I come to the comments after a long while and see a bunch of AI accusations. Frankly speaking, tf are y'all talking about?? Like genuinely, I believe some of you just noticed the smallest inconsistencies with the art style (which, btw, is somewhat normal to happen, saying this as an artist myself) (ie. eyes being slightly different sizes in different panels), decided to accuse the comic as AI, and a bunch of others just joined the bandwagon.
I admit that one panel in ch 50 was odd (the one with the doctors and the younger brother), but other than that, I'm highly doubtful with the statement that the doctors might've been done with AI. Just as well they could've been drawn by an assistant and the style changed even more.
The thing is, the art style of the series has always been just a bit odd and occasionally off/inconsistent. Proportions change slightly depending on situations and expressions (ie. eye size), the characters are a bit stiff, and the series does a lot more telling than it does showing. This has *always* been a thing, it's not particularly new to the latest season/chapters. It's also not odd at all for the art style to have some minor changes between seasons, especially for this one, which has always been a bit inconsistent. Personally I think the art style improved a bit for the second season, it doesn't feel as stiff as before.
Frankly, I didn't read all the new chapters in one go to analyze them, just checked out the few specific ones I saw mentioned in the comments. Besides that one single panel in chapter 50, I don't agree with the people spouting AI accusations just like that. Sometimes things are just weird, humans make mistakes too, humans can also be inconsistent - lt's something I noticed for this series long ago.
If you can point out the specifics of why you think they're using AI besides "I got a feeling, things look a bit strange" (ie. Specific chapters, specific panels, specific things that are the reason why you think this), please do let me know! I'd be happy to take another look, and hopefully prove you wrong, or be proven wrong myself and join the disappointed-in-the-artist gang. I'm just a bit annoyed with how it seems some people started these accusations and the rest think they're correct because of that, when there has been no confirmation in one way or another as far as I'm aware of.
Check out how mc's gloves change in 47 & 57. My Ai suspicions are from little things like that where if someone was drawing it, glove length would be part of character design and glaringly obvious, but if an artist was assisting their art w AI and just doing a QA check on it, it would slip by. I don't think they are using generative ai to make this comic, but I do think they are supplementing their art with it
So in this recent chapter (69, nice) the MC wonders about the seal when they're in fresh water... actually, there are species of seal that live in fresh water instead of sea water! I know of one for certain, which is the Saimaa Ringed Seal, which lives in the fresh waters of Lake Saimaa in Finland. They've been endangered in the past, I'm not sure what their status is right now, but yeah. Would insert a picture if I was able to, feel free to look them up yourselves if you're curious :D
I love random knowledge, thank you <3
Oh wow, I didnt even know Finland had seals at all! The pics are the cutest!
Did the maths, p simple so should be correct.
So we have 403,930,291,928,494 hours divided by 24 to get the amount of days --> 16,830,428,830,354 days divided by 364 to get the years --> 46,237,441,841.632 years.
I get it might be just a nonsensically high number, but whenever stories present these types of telling of time (ie. amount of hours but like, an absurb number almost) I just like to go and convert them into days/years just to get a better idea on the actual lenght of time and the like xd ie. if a character is stuck inside a time loop, I find it fun to do the maths and figure out how long altogether it was for them.
Woah thats actually so cool you did allat??
To start things off, I have not read the novel myself. I'm simply putting a spoiler warning since my comment has to do with them.
I remember ages ago commenting here something about Hoyeol and Granfell + their worlds being connected, wondering if Grandfell is truly only Hoyeol's creation as he says, but instead they share some other cross-dimensional bond (ie. via souls) that allows their fusion to be what it is. I just remember someone replying to me ans saying nope, Hoyeol did create all of Granfell's stuff. Could someone shine some light on it?
I personally hope there is more specialty to it, as if Arcana the game was supposedly so popular, no way was Hoyeol the only cringe teen doing the 'epic and cool' OC stuff.
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Nope, Hoyoel did NOT create Granfel. Granfel is an Arcanian that Hoyeol simply documented, but he didn't/couldn't document everything, because in the novel it was explicitly shown the Hoyeol didn't know everything Abt Granfel.
Also if you're reading the novel pack some tissues and be ready to cry. For some reason comedy just can't stay comedy
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Damn okay! Thank you for telling me this, I was so disappointed by the other comment ages ago ╥﹏╥ tbh seeing you use the word document, maybe there was a translation misunderstanding happening there.
Do we know of the are others from Hoyeol's world who documented Arcanians? Or did all players do that? (Makes me think of the scene where the barbarians from Arcana recognised the red-headed barbarian player) is there then a specific reason as to why it seems like only Hoyeol and Granfel are the way they are? (Ie. Granfel's personality kind of taking over, them being connected but still separate)
Answering your questions:
As far as I know there are no other players that documented arcanians other than hoyeol.
The reason the guys at frost recognized teamin is because back when arcana was a game he spent a lot of time with the "NPC's" and built relationships with them.
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The reason Grandfell and Hoyeol are the way they are is because of two reasons:
1. The others assimilated with theirs avatars in game is because they are AVATARS, they have no other identity. But as I've said Grandfell isn't an avatar he's an arcanian with his own life and backstory.
2. This one is pretty big and complicated (you have to experience it on your own) so I won't say it, but them being in one body is actually Grandfell's wish. He did it to save Hoyeol.
Oh shit okay!! Thanks for answering all my questions. I have the novel saved, so when I'm able to, I'll definitely give it a read ^^
You got an Epub? If so can you share ? I've been searching so long for an Epub of this novel
Uhhh I'm guessing you mean english publishing maybe? The one I have, I happened to stumble upon it while seeing what other series (comics) they had on utoon.net, I haven't tried reading it yet so I don't know how it is ^^;
I thought that Lee hoyeol is his reincarnation or something
So they really 2 different people
So will they in one body forever?
No, they'll seperate in the future
So lee hoyeol will no longer have granfell power?
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No he will still have his levels and abilities as those were not Grandfells. Grandfell has a seperate ability which Hoyeol accesses through [Celestial Infant Solitude] that is the power that yuder will no longer have
So hoyeol hair color will no longer white? And his real personality will back?
The name that has been translated as "Sauri", I believe "Sauli" might be more accurate.
My reasons are
1) I know Japanese doesn't really have separate sounds for R/L the same way English does, which is why they can get mixed up; and
2) this manga already has names that are Finnish - ie. Mikkola & Merikanto are both Finnish surnames (and Orva's surname, 'Makarainen' sounds like a Finnish word for this tiny insect (mäkäräinen) + '-nen' is also a common ending for a surname). "Aini" is def more Japanese-sounding, but I'd like to mention that "Aino" is a super common female name in Finland. "Sauli" is also a relatively common name for a man here, which is why I could see it being the correct answer as to if the letter is supposed to be R or L.
Otherwise I might attribute it to the translator's choises on how they spell the names in English, but considering how many other names there are that are so Finnish, I don't think it's a coincidence at that point, but likely the author's intent/source of inspiration ╮(￣▽￣)╭
Hhhgh, I can see potential in this but the way the visual artist is trying to tell the story just... feels off. They clearly are not used to drawing this kind of genre, and it really shows. They also seem inexperienced considering just how much telling they're doing instead of showing (tbf this is an issue with a lot of webtoons, ppl seem to barely know how to use panels without any words to tell you what the characters might be thinking/feeling), and it just makes it feel like there's a constant chatter in the story with no breaks - especially at the beginning chapters.
It kinda sucks. I think this has interesting elements to it, but the art style just feels off-putting for this story and genre specifically, and it made many parts feel boring even. If this was a typical apocalypse story, the important side characters would be drawn with more personality for recognition, but instead they all look the same - just a background NPC who isn't a main character so it doesn't matter if they all look the same. Boo!
The framing of many panels are quite boring as well, and there's a lack of dynamics in it (poses, framing, etc). This would be fine if this was just a high school romance story, but it's not. I think another artist would've been much better to bring visual interest to this story, as it currently lacks that. At the very least, I hope this artist learns and improves quickly.
I don't want to call every single "robotic" character who strictly follows the rules and can be both perceptive and/or dense about social stuff autistic but also like... as one myself, can't help but see the past me in beom like the whole noticing your feelings but not being able to place them, thinking they're something else, "this is how x supposed to be no?" NOT SURE IF I'M EXPLAINING IT RIGHT but yeahhh his inner thoughts are soo similar to my past self (with my first crush in my late teens). Except I've always enjoyed reading romance since I was a child so like. I had an idea. But it still took me over half a year to realise what it was (and few months before I realised I even had the thought "i wanna kiss her" and just went "????" in my head, like i can't make this up it was bad).
Anyway yeah lol. Fuck the abuse pos ex, fuck taehyun's brother, lowkey fuck beom's parents ╮(￣▽￣)╭
Damn, I really hope they can become a family. Even if MC's almost an adult, having people older than you be in a similar position to and show similar care to parents, is important no matter the age. Or well, not important in the sense that it's mandatory, but important that it's awesome if someone has that support system.
Maybe not close enough to be exactly "family", but still close and in friendly terms. That'd be really nice for all of them, I think.
Anyone else autistic/AuDH and heavily relating to Demetrius/Damian's brother rn?
The whole thing of struggling to connect with your feelings, thinking with logic first instead of feeling the emotions, asking about things he doesn't know because he wants to know and understand, despite struggling to do so. And trying to use your own experiences as a guideline as to how you should act in certain situations (ie. Huggging and trying to pat Damian on his back to comfort him), or thinking something doesn't make sense for him to do so he won't do it (but if it's explained well enough that it does make more sense, he'll at least give it a try).
Like ofc there has to be trauma involved and I really don't want to stereotype these kinds of characters/characters with these characteristics a certain way, but man I can't help but relate to Demi a lot rn. It's also the whole "older sibling who isn't close with their younger sibling(s) and they don't really understand each other" that hits close to home for me personally. Ough. Just curious if anyone else cared/noticed the same thing (￣∇￣")