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Seriously you’re right though you would think with all of the abuse and trauma that the MC has been through especially with the ML. He would see the patterns and be different at least that’s kind of what his character development seems like they’re trying to do but they don’t do it.

Exactly! It baffles me how he actively ignores all signs when it comes to that psycho dude.

don't call cinnamon roll dumb ,huh(๑•ㅂ•)و✧

I’m sorry but he ain’t the brightest

And he’s supposed to be a grown ass man be real.. ofc never on no hater shit either love the character just wish the author would write him better…smh

I would have if I wasn't frustrated with how dumb the dude is.

Cinnamon roll for everyone other than Seungeon.

Seriously if Jiwook wasn't such an idiot, this sorry yaoi would've ended up ages ago! He wouldn't have gone through all these shit of being ganraped either; he wouldn't have suffered this much had he let Seungeon helps him. He was gangraped because he had more faith in these loansharks than the ML, ran away and then got raped multiple times by these trahes! Not so many BL manhwas infurates me as much as this one because of this brainless Uke. All this because the guy has a surdimentional and displaced ego; damn I hate him so much for that. Plus since he doesn't age, it looks like he doesn't learn anything from all this. This story likes to go in circles. I dropped this and don't regret.

you mean that psycho hyung seo also cinnamon roll (⊙…⊙ )no way(╯°Д °)╯╧╧

Means he's kind to everyone other than Joo Seungeon.

Same girl same. I would like to advice seme to leave him. He ain't worth wasting time.
Pride pride Pride , this man at the bottom of food chain keep rambling about Pride.
I don't get from where he get this Everest level self esteem. When he has nothing. Funny thing is it is only for Joo Seungeon .
Self destructive lad.

Yes, he's completely self destructive.
He must've gotten this surdimentional pride from when he was a good student during their high school days; when he thought he could become a lawer (do you remember?). Anyway, I can only think of that reason, but that was such a long time ago, since then he's only been in a dirt poor and messy situation! Even what happened with these trahes of the factory doesn't alert him about danger when that psycho approachs him again. He never learns!! I dropped all hope in him.
I'm going cause' I'll wasted my remaining neurons over this manhwa and I don't want that. See you elsewhere ヾ(❀╹◡╹)ﾉ~

What I'll say could be debatable. But its usually the very rich or poor people have very touchy self esteem. I have noticed this. Rich means 2nd generations and beyond usually not first.
Because they have everything. Money, fame , luxuries.
And for poor , because they have nothing other than that. You'll notice people with no money or less amount of money get triggered easily. Even I faced it irl. They either shout,hurl abuses,get physical,or show tantrums when things don't go according to them. Even when you're talking nicely to them. Some fragile ego ?
On the other hand persons who are in between generally seems more tolerant to me . Easy to talk to.
Jiwook fit in 2nd category.

***This is my personal opinion , my perspective. (Sorry need to mention that otherwise someone start cursing my whole 7 generations )

By the way thank you for giving me new word to learn 'surdimentional' . Learning new vocabulary is my thing.

Definitely see you elsewhere.*0/*

Na, I think you might be right on this. I see why you mention the 2nd generation and beyond for the very rich. They must have that touchy self esteem because they're rich but didn't do much to get there, so they'll need to be loud to prove their value. They can also be the ones who waste all the money and heritage left by their parents/grandparents...
And the very poor, because these ones also have everything left to do and prove their value. They can nourish an inferiority complex as well as a more than necessary ego to keep them going... Anyhow, it's never too good to be extreme in a way or the other.
To have 0 self esteem and living a life or beggar isn't good either.

3d generation of rich people can also live a life of beggar; they beg their parents for money :'D

Uke is awful. I agree OP. He’s caused so much pain for everybody for no damn reason

no they're lover before and sweet sweet (they two sweet sweet together).joo seung on apart from him raped min ji wook and asked him to sucked his dick he is good actually.

Elaborate why he's the dumbest bottom, when he's been suffering since high school. Are u dumb?

I ain't dumb but you are dumb for asking me this question even after reading this manhwa for sure. I'm not going to waste my time in writing down why he is a dumb ass character however someone down there explained it on point so I will quote them instead.


While I completely understand and sympathize with what Jiwook has been through... he's partially responsible and to be blamed for his circumstances. He's the epitome of a self-sabotaging self-destructive person! I feel like he looks for problems even if there isn't any. constantly led by his insecurities, but kept blaming Seongeon because it's always easier to point fingers at someone else. Had feelings for him but wouldn't admit it and acted like he hated him instead. playing a constant push and pull game, never able to make up his mind. Always acts and says the opposite of what he feels. I absolutely do not condone some of Seongeon's actions, violence, or his approach half the time.. but I feel like Jiwook's behavior from the very beginning is what caused the start of their never-ending issues and toxic relationship. He's never been honest! so I'm glad that they finally went their seperate ways... but now he needs protecting ughh

now blondie is a full-fledged psychopath, and Jiwook is just ignoring all the red flags with no sense of danger whatsoever meanwhile Seongeon could simply be breathing and minding his own business but he'd be ready to jump his throat any chance he gets

this is by the user ichigo

Couldn't agree more. His pride is too overbearing. He could easily tell Seung-eon his problem, but the only thing he could think of is his effin pride.

Ikr! Bruh

Dumb people over here still blaming the victim. Dumb fck brain dead, he got raped and you think he's self-sabotaging. Like, stfu you clearly don't understand Jiwook's suffering. You and the other person lmao

He's obviously mentally ill and still blaming him and his pride? Oh lord hoping you won't experienced irl all his suffering esp the raping

Listen dude I have no interest in arguing with ya over a fcking fictional character. No amount of what you say gonna change my opinion of him as a character, so leave me be and take your character analysis to somewhere else.

Also kindly stop harrassing irl people over their opinion on fictional characters it's disgusting af. This is a fiction for fcks sake. Now get the fck out of my mentions!

No interest and here you are continue arguing with me. If you can't take it get out on this site. shut up.

I'm arguing with ya? You dumb idiot you came at me under my reply calling me names not the other way around. If you have no interest then stfu and go cry somewhere else instead of harassing others over their opinions.

Can't agree more

shut up ,don't call cinnamon roll dumb .he is victim you know .how dare you said that to a victim

Main commentor I agree with you completely.
I too think min jiwook harbours unnecessary hate for Joo Seungeon (or inferiority complex?).
Joo Seungeon can take all his bullshit. He's like his emotional trashcan , and he's aware of that too. Why don't we see him lashing out at his roommate? Why don't we see him lashing out at that Psycho dentist when he clearly invaded his personal space? If it was Seungeon he would have already slapped him.
He started his hunger strike because he knows seme will relent.

Min jiwook got so many chances. I can point 3 out .
First during high school days when he came to know about his father's debts. Seungeon offered his help. He could have taken his help , then slowly repaid it .

Second , when Seungeon abducted him . At this point he already got raped n number of times , when he worked at that Suburban factory for a whole month . Reason pay was good . Couldn't he would have worked at City with a decent pay ? Its not like his situation improved after working at that Shady factory.
Seungeon asked him to go to foreign together to study. He rejected him. He could have gone , studied , then paid his Debt. Point is Joo already cleared his Debt at that point.
My brother in Christ ran away. Ps I highly condemn rape section here.

Third, this time he himself was forced to come on his own two feets to Seungeon. Things were getting better but brother flipped after seeing Seme's engagement broadcast.
This time Seungeon was wrong to hide it but later he did say to leave everything and come with him. Dude went on hunger strike. For what? For Seungeon's future ofcourse.
Didn't bother to ask him whether he wants this GOOD FUTURE or not.

This is the fourth time, he's still playing push and pull. Enjoying that dentist company. Even after going through this much his instincts still doesn't function properly.

If I was Joo Seungeon's advisor I would advise him to say far away from this man. This man ain't happy himself neither he can make you happy. He'll keep spiralling in his own self loathing and destructive Pride personality.

Min jiwook is victim I'm not denying that , I'll never deny that. He suffered a lot , he's entitled to get his happy healthy ending.

People often forget that when they flip a coin there's only one side they could see not the hidden one . But that doesn't mean hidden side ain't there. It has its own existence although worthless, Living in shadow still present.
Min jiwook is victim. Every one can see but what about his hidden actions which led him here?
Time to contemplate. :-)
Peace

Stfu lmao

Award of the dumbest Uke from me too. Sorry but not sorry, he really deserves it at this point.

When will finish this story? Maybe in 100 years? Cause Ji wook still has a long way to go to be the stubborn idiot, blind by his unecessary pride that he is since he's 17. I'll need to go because this manhwa gives me headaches already...

Nice that you put some evidences of his self-sabotaging, people need to know or reminding them clearly. Good job (〜￣△￣)〜

This thing already lost its appeal to me . I'm here coz have been reading it since its beginning.
Now just want a closure ╥﹏╥

Its Not me it's my frustrations talking.

Surely because we're masochist, at this point... ╥﹏╥

Now that you say

I said this story is shit.. but man the art and those smut scenes be feeding my horny ass for a whole year

i just want to see if it gets better LOL

DEADASS REAL

I mean you're just proving my point lol you're here by YOUR OWN CHOICE despite knowing the fact that this BL is not your cup of tea but then keep complaining is what's funny to me.

Best of luck to you then.

realest

What did he do to you

Existing basically

Why? He's so much better than Yahwi (?). There are some sussy things but overall he's great

As you said "Sussy things" lmao yeah that's what makes him a white weirdo. People have a problem with comprehending Yahwi's character, but I don't fall into the category fortunately.

Look I get Yahwi's character. But that doesn't make him right nor good. He raped our MC for goodness sake. He hurts him emotionally, physically etc. Cain is suspicious.yeah. I'm sure the author will reveal Cain's backstory soon. Whatever that might be, we'll know soon. But Cain never hurts our MC at least not the way that Yahwi has.

OK

And nah I don't think you get Yahwi's character. There is a reason why he is the way he is. It's funny how people just wanna ignore the fact that he is trying...yes he has a lot of issues and there are things I don't justify as well but well that's what makes him a solid multidimensional character unlike certain white dude who infact lies and stalks the mc, emotionally manipulates him and forcefully imposes himself and his feelings... but anyway I will leave it at that.