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✭JJ✭ June 12, 2024 12:26 am

Im so sick off rape being glorified in bl's. Look. Not only is Caesar a crazy obsessive and posessive phsyco, He is also a rapist. I liked this story a lot until the part where Caesar literallt SHOT HIM and RAPED HIM for trying to leave. I was flabbergasted and absolutley disgusted. Lee won said himself, he wouldnt say he is happy with Caesar but exhausted. Their relationship in my opinion will not grow into anything but more toxic and abusive than it already is. Poor Lee won deserves an happy ending and this is just not it.

    TheTenderVigilante June 12, 2024 12:44 am

    Not wanting to sound rude, but literally no one is ignoring it. Every other comment is acknowledging it, and whether they still like the story or not.
    By the end of the story Leewon is expressing happiness, even knowing who or what Ceasar is. Leewon even questions his own sanity loving Ceasar esp after what he did to him. But I don’t feel it’s done in a Stockholm Syndrome type of way. It’s more like this bastard is crazy and I must be too

    ✭JJ✭ June 12, 2024 9:15 am
    Not wanting to sound rude, but literally no one is ignoring it. Every other comment is acknowledging it, and whether they still like the story or not.By the end of the story Leewon is expressing happiness, even... TheTenderVigilante

    Okayy yeahhh I totally understand what you are saying and I migth have missunderstood the last parts of the storyy!!! thank youuu. but I am still really dissapointed off how normalized rape is becoming in bl's ╥﹏╥

    TheTenderVigilante June 12, 2024 12:49 pm
    Okayy yeahhh I totally understand what you are saying and I migth have missunderstood the last parts of the storyy!!! thank youuu. but I am still really dissapointed off how normalized rape is becoming in bl's ... ✭JJ✭

    So true. There’s no shock value anymore to it either, and most of the time it adds nothing to the plot. To me now its like oh god here we go again. I don’t even read as much manga as I used to bc it’s gotten so tired

    Nana June 12, 2024 1:47 pm

    Well I expect it from the start but I still read the story to see how the character will develop this time and I love Lee won character the way he understands his feelings and think before acting you can’t find it in every plot
    someone who was raised like Caesar would do worse than that I still feel like the manhwa didn’t show all his evil side to make the story acceptable for some degree if was real he would do worse but if someone read the story multiple times slowly you would see that Caesar tried his best to change his behaviour in front of Won his extreme character did develop a little because of Lee Won effect on him because he didn’t want to lose him and wanted him to love him too though outside Lee Won vision I can’t even imagine what he is doing , Lee won on the other side maybe had odd preference from the start his mother fell in love with a mafia boss and he was a son of a mafia we can’t forget about his mafia blood even though he don’t except killing peoples but he likes extreme excitement he even
    Participate in hunting game with Caesar and the one Won was hunting if Caesar himself when ever I read this I think Won is not ordinary person maybe that’s why he was attracted to Caesar he could get all the excitement he wanted

    ezel June 12, 2024 11:22 pm
    Well I expect it from the start but I still read the story to see how the character will develop this time and I love Lee won character the way he understands his feelings and think before acting you can’t fi... Nana

    i don’t think any amount of “dark side” can excuse rape

    ✭JJ✭ June 12, 2024 11:33 pm
    i don’t think any amount of “dark side” can excuse rape ezel

    100% agreed

    ✭JJ✭ June 12, 2024 11:34 pm
    So true. There’s no shock value anymore to it either, and most of the time it adds nothing to the plot. To me now its like oh god here we go again. I don’t even read as much manga as I used to bc it’s go... TheTenderVigilante

    Yeah. I agree, its so sad to see

    Nana June 13, 2024 1:16 am
    i don’t think any amount of “dark side” can excuse rape ezel

    I didn’t say he was excused nothing excused wrong doing including rape don’t put words in my mouth I said it was expected of him to do so if you raise a human like an animal he will be an animal he doesn’t know right from wrong if you remember the scene when he tried to shoot the kid with his gun he didn’t know why Lee won was angry at him he wasn’t acting he really didn’t but after that he didn’t do it again in the plot and that’s because of Lee won teaching him or because he simply didn’t want Lee to be angry at him Lee put some sense in Caesar sometimes feels like a mother what make Caesar character bearable for me is that he is learning slowly and changing to some degree and at some point stops I watched other stories when ML doesn’t stop and the rape continues through out the story and still thinks nothing wrong with his behavior this makes me stop reading if ever Caesar was raised differently he wouldn’t do it how many mafia bosses waited for their love interest to have feelings for them before attacking them if Demitry didn’t say all these trash words to Caesar maybe no one would have saw the rape scene in the end nothing justify rape its painful and unacceptable even between lovers or whatever both parties need to agree but that’s doesn’t mean the people who were raised in the wrong way wouldn’t do it, I know of a husband who raped his wife when she didn’t want to share bed with him because he was tought to be selfish trash and woman is a mean to release and he never changed throughout his life this made me think for a second who is worse the real man or the factional character at least the factional character learned to stop but the real man never did,every one trash and the bigger trash is the author who encourage these thought in bl or non bl stories if someone who has no sanity read it he will be professional in rape in no time , after listening to the husband and wife story from my friend I thought that most rapest are made through out wrong teaching and the rest through mental illness
    English not my first language but I tried my best

    ezel June 13, 2024 10:31 am
    I didn’t say he was excused nothing excused wrong doing including rape don’t put words in my mouth I said it was expected of him to do so if you raise a human like an animal he will be an animal he doesn�... Nana

    yeah no i completely agree with u and sorry i misunderstood ur other reply ㅠㅠ i was just trying to say basically the same thing as you, ive been seeing a lot of people justify rape because “he has an excuse to do it bc he has a dark side” and stuff like that and i just can’t wrap my head around the fact that some people seriously think it’s ok to think about these topics as if it’s normal like its not an actual crime, the writers who include these scenes repeatedly over and over and expect everyone to be cool with it really piss me off especially because this topic is a huge issue irl like you’ve said! sorry that happened to your friend by the way, hope she’s alright. and ur english is perfect !

    Nana June 13, 2024 2:43 pm
    yeah no i completely agree with u and sorry i misunderstood ur other reply ㅠㅠ i was just trying to say basically the same thing as you, ive been seeing a lot of people justify rape because “he has an excu... ezel

    I’m glad we are on the same page , well my friend told me the story but she wasn’t the one in the story and I’m thankful to that hope everyone lives peacefully no one deserves to be tortured of any kind because some one has a good reason to do so to them thank you for your understanding

✭JJ✭ June 11, 2024 2:22 pm

Yall Im really not trying to sound ungreatful... BUT WASNT THERE LIKE JUST A HIATUS???????? WHY AGAIN? ┑( ̄Д  ̄)┍

    Cucumber June 11, 2024 4:28 pm

    This one is for the official English translations, not the fan translation.

    ✭JJ✭ June 11, 2024 9:12 pm
    This one is for the official English translations, not the fan translation. Cucumber

    OHHHH OKAYYYY! THANKS FOR LETTING ME KNOWW, I WAS SO CONFUSEDD.( ̄∇ ̄")

✭JJ✭ May 21, 2024 10:48 pm

THIS SHIT IS JUST STRAIGHT UP WEIRD AND DISGUSTING

✭JJ✭ May 14, 2024 12:17 am

Im so happy to finally have found a yaoi where the top doesnt r@pe the bottom.
R@pe has become so normalized in Yaoi that its crazy.

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