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PumpkinSpiceLatte May 17, 2024 7:14 am

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PumpkinSpiceLatte May 17, 2024 6:55 am

While I do understand Hee-ryang's childhood and background, the desperation he felt to survive and the debt he needed to pay back, I still think he is responsible for his actions. Maybe there was no "better" alternative in that situation, but he still made a choice and no matter whatever justifications he had, he still has to bear the responsibility and consequences. All leaders have such a role in life.

I'm quite interested in how he is going to redeem himself, if he's able to even. Would Yeonjo give him a chance? Outside of pity, what would justify giving such a man a second chance? Maybe...love?

    Succube May 17, 2024 3:19 pm

    I wonder if maybe something horrible will happen to hee-ryang which will make miserable af and suffers enough for readers/yeonjo to understand and maybe forgive him

    PumpkinSpiceLatte May 17, 2024 11:17 pm
    I wonder if maybe something horrible will happen to hee-ryang which will make miserable af and suffers enough for readers/yeonjo to understand and maybe forgive him Succube

    That would be a little cliche haha

    thisislele May 18, 2024 5:22 pm

    idk if this is just me but if i had to choose between killing a bunch of people and being killed for NOT killing a bunch of people, i would just kill myself. that’s a very easy decision to me.

    PumpkinSpiceLatte May 18, 2024 6:50 pm
    idk if this is just me but if i had to choose between killing a bunch of people and being killed for NOT killing a bunch of people, i would just kill myself. that’s a very easy decision to me. thisislele

    I don't think it's ever that simple of a matter. It stopped being about his survival after he rose in the ranks from a mere officer to the commander. The role he was given became more meaningful. Why? Because now his life had a purpose.

    The King's younger brother enabled Hee-ryang to fullfill his potential to the fullest. Hee-ryang respected him and even said that there's no one else who can spearhead the campaign against outlanders. Hee-ryang believed that their mission to protect the borders, by any means necessary (even morally questionable methods), was the highest priority.

    And to give the final push, he felt in debt to the King's younger brother. There wasn't much of a choice he had at that point, because of all the decisions he had made so far as a person. Hee-ryang let himself be cornered into that situation owing to what he allowed himself to become.

    That's why I said that despite everything, he's fully responsible for his actions and bears the burden of the consequences. And keeping all this in mind, what would it take to redeem such a person? I'm very interested in that. (▰˘◡˘▰)

    thisislele May 18, 2024 7:02 pm
    I don't think it's ever that simple of a matter. It stopped being about his survival after he rose in the ranks from a mere officer to the commander. The role he was given became more meaningful. Why? Because n... PumpkinSpiceLatte

    no i get it lol. i would still just kill myself.

    PumpkinSpiceLatte May 18, 2024 7:07 pm
    no i get it lol. i would still just kill myself. thisislele

    Okay

    Mads May 20, 2024 3:13 am

    I agree with you there, although I am in full support of him and hope he gets a redemption arc, with how intricately and well thought out the story is I believe the author has something in store for us regarding his redemption, we are already seeing it as is

    My theory is that in Part 2 or last chapters of part 1, yeonjo will betray him, maybe unwillingly or having second thoughts on the matter but he will pull through

    Maybe that is the punishment for hee ryang, after opening his heart towards someone he will be betrayed and will lead to his downfall

    Another theory would be he would fake his own death if ever yeonjo were to "kill" him, maybe hide in the shadows for a bit before coming back when everything goes to shit

    I theorise that their could be 3 parts, 1 for the beginning and establishing or what happens, part 2 will be the implementation of the "revenge" for yeonjo plus fighting with his own thoughts about it because he grew attached, maybe he'd even unwillingly betray hee yang or smth, part 3 would be the concluding and most likely where everything ties together, I'd definitely bet that if ever Yeonjo does go and exact revenge in part 2, hee ryang will still survive and find a way to put an end to everything


    Hee ryang is a full package in intellectual and in his physical capabilities, he won't go down easily but he kay be affected by the betrayal if it all goes down to that


    Anyway just praying they get the happy ending

    Mads May 20, 2024 3:13 am

    I agree with you there, although I am in full support of him and hope he gets a redemption arc, with how intricately and well thought out the story is I believe the author has something in store for us regarding his redemption, we are already seeing it as is

    My theory is that in Part 2 or last chapters of part 1, yeonjo will betray him, maybe unwillingly or having second thoughts on the matter but he will pull through

    Maybe that is the punishment for hee ryang, after opening his heart towards someone he will be betrayed and will lead to his downfall

    Another theory would be he would fake his own death if ever yeonjo were to "kill" him, maybe hide in the shadows for a bit before coming back when everything goes to shit

    I theorise that their could be 3 parts, 1 for the beginning and establishing or what happens, part 2 will be the implementation of the "revenge" for yeonjo plus fighting with his own thoughts about it because he grew attached, maybe he'd even unwillingly betray hee yang or smth, part 3 would be the concluding and most likely where everything ties together, I'd definitely bet that if ever Yeonjo does go and exact revenge in part 2, hee ryang will still survive and find a way to put an end to everything


    Hee ryang is a full package in intellectual and in his physical capabilities, he won't go down easily but he kay be affected by the betrayal if it all goes down to that


    Anyway just praying they get the happy lending

    PumpkinSpiceLatte May 20, 2024 1:21 pm
    I agree with you there, although I am in full support of him and hope he gets a redemption arc, with how intricately and well thought out the story is I believe the author has something in store for us regardin... Mads

    Yes, I also think the first theory is quite plausible.

    BL_F@NGIRL May 20, 2024 6:03 pm
    I wonder if maybe something horrible will happen to hee-ryang which will make miserable af and suffers enough for readers/yeonjo to understand and maybe forgive him Succube

    Like Yeonjo stabbing him.... Yeah I'm all for that...

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PumpkinSpiceLatte November 22, 2023 7:31 am

What are your favourite top 3 manga/manhwa/manhua/webtoon right now?

Mine are :
Dreadful Night
Kusuriya no Hitorigoto
Jinx (idc if this one is controversial lmao)

Wanted to dive into something interesting, regardless of genre! ٩(๑❛ᴗ❛๑)۶

    Jujucat November 22, 2023 7:39 am

    Roses And Champagne
    Cry Me A River
    Payback

    Jujucat November 22, 2023 7:40 am
    Roses And Champagne Cry Me A River Payback Jujucat

    Honorable mentions- Dreaming Freedom, Shutline , and Codename Anastasia

    PumpkinSpiceLatte November 22, 2023 7:53 am
    Roses And Champagne Cry Me A River Payback Jujucat

    For some reason I wasn't able to really get into Roses and Champagne. I tried at least 2 times. Gave up after some 20 chapters. Maybe will try again! Third time's a charm (๑•ㅂ•)و✧

    Really looking forward to Cry me a river cuz Secondo Piatto was amazing.

    And I've read all that's available on wattpad related to Payback, so I understand.

    Shutline, ofc. S3 will be

    Will check out Dreaming Freedom & Codename Anastasia! Thanks, Jujucat! (⌒▽⌒)

    aarz November 22, 2023 8:12 am

    payback
    mask danshi wa koishitakunai no ni
    checkmate

    aarz November 22, 2023 8:13 am

    Murderer Llewellyn's enchanting dinner invitation was also amazing to read

    PumpkinSpiceLatte November 22, 2023 8:28 am
    Murderer Llewellyn's enchanting dinner invitation was also amazing to read aarz

    Mask Danshi is very cute. I love their dynamics. Reminds me of Tabetemo Oishiku Arimasen.

    Will check out Murderer Llewellyn's enchanting dinner invitation and Checkmate! It's been a minute since I've read anything in the league of Moritat. ٩(๑❛ᴗ❛๑)۶

    pluckaduck November 22, 2023 8:38 am

    i have read way too much, but my all-time favs are Monster, Assassination Classroom, and Ennead (tho the quality had dipped a bit)

    pigglypoof November 22, 2023 8:48 am

    My most recent ongoing favorites are Our Sunny Days, Paljae, and Little Mushroom.

    PumpkinSpiceLatte November 22, 2023 8:52 am
    i have read way too much, but my all-time favs are Monster, Assassination Classroom, and Ennead (tho the quality had dipped a bit) pluckaduck

    I've been meaning to watch the Monster anime (seen the first episode already). Would you recommend I read the manga or watch the anime? I love both watching and reading. But anime usually has the added advantage of music.

    Same with Assassination Classroom. Manga or anime first?

    Have read 50 or so chapters of Ennead. Waiting for it to finish before I resume.

    PumpkinSpiceLatte November 22, 2023 8:58 am
    My most recent ongoing favorites are Our Sunny Days, Paljae, and Little Mushroom. pigglypoof

    Our Sunny Days looks fun! I really liked Unromantic and A Thousand Cranes.

    Will check out Paljae and Little Mushroom too! Thanks

    berry good November 22, 2023 8:59 am

    Our Sunny Days
    Joseon Sex Shop
    Origin of Species (almost completed already )

    pigglypoof November 22, 2023 9:03 am
    Our Sunny Days looks fun! I really liked Unromantic and A Thousand Cranes. Will check out Paljae and Little Mushroom too! Thanks PumpkinSpiceLatte

    Our Sunny Days is soooo cute. It gives me squishy feelings.

    Paljae and Little Mushroom are more plot heavy, less romance. Both have really well thought out storylines.

    PumpkinSpiceLatte November 22, 2023 9:06 am
    Our Sunny DaysJoseon Sex ShopOrigin of Species (almost completed already ) berry good

    Stopped reading Origin of Species around chapter 60, I'll resume now that it's almost done!

    Joseon Sex Shop looks like a lot of fun! Tyy (●'◡'●)ノ

    PumpkinSpiceLatte November 22, 2023 9:08 am
    Our Sunny Days is soooo cute. It gives me squishy feelings.Paljae and Little Mushroom are more plot heavy, less romance. Both have really well thought out storylines. pigglypoof

    Love intense storylines when done well! (☆▽☆)

    typ0 November 22, 2023 9:34 am

    orv, debut or die, dawn of the dragon

    pluckaduck November 22, 2023 10:42 am
    I've been meaning to watch the Monster anime (seen the first episode already). Would you recommend I read the manga or watch the anime? I love both watching and reading. But anime usually has the added advantag... PumpkinSpiceLatte

    i read the manga version of Monster and Assassination classroom, and they were both amazing. haven't really seen the animes tho. monster in particular is a masterpiece of storytelling with perfect pacing, so the pacing in the anime might be slower. not sure about AC anime, but tbh im more biased towards the manga version. overall, it just depends if u have the time or not

    PumpkinSpiceLatte November 22, 2023 11:30 am
    orv, debut or die, dawn of the dragon typ0

    I have read both the novels & webtoon of orv and debut or die! Was reading the novels before webtoons were created (≧∀≦)

    Will check out Dawn of the dragon! Ty (=・ω・=)

    PumpkinSpiceLatte November 22, 2023 11:39 am
    i read the manga version of Monster and Assassination classroom, and they were both amazing. haven't really seen the animes tho. monster in particular is a masterpiece of storytelling with perfect pacing, so th... pluckaduck

    Manga it is then! Yeah, I do have the time to read them haha. Usually, I read sports manga tho! So, no objections about the length. In fact, the longer the better! (๑•ㅂ•)و✧

    Mggo doesn't seem to have the best quality. I'll have to find alternative sites or buy them. Tyy for the recs!

    Ugliskuid November 22, 2023 11:40 am

    lately I've been craving fluffy cute story a lot so my current fav are our sunny days, love tractor, and merry marbling (≧▽≦) if u ask me my all time fav, u can check my list https://www.mangago.me/home/mangalist/2300700/ (tw: my probably cringe comments lol)

    PumpkinSpiceLatte November 22, 2023 11:48 am
    lately I've been craving fluffy cute story a lot so my current fav are our sunny days, love tractor, and merry marbling (≧▽≦) if u ask me my all time fav, u can check my list https://www.mangago.me/home/m... Ugliskuid

    Have read love tractor already haha. I'll check out Merry Marbling!

    Very nice list! Nothing cringe, only love haha. I've already read many from your list. CSM anime is sooo good tho! You should watch it, if you haven't already! It has different EDs for each episode! And they're all fantastic. It was my jam in gym for months when doing cardio. (≧∀≦)

    Ugliskuid November 22, 2023 12:02 pm
    Have read love tractor already haha. I'll check out Merry Marbling! Very nice list! Nothing cringe, only love haha. I've already read many from your list. CSM anime is sooo good tho! You should watch it, if you... PumpkinSpiceLatte

    I have watch csm anime! Kickback is fire!! I've been waiting the anime since forever and once it dropped I watched it asap,, my no1 fav shounen atm ( ꈍᴗꈍ)

    PumpkinSpiceLatte November 22, 2023 12:17 pm
    I have watch csm anime! Kickback is fire!! I've been waiting the anime since forever and once it dropped I watched it asap,, my no1 fav shounen atm ( ꈍᴗꈍ) Ugliskuid

    I know right!!! I watched so many covers on YouTube (even a calculator cover lmaoo). Jungkook singing it was so cute too. And the opening animation has so many references (to other movies and stuff. Fujimoto is a huge movie buff!)

    Ugliskuid November 22, 2023 12:42 pm
    I know right!!! I watched so many covers on YouTube (even a calculator cover lmaoo). Jungkook singing it was so cute too. And the opening animation has so many references (to other movies and stuff. Fujimoto is... PumpkinSpiceLatte

    aaa I know the movies reference too, he's a genius istg. goodbye eri & fire punch also so good. I love his works

    PumpkinSpiceLatte November 22, 2023 12:45 pm
    aaa I know the movies reference too, he's a genius istg. goodbye eri & fire punch also so good. I love his works Ugliskuid

    I should check them out too!

    JUST BEING ME November 22, 2023 7:22 pm

    Eleceed
    The return of the Mount Hua Sect
    Trash Of The Count's Family

    PumpkinSpiceLatte November 23, 2023 12:00 am
    Eleceed The return of the Mount Hua Sect Trash Of The Count's Family JUST BEING ME

    I've read both the novel & manhwa of TCF! ^^ I'll check out The return of the mount hua sect, tyy! (⌒▽⌒)

    JUST BEING ME November 23, 2023 1:38 am
    I've read both the novel & manhwa of TCF! ^^ I'll check out The return of the mount hua sect, tyy! (⌒▽⌒) PumpkinSpiceLatte

    Go ahead ᕙ(  • ‿ •  )ᕗ

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