, people just be saying shit outta their ass
“People don’t care why the product sucks, they just care that it sucks” okay so basically you’re proudly admitting that context means absolutely nothing to you That explains a lot actually. Nobody is saying you have to love the adaptation or shut up about criticism. People are literally explaining WHY certain criticisms are being pushed back on. There’s a massive difference between “I don’t like the art this chapter” and repeatedly saying Han should be replaced, that she bit off more than she could chew, that she’s prolonging everyone’s suffering, etc. while conveniently ignoring that she’s been dealing with health problems and that the artist isn’t even the person solely responsible for the storyboarding, scripting, pacing, and adaptation decisions. But sure, context is irrelevant because “the product sucks”
And how the fuck are you so sure that the people commenting here are completely separate from the people on Twitter? Do Mangago users magically lose access to Twitter the moment they open an illegal site? Like be serious. You keep saying “that has nothing to do with Mangago users” as if you have some fucking statistic proving that none of the people here also have Twitter accounts where they can go harass Han, throw profanities at her, or send her death threats. You don't know that. Nobody here claimed every single person complaining is responsible for what happened on Twitter. And yes, I KNOW this is an illegal site, I know we're reading illegally, and nobody needs to sit here pretending we're morally superior because of that. Han probably isn't even going to see half the shit people say here. But that doesn't magically erase the fact that the person you're bitching about is still a PERSON, a literal breathing human being who has been dealing with health issues. Posting your complaints on an illegal site doesn't suddenly make disrespecting someone going through health problems any less disrespectful. You can criticize the fucking manhwa without forgetting there's an actual human being behind the work.
Also the whole “I don’t care why it sucks, I just care that it sucks” mentality is exactly why your argument keeps going in circles. If you genuinely care about the adaptation being better, then why would the reasons behind its problems suddenly become irrelevant? A lot of you clearly don't even understand how the manhwa adaptation process works. Han is the artist, she isn't the person single-handedly deciding how every chapter is storyboarded, directed, paced, colored, edited, or which details from the novel get included or cut. There are separate people and assistants responsible for the storyboards, panels, direction and flow, color shading, contrasts, panel editing, etc., and you can literally see their names credited in the very last panel of the every chapter starting from the S2. So when people keep bitching about missing details, shitty color shading, inconsistent quality, rushed flow, or the adaptation not following the novel properly, maybe stop automatically throwing all of that at Han when she isn't even the person making those decisions. She's working from the storyboard and production process GIVEN to her. If you want to criticize the adaptation, then at least understand WHO is actually responsible for the specific thing you're bitching about, otherwise you're literally blaming the artist for shits that aren't her job in the first place. And considering she's already been dealing with health issues and has had to take multiple hiatuses, watching her get harassed over shit that isn't even under her control is honestly fucking ridiculous. You can dislike the adaptation all you want, but at least direct the criticism toward the people actually responsible for those aspects instead of acting entitled and treating Han like she's personally responsible for every single problem in the production.
If you want to rant, fucking rant, nobody is taking your keyboard away, but other people are equally allowed to call out your rant when it turns into entitled bullshit. “I’m allowed to criticize” does not magically mean “everyone else has to shut up when they criticize me back.” That’s literally how a public comment section works.
Very beautifully said. Thank you
I recommend learning to read, bcs as far as I know, we're talking about CNA, not that boundary shit, and I didn't say anything about women here, so it literally has nothing to do with it, retard And don't worry, I already have that epilogue
Tldr
Well good for you, begging people obviously worked for you. Thanks for proving my point about ableism in under one sentence. Have the day you deserve ;)
Nevermind then, not wasting another second explaining basic context to an entitled immature ass with a low level of intelligence loudly bitching while reading illegally. Just keep barking then.
Yeah, I'm having nice day, thanks
Ofc that chapter3am retard blocked me Excatly that type of whinning little cunt as I wrote about lmao
Damn, someone really did her homework with learning how a dick looks like and how to draw it
Like I get what she meant by saying "lmao it's my art, I'm gonna draw it like I want", but using argument that guy should be looking like 36 years old- then give him wrinkles, not ozempic cure
He looks like HE just got out of the pit
Real
Quite a good story. At first I didn't want to read it bcs Hajun looked terrible at the beginning lmao But I'm glad I continued. Too bad it starts to get pretty cheesy at the end - especially Hajun's "self-sacrifice" and their sex everywhere. Like Candy is supposedly the best agent, but he can't prioritize the mission over sex??? Especially in that mansion, I wanted to slam my head to wall from their stupidity. As I mentioned, the "self-sacrifice" was so cheesy and unnecessary that I rolled my eyes. Hajun knows/suspects that Candy is a fucking capable agent, but he, as an INCOMPETENT CIVILIAN, goes into the hands of such dangerous people and even voluntarily gives them what Candy has been protecting all this time??? Well, he would have deserved at least a finger less for this stupidity. Oh, and I don't understand the korean obsession with the main couple always somehow knowing each other as children lmao And I probably won't even go into the fact that their love for life and death came about within a month or two of meeting each other:Dd Overall, it's a good story, but I probably would have enjoyed it more if I hadn't come here after reading Bad Apple, where I enjoy Uno and Enzo much more.
Let s2 finally end and let s3 have change of artist, bcs this is just a pain for all parties imho Throughout s2 it is obvious that Han can't handle it, which is why the whole of s2 is really terribly adapted. The art style has also completely changed (for the worse and I'm not gonna to talk about it), so it doesn't matter if it would change again bcs someone else worked on it. Let Han finally have the peace she deserves and let the readers get a better adaptation. And for the retards who can't understand 2+2: I'M NOT CRITICIZING HAN FOR NOT BEING ABLE TO DO IT OR THAT SHE'S CLEARLY OVERWORKED. And yes, I'm writing this critisism on a pirate site, so what now lmao I can express my opinion anywhere
I completely agree with you.. they should change the artist..
Same I loved season 1 so much and season 2 is so ..meh . I was so so excited for zhenya choking teakjo scene because I heard a lot about it from novel lovers. I was so disappointed because this was hyped up so much.
I went into this thinking it was fun to turn off your brain, but I haven't seen such a braindead bottom in a while And overall, that 5 or so chapters in toilets were extremely about nothing and I skipped it after the first one. But the story of the brother and sister was nice
Does anyone have access to raws? And plz don't write that it's on mr.blue, bcs age verification is required there and I don't have the nerve or the desire to do that
The age verification is very easy on mr.blue plus theres a free coupon rn so you'd be able to read the Epilogue chapter for free.
you can always just wait 4 the translation if you dont have the desire to support the artist unless you need the raws asap
It's not that I don't want to support the artist, it's that I don't have desire to deal with a site that asks me for some of my personal information to get to drawn gay porn lmao
Yeah, bu it's not about simplicity, it's about that I'm not going to give my data to some random korean site lmao Not to mention that there's verification through some korean apps, which (very shockingly) I don't have and don't plan to have
in that case all you can do is wait 4 the translation like most readers here
If it was about translate, then I would wait, but I wanna raws, that's why I'm asking for them not for translate
just so u know, if u want raw chapters, u usually have to support the platform or wait patiently like everyone else (´-ω-`) calling mr blue a sketchy site is a bit dramatic. countless overseas fans verify there safely every day. the verification doesn’t steal ur priv info at all if u actually check how the process works. there's no shame in admitting u simply don't want to spend money or bother with the effort, but expecting others to take the steps and pay out of pocket just to hand it to u is a little silly, don't u think? (• ω •)
Should I send you a link to my japanese library where I have mangas bcs I want to support the author?',:^| I didn't say steal priv info anywhere, but I refuse to give my number or name even to sites in my country, not a site where I have to rely on google translate to make sure I don't accidentally write my soul to the devil somewhere lmao (joke btw) And please, we are literally on a pirate site and there is always someone spending money here to steal the original material for the rest of the people, so kinda silly thing to say
Did you found it?
Nope:/
pity :(
I get an idea :D if you're looking for raws try other languages. I remember Russians fan sites have lots of translations I just cannot remember the title of the site :D
Such a shame how bad is adaptation of s2. Idk, I still think changing the artist would be best for every party involved. And not just bcs of worse art (don't even try argue about that w me, I'm not gonna react anymore), but mainly bcs how much of important things and EMOTIONS are cut. Real shame
I agree it’s way too fast paced
Big picture stuff is the same but the emotional tone and narration is way too different it’s changing the impact of the story and character development :( before I read the novel I kept seeing people discussing how manhwa Zhenya feels significantly more cruel than novel Zhenya. Turns out they are right ;_;
did u read the novel? what was cut?
Is it just me or art is kinda off? And Guwon doesn't looks like... Guwon?
Ikr ╥﹏╥ He is no longer manly, scary and buff to look at
He definitely looks different. I still like it though. ╮(￣▽￣)╭