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    aidan February 28, 2024 6:53 am

    i can’t lie i can’t even think of any yaoi with no sa or rape which is honestly sad

    Ymir February 28, 2024 8:24 pm

    • within your frame
    • home
    • black blood (this story is a big green flag the couple talk about their feelings and it's really good you must get used to the artstyle tho)
    • 1 to 10
    • our sunny days (my fav from this list it's really cute 1000000/10 I totally recommend sweet couple + cute baby)

    Ichigo March 1, 2024 11:46 pm
    i can’t lie i can’t even think of any yaoi with no sa or rape which is honestly sad aidan

    right... they're so far and few in between it's truly sad!

HopelessRomantic November 5, 2023 6:44 pm

Because of the white eyelashes and violet eyes.

It kinda turns me off that the woman is extremely pale but the guy can be tan. Just reinforces gender stereotypes kinda

    dingdonger November 5, 2023 11:01 pm

    Not to mention they made the dark skin characters descendants of literal beasts with animalistic tendencies… Korean authors need some cultural awareness training lol

    YuzukiMikage November 6, 2023 6:23 am

    Fr, it feels like 2009 again with that plotline. Kinda icks m

    Daehwa November 6, 2023 6:24 am
    Not to mention they made the dark skin characters descendants of literal beasts with animalistic tendencies… Korean authors need some cultural awareness training lol dingdonger

    Hng.. but tanned beast look so HANDSOME tho. And it kinda reflect their homeland. They lived in a desert so we can't expect the beast to have pale white skin, no? And in Asia long ago have the stereotypes that people with tanned skin work the hardest. Hehe maybe dats all from me. Tell me ur opinion too! Tata

    Strawberry November 6, 2023 9:50 am
    Hng.. but tanned beast look so HANDSOME tho. And it kinda reflect their homeland. They lived in a desert so we can't expect the beast to have pale white skin, no? And in Asia long ago have the stereotypes that ... Daehwa

    Bro you're SO REAL FOR THIS. I'm asian and my cousin is tanner than me. My grandma always said that he's tanner because he works harder than me. Like Bro HE'S A SOFTWARE ENGEENER. NOT A FARMER WORKING HARD UNDER THE SUN WHA-. Shes like- "oh he would've worked under the sun in his past life" ╥﹏╥

    dingdonger November 6, 2023 11:02 am
    Hng.. but tanned beast look so HANDSOME tho. And it kinda reflect their homeland. They lived in a desert so we can't expect the beast to have pale white skin, no? And in Asia long ago have the stereotypes that ... Daehwa

    I see your view as well, all I’m saying is based on these fantasy manhwas that I’ve read, lighter skin characters are portrayed as “normal” but darker skinned ones are always “exotic”, which becomes a bit old, there are a few exceptions to this trope of course

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HopelessRomantic February 25, 2024 5:35 am

Before, I sorta didn’t mind that rape often happens in Yaoi bc it sorta anyways happens in straight smut. But I also feel bad how gay ppl must feel that we romanticize rape of bl characters. It’s just uncommon for yaoi to make it natural to lead up to it so authors use rape as an excuse to maybe strangers/friends who’ve been platonic for a long time suddenly change their dynamic

    Grell February 25, 2024 5:55 am

    but that doesnt mean that sa in bl is okay just bc it happens in straight manga too. sa shouldn't be a tool to get characters together. that's bad writing.

    HopelessRomantic February 25, 2024 6:25 am
    but that doesnt mean that sa in bl is okay just bc it happens in straight manga too. sa shouldn't be a tool to get characters together. that's bad writing. Grell

    Yes I know that but why is literally every single yaoi about a seme forcing themselves on an uke? I do feel guilty but I can’t find yaoi without it

    levipleasecallmeback February 25, 2024 6:46 am
    but that doesnt mean that sa in bl is okay just bc it happens in straight manga too. sa shouldn't be a tool to get characters together. that's bad writing. Grell

    this was answered by op already, but the post is talking about how it’s a common and almost unavoidable event in yaoi and they became used to it… not that it should continue or be okay? the main focus was how op feels bad that for bl there’s barely normal and lighthearted romance compared to straight romances. because yaoi authors for some reason decide to randomly throw SA in sooner or later

    it was a good critique on the state of bl, but you kinda jumped the gun there

    nanak4tasukete February 25, 2024 8:22 am

    oh bud just keep scrolling thru the Yaoi category, you'll find consensual soon enough. i think noncon is only about half the stuff in the genre, noncon kissing/touching included. which is still an uncomfortable phenomenon, but my point is that there's plenty of BL that's not like that out there. a lot of it is slowburn tho so u could easily just check the Shounen Ai category.
    my faves are I Ship My Rival x Me and Monster and the Beast (altho sorry that one starts w a sex scene that was initally consensual but turned into rape)

    nanak4tasukete February 25, 2024 8:56 am
    oh bud just keep scrolling thru the Yaoi category, you'll find consensual soon enough. i think noncon is only about half the stuff in the genre, noncon kissing/touching included. which is still an uncomfortable... nanak4tasukete

    OH how could i forget dekoboko sugar days. honestly anything by atsuko yusen is really good

    Pika February 25, 2024 9:03 am

    Idk..I feel like some of the non con stuff is so unrealistic sometimes it just doesn’t feel as wrong since the author normally intends for it to come across a different. Though, when the rape is actually there to genuinely make the reader uncomfortable I can’t get through it.

    levipleasecallmeback February 25, 2024 9:49 am
    oh bud just keep scrolling thru the Yaoi category, you'll find consensual soon enough. i think noncon is only about half the stuff in the genre, noncon kissing/touching included. which is still an uncomfortable... nanak4tasukete

    there was good intent to this but in yaoi, rape and sa is prevalent!! it’s not that consent doesn’t exist within it, it’s that this trope is seeped in most of them

    you’re right about shounen ai, but it’s a different genre of bl not yaoi. also i laughed at your disclaimer at the end of your recommendation, you too couldn’t escape your fav from having sa

    Grell February 25, 2024 9:07 pm

    there is bl without sa in it you just have to actually look for it, like with any other type of romance. of course you might become desensitized to some things in stories or lower your standards so you can read something, im guilty of that too, but i don't think we should let authors of bl and otehr romance get away with using sa as a device

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