Nahhh y'all irritating tf outa me in these comments. Ya'll are gonna blame a kid in a dysfunctional household, for getting upset he got hit by probably the only guardian he could trust?? HES A CHILD. Obviously he's gonna say hateful and hurtful shit he learned from the other adults, like his aunt. Was it right? obviously not, but y'all have had emotional outbursts too, be so fucking for real, the kid's in a dysfunctional home with no one to rely on but his minor sister, how tf is he gonna react right?? Like sorry little bros not the perfect textbook victim tf?
Dummies out here expecting a child to react "appropriately" or "normally," when mind you, the kid is STILL developing, doesn't have a support system, distrusts the only actual adult that supports him, lives in a financially unstable home, gets bullied, and doesn't believe he has a safe space. Ya'll are fucking slow, like let's be a little more cognitive, yeah?? And for the comments expressing their annoyance 'cause he's immature, doesn't act right, or is annoying—because some of ya'll got hit and didn't react that way—therefore what he's doing and how he's reacting is dumb?? This genre ain't for you, seeing as a LOT of you can only perceive the main character and sympathize with her. Stick to slice of life, gng, this shit is above your reading level
Dummies out here expecting a child to react "appropriately" or "normally," when mind you, the kid is STILL developing, doesn't have a support system, distrusts the only actual adult that supports him, lives in ... asia
No, even when I was younger and my house was dysfunctional it's not normal to call a family member an abuser.
Well it's okay to be upset at a character who says to the other character (who was shown enduring a lot of workplace harassment just to support him) cruel things. Honestly him holding a grudge isn't even the problem, wat is wild, him telling his sister to die like his parents? She grew up as a minor in the same functional household as him brah. Idk it's insane to me, even she realises wat she did and regrets her actions, I wish he realised it now that he's older why she even hit him in the first place. like why does he not call his aunt an abuser? He also saw his sister get hit and abused.
But oh well...I just hope inseop spares him and kills that disgusting cousin.
Yes at the time of the abuse he was a child that may have not understood what his sister was going through because he didn't experience it. So it was kinda "ok" to be ignorant. But he's a whole teenager in high school, he's aware of his sister's struggles, he now understands somewhat of what his sister went through with their family. Now not only is he adding to his sister's struggles but he's part of the problem. Not saying that his abuse isn't valid, but before he was even abused he literally saw what she went through.
Yes at the time of the abuse he was a child that may have not understood what his sister was going through because he didn't experience it. So it was kinda "ok" to be ignorant. But he's a whole teenager in high... Mollyed3
He should literally have some understanding and compassion for his sister. Plus isn't he living with her??
Well it's okay to be upset at a character who says to the other character (who was shown enduring a lot of workplace harassment just to support him) cruel things.Honestly him holding a grudge isn't even the pro... lemonkun
Well we haven't seen him and his aunt interact at all so that's an assumption, and again sure they lived in the same household, but they lived in the same household at SEPARATE age stages, his sister was more cognitive of what would happen to them after their parents died and also again him telling her to die is him being reactive to his environment plus he's at an age where saying shit like that to HIM doesn't have much weight because he's young, not an excuse but it rlly shouldn't be surprising a kid would say crazy hurtful shit right after his parents died to press on the buttons of the person to him betrayed him in that moment
No, even when I was younger and my house was dysfunctional it's not normal to call a family member an abuser. CaiChiCat
So considering his age, all these different exposures to unreliant adults and toxic environments, bullying, possible SA. Because *you* also had a dysfunctional family his reaction to the only other person he trusted hitting him, after attempting a conversation right after their parents died is not considered your normal. Yeah bye
He should literally have some understanding and compassion for his sister. Plus isn't he living with her?? Mollyed3
So what that he's a teenager?? This kid does not trust his sister after she hit him during a very high tension time period, the only guardian figure he trusted at the time. Plus the kid doesn't have a support system: as in he has no friends, no guardian figure, safe space or ANYONE he can trust to be vulnerable with, and no coping mechanisms considering he's never talked to his councillor about his SA, we also don't know if his therapy is aligned with his needs because he's so reluctant to open up. He's being reactive to an environment and obviously has delayed emotional development. Compassion and understanding is learned, how would he learn that if he never felt safe or allowed himself to be vulnerable if he no longer trusts her??
Well we haven't seen him and his aunt interact at all so that's an assumption, and again sure they lived in the same household, but they lived in the same household at SEPARATE age stages, his sister was more c... asia
There was literally a panel of him watching his sister get slapped by his aunt and he cries next to her.... Also it cuts to him sleeping peacefully while his sister cries alone btw (no reliant adult around her nor a space as well)
I think you're downplaying his actions and defending him because he's personal to you, it's just a manhwa, i just didn't like a character who has so far been shown to be self absorbed and says disturbing shit about the only person who has cared and worked super hard to provide him a living, peace.
There was literally a panel of him watching his sister get slapped by his aunt and he cries next to her....Also it cuts to him sleeping peacefully while his sister cries alone btw (no reliant adult around her n... lemonkun
So because I can analyze that both siblings are victims and can understand that a child who grew up without a stable environment AND never felt as if he had a safe space, therefore would obviously become reactive: telling dummies on the internet that they're slow, I'm projecting some sort of trauma okay . So being aware of the fact a child who possibly **only** grew up around a reactive and dangerous environment for when a child is most impressionable, unlike his sister who possibly grew up to her middle adolescents with some sort of normalcy with her parents: considering she was cognitive of what would happen to them after their parents deaths and was obviously distressed. While her brother seemed to be oblivious to what was happening around him considering his lack of worries, PLUS his lack of understanding to the weight of his words, saying anything to hurt his sister. No one's down playing shit, and no one said the kid was a good person. OBVIOUSLY the sister is going to be more AWARE as she is at a more cognitive developmental stage than her brother, ESPECIALLY if she had a somewhat normal upbringing before the car accident. How could a child who has ever only ever known discomfort or fear learn to be compassionate or understanding when the kid has no friends to learn from, an environment that allows him to feel safe or a healthy community to pick up from. He obviously doesn't trust his sister so there was no chance he'd ever learn from her or give her a chance considering what happened to him after he lost trust in her as a child (the grooming and possible SA). Like be fucking fr.
So, for all of y'all who think being able to have decent reading comprehension means I'm a victim or projecting trauma, guess what? I have an educational background in psych AND work with adolescents and younger children, meaning I work with kids as young as four to mid teens. So gtfo my face. I'm not saying I'm goddamn Einstein or haha i'm right you're wrong cause i'm smart, but holy fuck, y'all just keep proving to be slow. NO ONE is defending that he's a good person, which ya'll very apparently can't comprehend, so Ima say it in one sentence since it needs to be spelled out for the delayed. He is a a troubled youth who is being reactive and hurtful because he believes he has no where to turn too and he aligns himself with self deprecating ideals as MOST victims do, what he's saying or doing IS NOT A SURPRISE, he is reacting in unhealthy ways because he does not know HOW to react. So as I said in the topic, y'all are slow and pissing me off and this genre ain't for you stick to slice of life
And Ima add one more thing, which I replied to another topic, I'm putting it here to add a more in depth comment and not repeat it so many times.
Who ever said he was getting a pass??? No duh he thinks similarly to their extended family--when he was more conscious of actions and words that's ALL he learned from, when someone is placed in a prolonged environment which they do not feel safe in to be vulnerable, why wouldn't they be reactive and use the same behavioural tactics????
The kid has no where else to pick up from to understand what is appropriate and why he should be understanding. That said, nothing he says or does is a surprise, if he doesn't trust her he won't make an effort to be nice or understanding or compassionate, she is not someone he sees himself being vulnerable too.
And before you go off on how 'oh so cause he's traumatized his sister needs to keep reaching out'. She isn't obligated to do shit and that's understandable.
But do you think abuse victims are aware of harmful habits to themselves or others when they're still a teenager???? Most adults victims only realize unhealthy patterns of behaviours when they hit their 30s, and that's not considering a lot of outside factors just on when most adults finish developing. He's a reactive kid who doesn't believe he's in a safe space, so ya'll saying he's annoying or is a brat is glazing over the fact as to all the reasons why, but yes it is frustrating. No one said he was good, but why would he be if being hurtful was how he learned to protect himself?? Hence him acting like the aunt.
What I think is interesting is expecting a teenager to fully understand his trauma and react appropriately when he still has a self deprecating ideals and believes he cannot be vulnerable! So I guess we should have that expectation that abuse victims should know better and not be reactive regardless of whatever the hell they're feeling or thinking! ESP because teenagers can work through complicated emotional ties and still be nice and polite!
and that’s just you and your family , not everyone will behave like you doyoung
I had a cousin who did this, she had a step dad and felt like she wasn't receiving enough attention so she went and lied to our grandma that he'd been sexually abusing her. She got taken away from the CPS for several months till she came out saying she lied. She was returned but the whole family just inst the same.
So considering his age, all these different exposures to unreliant adults and toxic environments, bullying, possible SA. Because *you* also had a dysfunctional family his reaction to the only other person he tr... asia
Literally had a family member lie about sexual abuse get taken away by CPS. Stfu he's a POS
Literally had a family member lie about sexual abuse get taken away by CPS. Stfu he's a POS CaiChiCat
So how in the hell does that have any relation to what he's been through?? those are two VASTLY different scenarios this is such a crazy ass reach and shit analysis
I had a cousin who did this, she had a step dad and felt like she wasn't receiving enough attention so she went and lied to our grandma that he'd been sexually abusing her. She got taken away from the CPS for s... CaiChiCat
go ahead and reread ur reply and then the brothers back story and explain how ANY of that is related or even somewhat similar, the sky gotta be the limit with this crazy ass reach of a comparison
So, for all of y'all who think being able to have decent reading comprehension means I'm a victim or projecting trauma, guess what? I have an educational background in psych AND work with adolescents and younge... asia
I feel bad about your future patients, instead of helping them you'll just egg them on
go ahead and reread ur reply and then the brothers back story and explain how ANY of that is related or even somewhat similar, the sky gotta be the limit with this crazy ass reach of a comparison asia
The fact you don't see how a you child falsely accusing someone of abuse isn't the same as a slightly older child accusing another of abuse is INSANE work. Is your school online perhaps? Might want to get a refund cause it's a scam.
The fact you don't see how a you child falsely accusing someone of abuse isn't the same as a slightly older child accusing another of abuse is INSANE work. Is your school online perhaps? Might want to get a ref... CaiChiCat
LMAOOO I still stick by my original comment, go ahead and move onto slice of life gng this shit FLIES over your head. I have no idea what you're trying to express because NONE of your comments have any clear point, explanation, or analysis to add or even REBUTTAL what I've stated besides "he sucks and you're stupid!!" I'm fr going in circles, esp with ppl like you since I'm obviously arguing with a child, since no way this could be considered a debate.
Now to your actual comment, so in this statement, you think that for example a seven year-old has the same understanding of societal norms and behaviours compared to someone entering their fresh possible min teens?? ESPECIALLY when they've obviously experienced a traumatic event at different developing stages?? Clearly since you assume from ages 5-15 is only a *slight* difference in comparison to someone who's 27-30. I guess you don't understand why elementary students have different reading levels per grade level, compared to expecting someone who's 27-30 to comprehend hr policies.
You're ig the target audience, cause you're obviously slow if shit gotta be repeated to you and your only rebuttal is "Well he sucks cause he should know better! He's grown enough!!" I've already explained why he's so reactive and acts the way he does, and cant do anything if you got tunnel vision. And based off of your comments and thinking process ima just assume you're a kid, so go ahead and get back to your books
I feel bad about your future patients, instead of helping them you'll just egg them on CaiChiCat
well I ain't your therapist or responsible for your feelings, if you can't understand what some rando on the internet is explaining and get pissed cause your feelings get hurt since I very apparently touched a nerve maybe that's saying something
well I ain't your therapist or responsible for your feelings, if you can't understand what some rando on the internet is explaining and get pissed cause your feelings get hurt since I very apparently touched a ... asia
You've literally turned this into 2 page argument because you got so incredibly triggered that you'd give everyone 2 separate comments with whole ass paragraphs
You've literally turned this into 2 page argument because you got so incredibly triggered that you'd give everyone 2 separate comments with whole ass paragraphs CaiChiCat
Nahhh y'all irritating tf outa me in these comments. Ya'll are gonna blame a kid in a dysfunctional household, for getting upset he got hit by probably the only guardian he could trust?? HES A CHILD. Obviously he's gonna say hateful and hurtful shit he learned from the other adults, like his aunt. Was it right? obviously not, but y'all have had emotional outbursts too, be so fucking for real, the kid's in a dysfunctional home with no one to rely on but his minor sister, how tf is he gonna react right?? Like sorry little bros not the perfect textbook victim tf?
Dummies out here expecting a child to react "appropriately" or "normally," when mind you, the kid is STILL developing, doesn't have a support system, distrusts the only actual adult that supports him, lives in a financially unstable home, gets bullied, and doesn't believe he has a safe space. Ya'll are fucking slow, like let's be a little more cognitive, yeah?? And for the comments expressing their annoyance 'cause he's immature, doesn't act right, or is annoying—because some of ya'll got hit and didn't react that way—therefore what he's doing and how he's reacting is dumb?? This genre ain't for you, seeing as a LOT of you can only perceive the main character and sympathize with her. Stick to slice of life, gng, this shit is above your reading level
No, even when I was younger and my house was dysfunctional it's not normal to call a family member an abuser.
He did deserve that slap tho
Well it's okay to be upset at a character who says to the other character (who was shown enduring a lot of workplace harassment just to support him) cruel things.
Honestly him holding a grudge isn't even the problem, wat is wild, him telling his sister to die like his parents?
She grew up as a minor in the same functional household as him brah.
Idk it's insane to me, even she realises wat she did and regrets her actions, I wish he realised it now that he's older why she even hit him in the first place.
like why does he not call his aunt an abuser? He also saw his sister get hit and abused.
But oh well...I just hope inseop spares him and kills that disgusting cousin.
and that’s just you and your family , not everyone will behave like you
TELL EM
I think he need more then one slap. He is a shitty brother.
Yeah, a shtty self-absorbed person like her brother will behave like shit.
Yes at the time of the abuse he was a child that may have not understood what his sister was going through because he didn't experience it. So it was kinda "ok" to be ignorant. But he's a whole teenager in high school, he's aware of his sister's struggles, he now understands somewhat of what his sister went through with their family. Now not only is he adding to his sister's struggles but he's part of the problem. Not saying that his abuse isn't valid, but before he was even abused he literally saw what she went through.
He should literally have some understanding and compassion for his sister. Plus isn't he living with her??
he’s literally a product of his environment not his fault that’s all he know when he’s copying the adults as an impressionable child
Understanding and compassion is something learned, where would he learn that if he has no safe space??
What are you talking about? Are you fantasising? He had parents before. Did they also slaped his sister around and wished she was dead?
Well we haven't seen him and his aunt interact at all so that's an assumption, and again sure they lived in the same household, but they lived in the same household at SEPARATE age stages, his sister was more cognitive of what would happen to them after their parents died and also again him telling her to die is him being reactive to his environment plus he's at an age where saying shit like that to HIM doesn't have much weight because he's young, not an excuse but it rlly shouldn't be surprising a kid would say crazy hurtful shit right after his parents died to press on the buttons of the person to him betrayed him in that moment
So considering his age, all these different exposures to unreliant adults and toxic environments, bullying, possible SA. Because *you* also had a dysfunctional family his reaction to the only other person he trusted hitting him, after attempting a conversation right after their parents died is not considered your normal. Yeah bye
So what that he's a teenager?? This kid does not trust his sister after she hit him during a very high tension time period, the only guardian figure he trusted at the time. Plus the kid doesn't have a support system: as in he has no friends, no guardian figure, safe space or ANYONE he can trust to be vulnerable with, and no coping mechanisms considering he's never talked to his councillor about his SA, we also don't know if his therapy is aligned with his needs because he's so reluctant to open up. He's being reactive to an environment and obviously has delayed emotional development. Compassion and understanding is learned, how would he learn that if he never felt safe or allowed himself to be vulnerable if he no longer trusts her??
Yeah go ahead and move onto slice of life
Yeah go ahead and reread that or move onto slice of life gng this aint for you if that's all it takes for the kid to be normal
There was literally a panel of him watching his sister get slapped by his aunt and he cries next to her....
Also it cuts to him sleeping peacefully while his sister cries alone btw (no reliant adult around her nor a space as well)
I think you're downplaying his actions and defending him because he's personal to you, it's just a manhwa, i just didn't like a character who has so far been shown to be self absorbed and says disturbing shit about the only person who has cared and worked super hard to provide him a living, peace.
So because I can analyze that both siblings are victims and can understand that a child who grew up without a stable environment AND never felt as if he had a safe space, therefore would obviously become reactive: telling dummies on the internet that they're slow, I'm projecting some sort of trauma okay . So being aware of the fact a child who possibly **only** grew up around a reactive and dangerous environment for when a child is most impressionable, unlike his sister who possibly grew up to her middle adolescents with some sort of normalcy with her parents: considering she was cognitive of what would happen to them after their parents deaths and was obviously distressed. While her brother seemed to be oblivious to what was happening around him considering his lack of worries, PLUS his lack of understanding to the weight of his words, saying anything to hurt his sister. No one's down playing shit, and no one said the kid was a good person. OBVIOUSLY the sister is going to be more AWARE as she is at a more cognitive developmental stage than her brother, ESPECIALLY if she had a somewhat normal upbringing before the car accident. How could a child who has ever only ever known discomfort or fear learn to be compassionate or understanding when the kid has no friends to learn from, an environment that allows him to feel safe or a healthy community to pick up from. He obviously doesn't trust his sister so there was no chance he'd ever learn from her or give her a chance considering what happened to him after he lost trust in her as a child (the grooming and possible SA). Like be fucking fr.
So, for all of y'all who think being able to have decent reading comprehension means I'm a victim or projecting trauma, guess what? I have an educational background in psych AND work with adolescents and younger children, meaning I work with kids as young as four to mid teens. So gtfo my face. I'm not saying I'm goddamn Einstein or haha i'm right you're wrong cause i'm smart, but holy fuck, y'all just keep proving to be slow. NO ONE is defending that he's a good person, which ya'll very apparently can't comprehend, so Ima say it in one sentence since it needs to be spelled out for the delayed. He is a a troubled youth who is being reactive and hurtful because he believes he has no where to turn too and he aligns himself with self deprecating ideals as MOST victims do, what he's saying or doing IS NOT A SURPRISE, he is reacting in unhealthy ways because he does not know HOW to react. So as I said in the topic, y'all are slow and pissing me off and this genre ain't for you stick to slice of life
And Ima add one more thing, which I replied to another topic, I'm putting it here to add a more in depth comment and not repeat it so many times.
Who ever said he was getting a pass??? No duh he thinks similarly to their extended family--when he was more conscious of actions and words that's ALL he learned from, when someone is placed in a prolonged environment which they do not feel safe in to be vulnerable, why wouldn't they be reactive and use the same behavioural tactics????
The kid has no where else to pick up from to understand what is appropriate and why he should be understanding. That said, nothing he says or does is a surprise, if he doesn't trust her he won't make an effort to be nice or understanding or compassionate, she is not someone he sees himself being vulnerable too.
And before you go off on how 'oh so cause he's traumatized his sister needs to keep reaching out'. She isn't obligated to do shit and that's understandable.
But do you think abuse victims are aware of harmful habits to themselves or others when they're still a teenager???? Most adults victims only realize unhealthy patterns of behaviours when they hit their 30s, and that's not considering a lot of outside factors just on when most adults finish developing. He's a reactive kid who doesn't believe he's in a safe space, so ya'll saying he's annoying or is a brat is glazing over the fact as to all the reasons why, but yes it is frustrating. No one said he was good, but why would he be if being hurtful was how he learned to protect himself?? Hence him acting like the aunt.
What I think is interesting is expecting a teenager to fully understand his trauma and react appropriately when he still has a self deprecating ideals and believes he cannot be vulnerable! So I guess we should have that expectation that abuse victims should know better and not be reactive regardless of whatever the hell they're feeling or thinking! ESP because teenagers can work through complicated emotional ties and still be nice and polite!
yeah a lot of y'all delayed asf
I had a cousin who did this, she had a step dad and felt like she wasn't receiving enough attention so she went and lied to our grandma that he'd been sexually abusing her. She got taken away from the CPS for several months till she came out saying she lied. She was returned but the whole family just inst the same.
Literally had a family member lie about sexual abuse get taken away by CPS. Stfu he's a POS
So how in the hell does that have any relation to what he's been through?? those are two VASTLY different scenarios this is such a crazy ass reach and shit analysis
go ahead and reread ur reply and then the brothers back story and explain how ANY of that is related or even somewhat similar, the sky gotta be the limit with this crazy ass reach of a comparison
You need therapy
I feel bad about your future patients, instead of helping them you'll just egg them on
The fact you don't see how a you child falsely accusing someone of abuse isn't the same as a slightly older child accusing another of abuse is INSANE work. Is your school online perhaps? Might want to get a refund cause it's a scam.
LMAOOO I still stick by my original comment, go ahead and move onto slice of life gng this shit FLIES over your head. I have no idea what you're trying to express because NONE of your comments have any clear point, explanation, or analysis to add or even REBUTTAL what I've stated besides "he sucks and you're stupid!!" I'm fr going in circles, esp with ppl like you since I'm obviously arguing with a child, since no way this could be considered a debate.
Now to your actual comment, so in this statement, you think that for example a seven year-old has the same understanding of societal norms and behaviours compared to someone entering their fresh possible min teens?? ESPECIALLY when they've obviously experienced a traumatic event at different developing stages?? Clearly since you assume from ages 5-15 is only a *slight* difference in comparison to someone who's 27-30. I guess you don't understand why elementary students have different reading levels per grade level, compared to expecting someone who's 27-30 to comprehend hr policies.
You're ig the target audience, cause you're obviously slow if shit gotta be repeated to you and your only rebuttal is "Well he sucks cause he should know better! He's grown enough!!" I've already explained why he's so reactive and acts the way he does, and cant do anything if you got tunnel vision. And based off of your comments and thinking process ima just assume you're a kid, so go ahead and get back to your books
well I ain't your therapist or responsible for your feelings, if you can't understand what some rando on the internet is explaining and get pissed cause your feelings get hurt since I very apparently touched a nerve maybe that's saying something
No literally like what are people on about??
You've literally turned this into 2 page argument because you got so incredibly triggered that you'd give everyone 2 separate comments with whole ass paragraphs
"you need therapy" headass