genuine bird-brain voodoo has been implanted into this fucking story bro because why am I actually eating this up.
But actually tho, if there isn't a solid chasing arc after all this bullshit im actually going to be a certified bird--like WE are taking this disrespect Juwon, so P L E A S E hurry up and start making that man suffer
Rape, cheating AND abuse!?!?!??
Thank god this is the only crap that the author has ever put out. Anyone who genuinely enjoyed consuming this needs a psychiatric evaluation to be cleared for interactions with humans
Hey so some people read stuff like this due to their own trauma and this is a way for them to help cope with it in a safe controlled environment. This story could actually be helping them interact with society and taking it away could be what leads them closer to needing a “psychiatric evaluation to be cleared for interactions with humans”. Also funny thing about your sentence is that a human preforms a psychiatric evaluation so that means that they can’t even receive one.
Honestly, I was more aiming this towards people that enjoy consuming this because they get mental gratification from the depictions of rape, and abuse (which is objectively concerning from a psychological point of view).
And, while I can understand the point of relating to this due to trauma, I still think this type of media does more harm than good, considering that it shows some very normal fetishes being used in abusive ways, but normalizes that abuse, along with normalizing taking advantage of your partner's fetishes, staying with an abuser, and prioritizing sex over actual human emotion. Which is not only harmful to the mindset of those that may discover this (younger readers, or newer readers), but in this epidemic of rape for the sake of sexual gratification, and sexualization of gay relationships---it's not helpful.
I honestly don't care what ghosts people have in their closets that makes them enjoy this, I just wanted to call out the actual abusers, or
fetishists that partake in this, and make it a normal thing on this platform, plus I don't care who dislikes my comment because I want it to serve as a "warning" or sorts, for those who won't want to read it anyway--so they can leave without having to interact with this content.
Hey so the rape at all wasn’t there for sexual gratification. He raped them to bring them to their lowest and dishonor the person he was abusing right before killing them. Trust me no one is actually reading this story for the sexual part of it they are reading it for the phycological horror that it is. This story is not a fetish story, the author did not at all portray it that way. If you think that having something in a story means it’s supporting or fetishizing it that’s on you.
Also how does this story harm the gay community? This story is obviously something out of left field and does not represent the gay community at all. It just happens to be a gay story. Much worse has been written about straight people and has happened in real life yet we don’t say that that represents the straight community.
Nothing you said in your original comment was calling out anyone you just said that everyone who enjoyed it was disgusted and needed to be mentally evaluated. If you want to call out or warn someone this was not the way to do it. There is a way to do that without so much hateful emotions.
Yeah, what you said is completely taking my comment out of context. I didn't say the story had the rape in there for sexual gratification (though, yes, it DID, if you look at the reaction of the bottom, and eventually the reaction of the top as he continues to rape the bottom--because he does it more than once). I said that this content couls be targeted towards PEOPLE who consume media like this (media with rape and abuse) for the sake of their own sexual gratification.
You saying that no one is reading this for the "sexual part" is completely out of left field as well because I saw PLENTY of comments saying exactly that, and more. Its far less likely that people are reading this because their "trauma makes them comfortable with it", and more likely that they just enjoy seeing the bottom enjoying his abuse and rape, and hypsexualizing himself as opposed to facing it. To address the festishization, yes, the author DOES fetishize the Bottom's abuse---they display it as something the brings both the bottom and top extreme sexual pleasure, and even use aspects of Piss play, and BDSM (which are considered regular kinks and fetishes) in a harmful way (unsolicited, or without a safeword). You denying that that's what the author did does not do anything to prove your point if that's how the story has been written.
Also, if you didn't read what I said properly, I pointed out that supporting stories like this in the MODERN EPIDEMIC of the sexualization of gay relationships, and rape culture (which this is a DIRECT contributor towards) is harmful.
Unfortunately, since this is public media, anyone can get their hands on it--like the Younger generation, and newer readers (which I already mentioned). It may not just be this story, but if they read this story or any other story with RAPE AND ABUSE which is within the yaoi genre, and portraying a gay relationship, they could believe that this media is normal within this community and might even become numb to even more graphic depictions of rape---this effectively would desensitize them to rape, and rape culture.
To your point---yes straight literature DOES also have this, and unlike what you've claimed, it is a BIG defining factor of it. The whole "booktok" straight culture is DROWNING in disgusting rape-slop like this, and it is constantly being brought up. It is also constantly being pushed out to the women within that community and being normalized/fetishized.
If you STILL don't understand what the "harm" in all of this is, I'll break it down in simple terms.
This media depicts rape and extreme abuse as sexually gratifying for the characters.
There is no proper consequence for either the rape or the abuse, and the botttom's handling of it does nothing to portray a realistic victim's mindset.
This cheapens the act of both rape and abuse, and sexualizes the concept as opposed to properly addressing it. It panders to people who enjoy to watch sexual depictions of rape and abuse.
This pandering leads to high ratings and more readers.
The more readers this has, the more of a place it has within the yaoi COMMUNITY, which in turn represents how readers look at gay/queen relationships.
There is already a large amount of yaoi media that
Shares this story's theme of extreme rape and abuse and this story adds to that, which adds to the harmful mindset that rape and abuse is okay.
When people become desensitized to rape and abuse because of depictions like this, they have less sympathy for victims, and at some point may not even be able to recognize when someone is a victim (this can include themselves), plus they may think that these depictions are okay because its "just yaoi", but queer media has already been demonized in every way under the sun, and allowing it to be so openly abusive and sexualized is incredibly disrespectful---even if its coming from a queer person themself.
Also, just to reiterate this--my original comment was me blurting out what I felt in the moment, but If people saw it, they would know that there was Rape, Abuse, and cheating---and therefore be put off. I didn't go into that much depth because I assumed no one would be weird enough to argue.
My comment was so hateful, because I hated this fucking story.
And I quite frankly could not care less what th enjoyers of this story think<3.
Even if you enjoy this because you're traumatized from one thing or another---this is arguably not even remotely a good outlet for that, it doesn't handle the topics of abuse and rape in a serious matter at all, and coming from someone who was a victim of incestual SA, and parental abuse (fun fact!) I personally cannot stand this portrayal of such a serious thing, and I think anyone who TRULY enjoyed this as media (enjoyed the writing, and the story progression, and supports this kind of media) deserves to feel hurt by what I said.
Hey dude I just realized something. I thought this thread was on a completely different story I was reading. I started getting my shit mixed up so this is totally my bad.
I still think that if you don’t like the story you shouldn’t read it nor treat people with anger in the way you have over a complex topic that is different to each and every person.
Yes this story is not realistic due to the fact that it is fiction. I’m a victim of prolonged sexual assault so I have my own shit too and a different mind set than you due to my own experiences. I think the author and the people who enjoy this story do it to try and glorify their own experiences. It’s a form of coping and because it is a story if they feel uncomfortable they can just exit out of the story rather than be forced to stay.
The people who would actually use this to represent the gay community and spread it to real life people are normally not going to be on this platform. They get all their thoughts from social media and this is not social media. If anything this story would harm the fujoshi/fudanshi community rather than the gay community. Honestly if anything relating fiction to the gay community at all is extremely harmful and should not be done.
Also it’s not anyone’s responsibility on here to try and protect the kids who are on this illegal platform. They have access to the warnings and know this isn’t something they should be reading. (I say this as someone who was once a child doing the same thing.) It is only theirs and the parent’s responsibility to watch what they consume and read. Don’t stress yourself out over something that is not your responsibility, it will only exhaust you and do nothing to help anyone bc a kid who wants to read something will read something no matter what you say.
If you found this story harmful to your mental health in any way you should have closed the story the second you saw what was about to happen and should not have dived deep into reading the comments about it. If you have trouble avoiding things that harm your mental health then you should seek professional help.
I apologize for my previous posted comment since I was not aware of the correct story this was. I think this one is much more appropriate for this story.
Literally these two are so ridiculous with their lack of communication like pls, its so obvious and yet here they (Demis) go being all extra and shit
Also on another topic I js wanna say that if they were just open minded enough to do so, a light lil threesome would clear up a LOT of their problems . . .js sayin
1st life, 3rd life---fuck it could be another 1000 lives and as long as the first life still exists, I will forever hate Kloff to DEATH. I need a life where he just SUFFERS--I mean, he has to watch Aeroc NEVER fall for him again, and go off to live happily with someone other than him, and he gets confronted and rejected by Rapiel, and he lives a VILE treacherous existence, tortured by his past actions and the loss of all those he cares for. But no rape because only a fucking monster like him would use that as revenge.
Also, while I don't agree with Aeroc's decision in his first life either, I think he repented quite a bit for those actions during his TORTURE in his first life, AND his guilt in his second life, but hypothetically if he were to still be punished I would say he should just lose his wealth and status (but eventually find joy in the small parts of life, like how he gardened in season 1).
Anyways that's my rant, I fucking HATE HATE HATE Kloff, and the author is fucked in the head











Im so pissed that I didnt find this at like 130 ch. Or something. My gluttony for this fills me with anger. The concept, and the characters are too enjoyable, my pain at the lack of more to consume is everlasting
At least we got a completed novel