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Chansol literally could have done everything to make him go away, he didn't. You may not like Taeha, but that's definitely not rape

That’s… no baby that ain’t rape.

Tell me you're a child without telling me you're a child

It's literally rape... he said no multiple times... No means NO.
Just because he's hot doesn't mean it's not rape

U must be new in the yaoi / BL world or any other porn story. This is not for u baby go back to ur shojos

We just gonna ignore the fact that chansol told him no multiple times AND told him to stop? If that isn’t rape then idk what is.

The rapey bit is him saying he finds it hot to force himself on someone and ignore chansols pleas. It’s not full blown rape but it’s giving those vibes tho

Oh dear, if this thing triggers you and equivalent it to rape then you aren’t ready to read spicy Yaoi because this shit is tame af. Please click away if you really can’t stomach it, like I’m being so genuine with you rn. Don’t force yourself to read and comment this manwha if you can’t stomach it, it won’t be good to your mental health.

There are many Yaoi that are more fluffy than this. Omegaverse have always dealt with dubious consent even in this. You can argue that the two ML raped the main character when they were in heat because they’re not really conscious and can’t properly consent.

Hell didn’t Taeha basically blackmail the mc into a sexual relationship? The buff guy sexually harassing MC in his sleep? MC would have screamed and raged, or screamed for help when he heard the other ML coming.

Just click away if you’re easily disturbed.

Anyway remember that this is all a fantasy and not real if it triggers you, you’re allowed to think that because it is kind of a dubious consent. If this doesn’t cater to your fantasies then just drop the fic there are sooo many others with the same concept, there’s no need to comment or fight over things that would ultimately not matter in the long run.

If that is your basis for rape, then even the fluffiest mangas are gonna be the ML raping the MC. Chansol had EVERY POWER to scream at the top of his lungs and someone would immediately rescue him from the "Rape" you're talking about. But the reason he was telling Taeha to stop is cause he can't hold back the noise and is SCARED OF SOMEONE FINDING OUT. If you're getting raped, you aren't gonna be scared of someone else seeing you, in fact you'd want to get everyone's attention to help you.

It's either you don't understand the concept of "Sex" in these mangas or you're generally too young to understand what you're reading. In either cases, just get out of here, clearly you don't understand what you're reading anyway.

lmao IT IS rape tho ( a « I’m not sure » is not consent, chansol said first NO then taeha forced him to continue even if there is arousal is still sa) pls yaoi is fcking with our minds that non-con and dub-con became super normal and that doesn’t make it okay
Like more than 50% of yaoi story is sa but ppl normalize such actions like part of the plot and bcause uke have pleasure while doing it and me first is a hard consumer of it, I read much worse too but ppl need to realize it even if you think that it doesn’t have much impact on your mind

just hope ppl in real life ppl ask for CLEAR CONSENT of their partner

Yes he was telling Taeha to stop. But he was telling him to stop cause he can't keep his voice down and they might get caught. If he was getting raped and if this was not what he wanted, he could've easily screamed for help from other staff and members but no, he didn't, in fact he was so focused on not letting a noise out. No one who has ever been raped would've done that. It might not be comfortable for him, but it's not fully rape considering he could've easily gotten out of that situation, Taeha isn't a monster who would force it if chansol truly didn't want it. I doubt chansol didn't scream just cause he didn't want anyone to know his secret considering every member probably already know or at least have a hint, they could easily help him without hesitation if he did scream for help cause he was getting "raped"

There are multiple kinds of No, The fact is that he played along with him until the end. He literally complied with Taeha one panel later to accommodate their position to have sex.

That's not rape, you just wanna find problem where there isn't

Not everything is like this, you're just being delusional right now. If it was rape the panels would be telling us it was, it would have showed pain, torture, tears screams and all kind of stuff and it simply DIDN'T.

You're focusing on a text you don't even know the intonation he spoke and forgetting the literal main part of the Manhwa, the image.

Chansol clearly said stop because he couldn't hold back his Moans, not because he was being raped. And we'll see it in next chapter, because there was no fucking rape

The other commenters already said what I wanted to say about it not being rape and how MC would’ve been shown screaming, crying, etc etc. and he’s telling him to stop cuz he can’t hold back his moans so I’m not gonna say it again because that’s very repetitive.

What I’m gonna say again is; no one is forcing you to engage in something you find uncomfortable, we’re not tying you down and forcing you to read this with a gun on your head, babes. Just scroll away and stop engaging if it triggers you super bad, I read fucked up shit and if it triggers me I scroll the fuck away, I don’t go mocking people for liking it.

Also this is fun because it’s a FANTASY, at the end of the day no one gets hurt because this isn’t real like women murdering men because they pissed her off or demeaning them then fucking them or whatever else. And those who can’t separate them are kids or mentally disabled which is why the fuck are they reading this shit in the first place?

I know the line is irl, all of the shit in this manwha and many others is sexual harassment like that buff guy jacking himself off to a sleeping Chansol or them fucking Chansol when he’s in heat which is them basically fucking him when he’s drunk/drugged if this is irl.

This type of fantasy clearly isn’t for you, just like how I can’t stomach violence all that much even those “I’m getting revenge because these people did this horrible thing to someone precious to me trope” but I’m not calling them sicko for liking it those.

Hell I find it baffling how people like seeing NPC’s that have their families and so on be killed without feeling guilty, it’s even celebrated and saying that the MC is a bad bitch because they massacred xxx organization that wronged them. So I don’t engage, on reading OR the comments, just let them have their fun and all that.

Anyway again, for the sake of your mental health. SCROLL AWAY. FUCK OFF. RUN. Especially if you can’t stomach this soft dub-con, there are PLENTY of manwha, manga and comics that are much softer than this and those that don’t even have sex AT ALL.

You have to separate fantasy from reality, babes. This isn’t real and just a guilty pleasure and again it’s not even rape, the other people already explained why it isn’t one.

Please if you get this worked up over a manwha, please please please scroll away rather than engaging to it more and virtue signaling people.

AGAIN, for you and the other comments here that believe it is or equivalent to rape; STOP ENGAGING, I respect your opinion, you find this disturbing just as much as I find excessive death or torture in revenge plots.

I’M not forcing you to LIKE Taeha, I’m even surprised you like the other MLs here and not calling them out because they’re just as bad as him with your bases on what rape is. All I’m saying is DON’T ENGAGE IN SHIT THAT TRIGGERS YOU!

Seriously why do you guys always do this? If you’re this easily disturbed; CLICK AWAY. Just like what I do when I see a badass MC torturing the villains and shit; I CLICK AWAY.

It’s not good for your mental, you guys are literally the ones that are FORCING yourself to read it. For what? For us to tell you guys you’re right? Because your definition of rape is obviously more superior than ours? Because you think the people here are rapists and can’t separate fantasy from reality?

We’re telling you guys to FUCK OFF, this type of fantasy ISN’T FOR YOU, we’re not forcing you to LIKE IT. There are softer bl manwhas out there, Shonen Ai and other shits that are way better for your mental. STOP ENGAGING AND DROP THE BOOK.

And almost 60% percent of revenge manwha encourages violence. Killing your enemy, torturing them, ruining their lives instead of being a bigger person and MOVE ON.

I HATE torture or excessive amount of death, especially if you say the person you hated just happens to be a powerful CEO and you bankrupt them and ruined their lives. What about the people under them? What about the families of those people around them?

I don’t understand why people are celebrating someone for killing or ruining their childhood bully’s life. I mean do you think that that’s a good thing to promote? Act with violence? Exact revenge and ruin their lives without thinking about the other people that might get affected by your actions?

But even if I don’t get it and it isn’t for me, I don’t go virtue signaling them because I KNOW THAT THIS IS A FANTASY! These people can separate fantasy from reality, I CAN SEPERATE FANTASY FROM REALITY, but that FANTASY ISN’T for me so I don’t engage.

I CLICK AWAY. I FUCK OFF AND RUN TO THE HILLS BECAUSE THAT ISN’T MY FANTASY. IT ISN’T FOR ME.

I understand what you’re saying, but I still think it’s very uncomfortable in this situation to force yourself, yes I doubt we can say it’s like the same degree of a rape I’m aware but the boundaries is still a little bit crossed just by the “stop” bc he’s finding uncomfortable doing it here, but thank you for your clarification bc I didn’t read it as chansol doesn’t want it because he’s scared of being heard, so yea it’s a little bit confusing
There is also shame of not wanting you seeing in this type of situation… and so not ask for help (but ig that’s not the point here)
And the fact that taeha said that non-con is hot was kinda pushing me to this idea, he was phrasing this very weirdly

Last, I know it’s fiction and taking this seriously doesn’t very makes sense and this chapter it’s not even that bad, I just wanted do a reminder
Love and peace ppl

Believe me I will not read it and engage with things I find uncomfortable and that triggers me there is way worse than this little dub-con I know

I’m not standing on whatever high ground morals bc it’s fictional and I actually enjoy stories for their writing but that actually just bad writing but anyways I’m not gonna dig further

I’m not forcing myself on anything or forcing myself liking things just wanted do a reminder to ppl irl but I was wrong sorry, and I’m not blaming anyone who enjoys reading it bc I enjoy reading it

I talked about teaha because he was being explicit with in this chapter, but the others are not better

And mb I was not being clear on a heavy topic sorry
English is not my first language so I’m very bad at expressing my thoughts so sorry if my words was misunderstood

There's no degrees of rape. Let's remember rape is a crime and there's no variations of it. Or it's rape or it isn't.

You can call his attitude possessive, toxic, persuasive and many other things, but it's categorically not rape since Chansol went along.

Again I’m not good at English and using words, that was not my point and there is absolutely not variations or degree of rape I agree, and that was not my point sorry
And “went along” doesn’t mean it isn’t rape, what he did was kinda coercion and is still considered as sa in IRL.
What I was trying to say is this is not good irl but it’s up to you if you want to apply morals values to fiction, my point was just to a ‘reminder’ for REAL LIFE. I’m not accusing or shaming any of you pls
And I believe the author here was not trying to convey a crime scene or anything, that was not the attention, just did a kinda bad writing for me

And again sorry for my bad phrasing, pls don’t understand me

Misunderstand*

The issue here is you saying it’s not rape as if it’s fact. By any definition of the law it is rape. That’s not subjective, it’s just the truth.

Anything to defend a rapist

Mf you literally commented, take your own advice.

Yeah if you’re having fun by reading stories that depict rape you’re weird. How tf are you trying to justify getting enjoyment from watching assault.

This is rape, their explanations don’t matter because they thing rape is subjective and subject to opinion. It isn’t. It’s objective by the law’s definition. Just because you don’t consider it rape doesn’t mean that it isnt. Also, if reading noncon and assault is a “guilty pleasure” of yours, you need to seek help. it’s not virtue signaling to be anti rapist.

No means no. Full stop. You focusing on chansols reaction to assault and not taehas ACTIONS is very weird and victim blamey. You’re diminishing the experience of real people who have been raped so you can defend a cartoon manwha character.

Rape is not one uniform experience. The absence of pain doesn’t make the rape any less real. Tears, torture, and pain don’t define rape, a lack of consent does.

You deserve to be mocked for enjoying depictions of assault. That is a very clear reflection of your character.

Chanson literally DIDNT GO ALONG. He told him NO. He told him to STOP. Consent is the only thing that defines rape, and that interaction clearly displays a LACK of consent which means it categorically IS rape.

If it was rape the manhwa would have told us so, through images, exclamations, colouring and so on and so on.

We didn't have anything but him telling Taeha to stop while moaning like crazy, witch indicates we was more worried to getting caught having sex in the studio than the sex itself.

Literally if it was rape we would have known, the images are the main part of the manhwa, if they don't tells us what happened then it didn't happen.

You need to understand that your western mind is very different from someone from Asia, have you seen Asian porn once? Everyone keeps saying things like "stop, not like that, everybody is gonna hear us", is that rape scene? No, it's just they have a rape fetish, is just that they like those "we're doing something forbidden feeling".

Also, Chansol literally is one of the most gutted omegas in the universe, if Taeha tried to rape him he would have kicked this bitch in the balls first stricke.

So no, not rape. The images and characters personality and actions don't show us otherwise.

Rape isn’t one uniform experience. I have said this tenfold but the only thing that defines rape is consent. You don’t have to have the author hand feed you detailed panels of torturous rape for it to be considered valid. If a character says “no” and it is ignored, it is rape. That was us being told what happened, because that was a violation of consent, and a violation of consent that includes penetrative intercourse qualifies as rape. Just because the scene didn’t fit what YOU view as rape, doesn’t change the fact that by definition it was rape.

You are an idiot. Literally Chansol went along. You are denying the obvious because it's convenient to your twisted narrative to see everything as rape.

Authors do usually portray rape as dense and sensitive, literally I just searched up and they're REQUIRED BY LAW to warn us if there's a rapey / bloody scene. Did you find such warning on the beginning of the chapter? No, because it wasn't rape.

The story didn't tell us, the panels didn't tell us, the only thing you have is a twisted out of context "No", that clearly means he was more afraid of getting caught than the act itself. Just accept you're wrong and walk off

Just went to read the chapter, after the said "No" Taeha literally asks "do you really mean that?"

AND CHANSOL DOESN'T CONFIRM HE REALLY MEANS WHAT HE SAID. LITERALLY HE STUBLES ON HIS WORDS BECAUSE EVEN HE KNOWS HE'S LYING AND WANTS IT.

YOU LITERALLY READ JUST THE PART THAT WAS CONVENIENT TO YOU HAHAHHAAHAAAHAHAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAAHHAHA

Oh dear poor me. I’m clearly a rapist bro, I like it so much that when I was raped when I was 8 I enjoyed it so much lol. Seriously man you don’t know anyone here enough to judge them, but if that’s how it is I would from now on call ALL Y’ALL sick freaks because you all just LOVE people killing people because they bullied them in highschool.

Seriously though what the fuck are those stories? Why are we promoting violence being the way to solve problems? Like all those people ARE SO FUCKED IN THE HEAD to enjoy watching someone get tortured. My opinions are clearly correct as well, I mean are you gonna say to so many young and impressionable people here that can’t distinguish fantasy from reality that “YES BILLY, kill your bully, bust their knees and cut their toes and ruin their family’s life too!”

Honestly at this point we just have to be the bigger person and walk away, agree to disagree and all. They’re gonna stand in their high horses and spit on us like they didn’t enjoy these shit anyway.

Honestly I don’t mind people giving reminders that this CAN be considered as rape in reality at the end of the day.

I think it’s fine to be like; “Guys remember that this is just fine in fantasy” or whatever but I just hate people standing on moral high grounds and calling these out and call people SICK or calling out just ONE CHARACTER OR even LOVE and CELEBRATE when violent contents are introduced like Shutline or something.

I hate when Taeha is called rapist when the OTHERS did shit just as creepier! Like fuck man! I don’t see anyone bitchin’ when that buff guy jack his weiner off to a sleeping MC. I’m not telling you to stop the hate or these things too per se, just spread the hate EQUALLY.

I still think this isn’t rape, it’s VERY FUCKING DUB-CON and he can again scream and struggle blah blah I ain’t gonna explain this again.

And good on you for man. Like genuinely, this isn’t sarcastic, good on you for not engaging on things that trigger you. Please keep doing that.

Dense, I thought you dropped this book, why are you still here. Also out of all these men who do you think is the healthiest out of all of them?

Flash News: ALL these men are creepy assholes if they’re put irl babes, ALL THREE OF THEM. I’m not going to “force” you to like Taeha because poor you getting forced by my gun in your head right? We’re forcing you to like him.

I’m saying to fucking like Taeha, I’m saying to HATE ALL THREE OF THEM. They’re ALL sick in the head babes.

I’m surprised I didn’t see you virtue calling Taeha and these men EARLIER. When the MC and Taeha first did it, the MC was in heat and can’t consent, basically drugged. Sexual harassment from the buff guy galore, especially when he jacked himself off when MC was ASLEEP for fuck’s sake, and the two fucked him AGAIN when he’s in heat and can’t consent.

I saw your comment, I saw how you said you’re getting bullied by Taeha lovers to love him and you’re gonna drop the book because of it.

But please don’t act like this book was the IRL definition of safe and consensual sex to begin with, they’re all sick men if they’re in an irl setting. This book is an HR fucking nightmare.

Hate them EQUALLY babes, if you’re applying irl rules to this EVERY GUY HERE ARE FUCKING RAPISTS!

My point still stands. It's rape. It's not gonna stop being rape even if I go to other stories. Let's call it what it is. Also I'm not new to this, I was just hoping this story would be different, but people love the rape plot I guess.

I’m not wrong, just admit you’re willing to defend rape when it’s coming from a conventionally attractive character.

If there is no confirmation, there is not consent. You literally just proved MY point.

The bigger person? I’m not the one defending a rapist.

I do hate them all equally, the issue here is that YOU and in defense of one of them. If they’re all rapists, why are you coming to taehas defense?

Pls just know you’re in the right here. Both of the people replying to you have admitted to enjoying “non con” (rape) plot lines. So, I’m not shocked they’re so strongly in defense of taeha. They want to see him as the endgame because they wanna see more scenes where taeha forgoes any form of consent since it gets them off.

Mf when did I ever condone those stories? Being a victim yet perpetuating rape culture just makes you sad to me. Clearly you’ve got shit to unpack.

“Even he knows he’s lying and wants it”

there it is! There’s the literal defense of rape. How often do you think rapists use that logic to defend their actions? “They obviously liked it so it couldn’t have been rape” well was there verbal consent? No? Did the person tell you “no.”? Did you continue even after they said no, and didn’t give consent? Because taeha did exactly that.

Oh bro Idgf, it’s a fucking manwha for crying out loud, I just like arguing for the sake of arguing. It’s funny how people get so riled up over this, those who agree that it’s rape or not. It’s fun!

:( you making me sad dear. Can I get a kissy? Just fo me? ⁄(⁄ ⁄·⁄ω⁄·⁄ ⁄)⁄

Oh and Getho, I was talking about Your3dense in the comments, not calling you Dense or anything in case you taught I was replying to you and calling you Dense. Just clarifying UwU. That’s why I said Dense in the beginning.

Also OMG can I rant to you? Ok like, I saw Dense’s profile right? I saw Shutline in there and that manwha has dubcon too bro! Like it’s so funny.

Oh does anybody here watch Heated Rivalry? Does anybody have like a similar rec for it, I watched so much MLM content from Hannibal, Royal red white and blue, Your flag means death, and Good Omens.

I’m ITCHING for more mlm drama content since everyone is here already. Interview with a vampire…? Heard that one’s good. Is it?

Oh and Getho, you seem to be an old user, how do you like mute this? Or at least put it in a separate notification area? I love arguing here, it always gives me a laugh when I have a bad day but I hate when I open it and I thought that Swallow Me Whole or Follow the Sheep into the Abyss updated but then I get disappointed when it isn’t.

Also Follow the Sheep into the Abyss is so good, read the novel, reading the manwha, here’s to hoping the manwha does the monster design justice, it’s like a tamer more tamer and monogamous version of Profundis and if there’s one thing I love more in Profundis, it’s their horrifying monster designs, it’s so cool.

Oh for the “it’s rape gang”, if you got curious and search Profundis up, please don’t read it, as good as the monster designs are in that manwha, that story is super non-con, it won’t be good for your mental if you read them. Stay safe in your reading guys, don’t engage in things that trigger you.

… he’s not real babes. You’re stressing yourself out over a fictional character. You sound like you’re malding. Seriously do you have to respond to everyone here? I like responding because these are fun for me to talk about. Like if this causes you stress please step away, all of us here are very stubborn and obviously won’t back down to our stances so you’d really get stress here if you take it super seriously and shit. Please make sure that this doesn’t affect your mental or anything of that similar caliber, all of this isn’t real in the end okay? This is a safe space, no one is really getting rape or getting bullied, you have the right to mute.

Also I ain’t really defending Taeha. Don’t give two shit about him or what people’s opinion on him is, just hate HATE that THIS is called out and not others that are imo more fucked. Because this is supposed to be like kinky sex right? MC does want it, he just thinks that it isn’t the appropriate place to have sex in which “yes king have public decency and shit” and if you applied IRL definition it is rapey vibes to it.

I still think it isn’t supposed to be one, it’s just kinky sex shit like those scenes where a bottom MC is super tired after having multi round of sex and the MLs still insists on continuing and that he can take it, I mean obviously MC likes it a lot but that’s rape if you apply IRL logic too btw peeps.

See the problem here though? If you apply IRL logic and rules to manwhas, the fantasy kinda turns sour. Like the excessive violence and torture in revenge manwha, if you really think about it, this is fucked and morally ambiguous. And many of these romance manwha have those similar scenes to this and even more like when someone says no because they’re cooking yet they still do it, especially if the manwha frames it as teasing.

Anyway point is, Remember this is all a fantasy, learn to separate it from reality, because if you start applying every rule on irl in fantasy stuff, you really won’t have that much fun.

Anyway what was I saying? Oh yeah. Just learn to separate it, if you can’t this type of fantasy isn’t for you. That’s what I hate and a fervent supporter of —Idc about this book’s romance, I’m just here for a ride and to laugh at the stupidity and the art— people applying IRL rules from fantasy rules.

Like Swallow me Whole, is worse than this and it’s praised. If you apply irl rules even if it’s consenting, MC in that book is groomed for that role and he’s in such a low position against the Mogus. But if I think that, the fantasy is gonna fall apart as well as the fun, that’s why you have to separate it.

Separate fantasy from reality, because again most of the plot of a lot of manwhas here won’t fly IRL, just find the fantasy that is made for you.

Then why are you here? If you hate them all why are you here? Obviously not for the plot, the dubcon has been here since the beginning of the manwha.

Are you just here for the sake of arguing? Because if you are HOLY FUCK I FOUND MY PEOPLE! Same dude, it’s my way of like distressing, it’s super fucking fun to do this, I like, have snacks beside me right now giggling at this.

I’m being super genuine, no bs, no sarcasm, good for you on knowing what your limits are. You really should be dropping this fic if it doesn’t meet your fantasy, it’s fine if you get triggered on this, I don’t want you to feel bullied, so imma say this “Not rape” defenders, you’re valid, priorities your mental, stay safe my liege. If this isn’t your cup of tea and it’s poison for you, don’t drink.

Also really? This story has been pretty dubcon since the beginning, it took this long for you to realize?? The heat scenes, the guy fapping over an asleep MC, the dubcon in heat sexes that keeps happening? You need a better radar girl.

A way to spot this sooner is the genre, Omegaverse is your first warning sign they typically have a lot of dubcon, next if it’s shown the dubcon, again you had signs like the first dubcon sex between Taeha and MC. AND if you notice it starting to get weird like that buff guy fapping over MC, you RUN. As FAST AS YOU CAN. Any sign that you feel uncomfortable you RUN. Check, keep distance until you know it’s safe to go back by checking sources or just scrolling through the comments.

Like I’m one of them that think that this is way too tame and with how it’s depicted to be just a kinky sex scene and not rape but if you feel like this is rape and feel uncomfortable, it really is best for you to drop the manwha.

It’s best to stay in your comfort zone and not FORCE YOURSELF into liking this, I’m fine with the dubcon personally and I can keep my mental safe by locking the irl rules away while reading manwha so I can enjoy the fantasy because for me this gripping like watching Euphoria.

If that’s your opinion and can’t help but get triggered or upset over dubcon or can’t help but applying the irl logic here like how I can’t stand excessive violence, it’s best to run and flee.

AND my advice is. Don’t comment shit like this, like saying it’s rape or this is too violent or whatever because this would happen. People will defend it because you saying it kind of breaks the fun out of it in a sense, it breaks the fantasy by applying irl rules to it. Makes it less fun and it feels like you’re calling the people here mentally ill.

Also by doing this, not commenting and silently hating it will help you not have a sour relationship with the manwha. IF you want to come or can stomach dubcon without it affecting and it destroying YOUR FANTASY, you can come back and enjoy. If you still can’t, no harm no foul.

BUT IF YOU REALLY WANNA COMMENT ABOUT IT, GO FOR IT BABES, ITS A FUCKING OPEN SPACE, WHO GOVES A SHIT ANYWAY? I like it because shit like this breaks out and I love watching and engaging on the fight one way or another.

ANYWAY. The TLDR/ point of that yap on not commenting and silently hating it this; is just so your opinion on manwhas like this won’t sour, that’s like the MAIN point of it.

There may come a time or place where you’ll like this type of fantasy, slim chance because of how much people are fighting over this, and I don’t want that affecting YOUR FUN.

Hell not even if you begin to like it, it’s just if a slight dubcon comes your way, you might feel more icky than how you previously felt and ruin the whole genre for yourself altogether like what happens to me AND THOSE DAMNED REVENGE STORIES BRUHHHH.

Like when you look at opinions online on Good Omens s3 ending. At first you like it-ish there are problems but you can get over it but then you look at the comments then you argue then you got to war. That like-ish might turn to HATE it because you’re associating that experience with this.

Tldr: just don’t want to see someone hating bl because of this drama/war. There are so much dubcon in Yaoi, like scenes when the bottom is asking to stop after a lot of rounds of sex and the top ignores it or when they say to stop because they’re doing something but the top did it anyway but it’s framed as playful so it’s fine.

Just stay safe and enjoy YOUR FANTASY.

Yea you’re weird

I’m not ab to just stand by and watch people defend rape… I can respond to whoever I want and it shouldn’t concern you.

Fantasy reflects reality and defending clear examples of rape in fiction will eventually open the door to justifying real like rape. It’s not “kinky sex” it’s normalizing rape culture.

I’m here for the same reason people can’t look away from bad car accidents. I come back every so often because I truly wonder how much further into madness this manhwa can fall.

The reason why im commenting is because of the fact that people defend it. Rape shouldn’t be a “fantasy” and I’m well within my right to voice that, and to challenge those who find this shit fun. I AM calling the people here mentally ill because having rape fantasies is not something that should be normal and is clearly a reflection of a deeper issue.

… I ain’t talking to you. You’re not the inly one in this comment section babes.

Everyone here is weird lol, we’re literally reading shit here like men getting pregnant and gangbanged. WE ARE WEIRD, don’t act like that’s a bad thing hahaha

Ugh is there really no one here anymore? This is so f’ing boring nooooow. Ugh. I’m just replying to one person AND it’s a person that is replying to replies that isn’t for him! T -T

SO YOU DO LIKE IT. Hahahahah bro be so fr right now. If you hate it and are badly triggered by it like the others you wouldn’t be here, you’re just in denial lil bro!

Shouldn’t concern me? You’re responding to. MY COMMENT! Hahahaha you’re an attention seeker!

Also you’re such a FUCKING HYPOCRITE! Mf just self-reported his freaky ass! That means you also tune in to this slop bro, you fucking enjoy the damn car crash. You can literally look away, this shit updates like once a month so don’t give me that shit lolol.

I HATE people like YOU because you’re the one to virtue signal people that like this but enjoys this slop as MUCH as the people you’re virtue signaling are. It’s so sad, you don’t just “check in” here once in a while haha. If I don’t like something I DON’T like it, if it doesn’t match my shit I don’t read it. I don’t check in once in a while to “check” be so fr.

Just admit you like it, it’s sad how much in denial you are! “Ohhh I don’t like it but imma wait for a WHOLE MONTH SOMETIMES MORE for it to update so I can not like it even more!”

That car crash analogy was SHIT, it works if it’s a complete work and you literally can’t stop reading because it’s hooking of how f’d up it is like it’s fucking Killing Stalking or something but THIS, you waiting for an update for fucking MONTHS seriously??

I don’t “check” in once in a while for works I don’t fucking like. Jinx? Dropped that shit, didn’t checked on that. Male action works that suddenly had romance on it for no reason? Didn’t check on that either.

Your3Dense and the others LITERALLY DROPPED THIS because THEY DON’T LIKE IT. Fucking deleted it on their timeline but you still come back here because you ENJOY IT.

Don’t you DARE fucking LIE to me that you can’t “look away” when you had an ENTIRE MONTH to look away. You aren’t triggered by this you fucking ENJOY it, you LIKE the “descend to madness”.

Bitch, you’re so sad.

Fuck you’re so PATHETIC, not about liking this or anything, you already know I like this too, that would be hypocritical of me BUT THE FACT THAT YOU’RE VIRTUE SIGNALING PEOPLE THAT LIKE IT while fucking ENJOYING UT YOURSELF IS SOOOO SAD AND HYPOCRITICAL.

Dense and the others have the right to call it out, to call out that it’s rape, to be triggered and drop this manwha like it’s a hot skillet! They have the RUGHT to comment that, I don’t CARE, that’s their opinion and I RESPECT IT! BUT YOU ARE SUCH A FUCKING HYPOCRITE ITS DISGUSTING.

Yet you still come back here every update to “not enjoy” it? How pathetic is that? Your car crash analogy applies to completed works and by that it means that you literally can’t stop reading.

But you’re here, every damn time? Every update that takes a month like THE PEOPLE YOU ARE FUCKING VIRTUE SIGNALING! BITCH, YOU BETTER BE JOKING.

You’re weirder. Fucking hypocrite.

It’s like, “I’m gonna watch Euphoria but imma watch the whole season because it has some kind of hook on me. It’s so disgusting and disturbing and messy that I somehow can’t LOOK away and stop watching” THAT’S the proper car crash analogy! This shit would apply if you READ THE FIRST SEASON OF THIS AND HATED IT, or if this MANWHA IS COMPLETED AND YOU READ IT.

But you’re the person that fucking WAITED for another SEASON, WHO FUCKING WAITED FOR ANOTHER CAR CRASH! That means you LOVE the car crash BECAUSE YOU WAITED FOR FUCKING MOOOORE!

Fuck, you’re such a disgusting HYPOCRITE!

I FUCKING RESPECT THE FUCK out of Your3Dense, Urielly and the original commenters bro. YOU, YOU ARE A FUCKING HYPOCRITE.

I don’t give a flying FUCK if people comment that it’s rape, I said so myself, I LIVE FOR DISCUSSION AND DISCORD LIKE THIS, if it’s rape for you we can debate it, if you still don’t agree then “YES BABE! Go for it! You have your boundaries, put it down and fucking HATE THE WORK! Drop the manwha! BE FREE FROM THE SLOP!”

But I hate people LIKE YOU, virtue signaling and commenting this shit while LOVING IT it’s so DAMN PATHETIC! I HATE HYPOCRITES.

Mf, I AM NOT TALKING TO YOU! I’M TALKING TO MF SOSHITO! What the fuck? Hahahahah! This is so fucking funny! I didn’t ask WHY YOU’RE commenting lil bro. Ahahahah

Also such a fucking hypocrite, you fucking ENJOY THIS CONTENT! Hahaha! That’s LITERALLY THE REASON WHY YOU READ IT! YOU LOVE THE MESS, THE DRAMA, THE DUBCON, THE SLOP!

Be so fucking fr right now. That stupid ass car crash analogy isn’t applying for this situation dumbass! The car crash have already passed, this manwha doesn’t update frequently, you HAVE TO BE WAITING FOR AN UPDATE not just “checking in”.

This is the scenario you’re doing right now,

You’re frequenting a car crash prone area, you LOVE THE CAR CRASH because;

The car crash of s1 happen, the in heat threesome that in IRL terms is FUCKING RAPE since being in heat is equivalent to being drunk irl, doesn’t matter if MC liked it in the end it’s still rape because he can’t consent.

THEN the car is towed, moved and the road is paved over and fixed aka this SHIT SHOW hadn’t been updated for MONTHS but THEN you came back because you HEARD THERE’S ANOTHER CAR CRASH! There’s another UPDATE.

So I’ll ask you again, GETHO, YOU, not the others, it’s literally just you and me here since people MOVED ON and they’re ACTUALLY fucking SANE AND MATURE.

**WHY ARE YOU HERE?**

Be HONEST FOR ONCE. Don’t give me car crash analogy you sick fuck. People who don’t like this won’t come back.

People who don’t like this type of content would read s1 or seeing the buff guy jorking it to MC would RUN or fight like this before dropping the manwha like Dense.

Be fucking honest. *Why are you here?*

Seriously answer me, Why are you here?

This manwha has a slow update time AND this isn’t completed so you can’t use that car crash bs, you have to WILLINGLY come back here over and over again if you want to READ IT.

You come back in the crash zone to WATCH ANOTHER CAR CRASH.

Why are you here?

Don’t cover it up as curiosity because you know, you already know and don’t cover it up with that stupid car crash analogy.

Either you LOVE this or HATE it. No in-between especially with a dark topic like rape.

Because people here are fucking honest, not just me who thinks the Tae-whatever-his-name scene isn’t rape but also the people who hate it and thinks it’s rape.

Because people who think it’s rape, the people who watched the “car crash” read it in full and HATED IT AND LEFT didn’t fucking come back and dropped this book. While YOU, fucking came back to watch MORE car crashes.

Be serious, WHY ARE YOU HERE?

You’re the one that needs to look inside themselves bro. Because you keep on engaging in this and keep on coming back!

There’s only so much Dead Dove you can open from its bag before I finally say that it isn’t curiosity anymore. It’s enjoyment and fascination. I think YOU LIKE this content.

Because, ME, someone who HATES excessive violence wouldn’t read it and come back to “check up on it”. People here that think this shit is too heavy WILL NOT go back and “check up” on this over and over again.

Me when I’m TOTALLY over my ex but stalks their insta and socials anyway:

Also fucking funny how you think this is me or anyone here endorsing and normalizing this. So just because someone likes seeing someone get beat up in a manga that means they’re an abuser irl? Are you fr? How old are you? Or those that like reading about domestic abuse, you think they love it?

Stop being a moral police. This isn’t real, only children can’t differentiate IRL to fucking fantasy which why the fuck are they even here in the first place? Only those who have the brain capacity of a peanut can’t separate this shit. Fucking OBVIOUSLY this shit ain’t okay if you place it in an irl setting.

THIS BOOK AIN’T THE PARAGON OF SAFE SEX FROM THE VERY BEGINNING! IT’S A KINKY BOOK ABOUT MEN THAT CAN GET PREGNANT AND HAVE A WEEK OF UNCONTROLLABLE HORNY.

And you obviously ENJOY THIS BECAUSE YOU KEEP COMING BACK TO “CHECK ON IT”. Yeah right buddy, You’re the one that need to look inside themselves.

I’m ngl I’m not reading any of your crash out paragraphs. Get a therapist and seek help.

I’m here because an annoying bitch keeps spamming my notifications

Sure hypocrite.

Bitch same! There’s this guy named Getho that keeps spamming my notifications too! Like he doesn’t fucking know how to mute the convo so I have to respond back and it’s pretty funny.

Seriously, you can’t answer the question, huh? You can’t answer why to come back to “check up” on the manwha? Pathetic ass hypocrite.

What a fucking loser. Be honest with yourself. The comment section here is! Do you enjoy this content or not?! Because there isn’t a gray area for liking dubcon, you either hate or love it no in between, you don’t just “check up” on a manwha you hate! Fucking seriously man, grow the FUCK up.

You don’t HAVE to respond back, you’re just immature and feel the need to get the last word

I dont enjoy it I’ve stated that multiple times. I only keep coming back because YOU keep responding

Butch that’s what I’ve been saying too! But you know what you said? “I’ll respond however I like”. You’re SUCH A HYPOCRITE!

No no no, don’t fucking say that you’re coming back to the comment section when YOU’RE the one that said that you come back to check how bad the MANWHA will be. OMG YOU ARE SUCH A LIAR! A hypocritical liar!

“I come back every so often because I truly wonder how much further into madness this manhwa can fall.”

THAT’S what you said, you’re COMING BACK to the manwha to read it bro, not the comment. No one who doesn’t like this type of content or gets triggered by it comes back to “check on it”. Be so fucking fr.

You’re a baby! WE’RE BOTH THE IMMATURE ONES HERE IDIOT! We’re literally the only one left stoll coming back here, don’t act like YOU’RE the mature one out of the two of us because we are BOTH stubborn dumbasses.

How can you not see that? It’s me and you! You have PLENTY of opportunities not to respond like EVERYONE. You’re the same as I am, you just want the last damn word. Fuck! Out of all the people here, you’re the one I genuinely don’t fucking respect.

Not even answering my question on why he keeps reading the manwha. Mf a fucking hypocrite.

I literally did, you just didn’t like the response

Aw what am I gonna do? Loligagagogo doesn’t respect me :(
I most certainly am the mature one out of the both of us because I’m not the one crashing out and whining about the last word

Just because you don’t understand it doesn’t make it any less of the truth. Idk what to tell you, because you seem intent on arguing no matter what.

Delulu.

Still didn’t answer why you read this slop~

Oh no Getho thinks I’m immature, imma shit my pants now. T -T

Rape enjoyer~ you like this as much as we do hahaha.

Also can you STOP replying if you’re so annoyed hahaha

So can you bbg. If I frustrate you so much then stop responding

I literally did. You just didn’t like the explanation

Lmao because I’m sure you know me better than myself. There is no “we” that’s enjoying this. It’s just you sicko.

Yeah yeah yeah, why are you reading it then?

Because it’s the most BS answer I’ve ever heard! If someone really hates and gets triggers by the content here like the sexual harassment, dubious content etc. they wouldn’t have read this manwha.

Same to you babe, now give me a kiss (づ￣ ³￣)づ ⁄(⁄ ⁄·⁄ω⁄·⁄ ⁄)⁄

Nah, you said it yourself that we’re both stubborn

I’ve literally only “read” it 3x I leave it for months on end waiting to see if it ever turns around but it never does. I don’t even reread previous chapters because I DONT LIKE THEM. You act like I come back to this shit on the regular.

But regardless, I literally don’t have to explain myself to you. I know how I feel and your incorrect assumptions won’t suddenly change that fact.

Similar to rape and sexual consent in an irl context, there is NO MIDDLE GROUND IN LIKING DARK CONTENT. You either like what is being shown or hate it, nobody “checks up” on it, baby. They drop manwhas they hate and don’t like the contents of.

If you’re still reading this, there will always be some fascination you will have on this manwha because those who TRULY TRULY HATES content like this won’t continue on reading it after seeing how much sexual harassment the character is getting.

Similar to you. I like interacting with you. I love you baby, give me a kiss~

C’mon baby. Really? You’re like someone who is over with their exes but keeps on checking with them.

And who are you to determine that?

Okay and what if I am? I truly don’t understand why YOU care enough to be arguing about it for days on end and trying to force me into admitting something that literally just isn’t true because you decant understand it.

I employ you to seek professional help

Lolololol. Did you seriously just made me not be able to reply to you? Hhahahahahaha! You’re just proving that I’m right babes~

You like this content, no one with a smidge of brain cell would read this again if they hate this. There’s dead doves everywhere, warning signs, and it’s YAOI for goodness sake.

You keep on opening the package and expecting something when the package warned you of the dead dove being inside it! And there’s only so much time of you opening it before I say you like seeing the dead dove.

And do you know why I know that? Because Your3dense dropped this book, Urielly dropped this, the PEOPLE WHO THINKS THIS IS RAPE AND DOESN’T LIKE IT DROPPED THIS BOOK.

Who in their right mind reads this, sees all the warning signs, all the red flags, the rape content you HATE and continues on READING IT?

I can’t make you understand it, but your refusal to understand doesn’t suddenly mean I enjoy this content. Argue all you want, but that willl never change.

LIKE everyone I reply to and see that HATES THIS CONTENT I’ll give you and the people who are here that reading the drama the same advice; DROP THE MFING BOOK!

No one is forcing you to like this book, no one is making you interact or like this content and no it won’t get better. YOU’RE THE ONE DOING THIS YOURSELF SO YOU’RE THE ONE WHO CAN FIX IT BY STOP READING.

You can’t unkill a bird, once the dead dove is here it won’t BE REVIVED! Once there’s rape content in the book, it will always be there it will be part of the character’s trait. They’re a rapist, they did that to the main character and no amount of character development will make it better.

The guy from Jinx raped his bottom, no amount of redemption arc will change the fact that he RAPED HIM. And if you THINK THAT TAEHA RAPED THE MAIN CHARACTER no amount of redemption arc will change that and it will live in your mind for the REST of the BOOK.

There is no undoing what is done, a true happy ending for this types of books will always be the victim cutting off the abuser or keeping them as friends. And since this is a dark romance book… you understand that ain’t happening.

So drop the book if it triggers you, for your mental health, this is your PSA for people that are here.

I ALWAYS said that in almost all my replies, drop the book if this content doesn’t suit you. Because all you’ll do by coming back to it is getting triggered and disappointed over and over again.

I’m not proving that you’re right, I’m proving that you’re psychotic and I’m tired of trying to explain to you that you don’t decide wether I enjoy something or not, therefore if I say I don’t like it, then I DONT. Full stop.

I am dropping this book dipshit

Ultimately though, me, op, and everyone else who replied in disagreement with you is in the right here. You’ve admitted multiple times that this story includes rape. And that was the whole point of this discussion. What you say no longer matters when you’ve already proven me and everyone else correct. You can have the last word all you want, but I hope you leave the conversation knowing you were in the wrong side.

And for you Getho, I’m NOT trying to make you LIKE this content or admit it. I’m trying to make you SELF-REFLECT, I’m trying to make you THINK;

“Why am I here? They’re right, this doesn’t get better and even if it did the main character still got rape and harassed by the MLs and will end up with them ANYWAY. Am I fine with that knowledge? That a rapist got together with their victim? Why am I still READING IT!”

THAT’S the thought process I want to see, so you’ll FINALLY DROP THIS BOOK! STOP READING IT!

That’s why I keep on asking “WHY ARE YOU HERE?” or “You must like this content because if not WHY ARE YOU HERE?”

Because if your thought-process concludes that “Yeah, I don’t like this and this triggers me.” it will HOPEFULLY make you STOP READING IT.

I’m GOING to stop reading this, I don’t need any self reflection because I already know how I feel. But YOU do need self reflection as to why you enjoy rape, and vehemently defend your stance on it. Walk away from this questioning why you enjoy this media, because it’s not fucking normal.

FUCKING HELL! FINALLY! THAT’S WHAT I WANT TO HEAR! ٩(๑❛ᴗ❛๑)۶. DROP THE BOOK THAT TRIGGERS YOU! SET YOUR BOUNDARIES! IF THIS ISN’T YOUR FANTASY THEN STOP AND LEAVE AND FUCK OFF!

That’s what I’ve always been ADVOCATING FOR! Always what I type after hearing/reading someone DROP THIS BOOK AND STOP READING.

IF THIS ISN’T FOR YOU. IF YOU CAN’T STOMACH DARK CONTENT like VIOLENCE, DUBIOUS CONTENT, ABUSE, ETC. THEN LEAVE!

STOP READING AND LEAVE!

FUCKING FINALLY!

ヾ(☆▽☆)

… (⊙…⊙ ). Getho? Why are you still here? Do you want the last words? Are you the SAME AS ME?! ARE YOU AS IMMATURE AS ME?!

Reply and I’ll riddle your holes, MOVE ON. Bruhhhhh.

ANWAY! I’d like to give a shoutout to my friend that used this method. Literally why I broke up with my toxic ex.

Mf was keep on asking, “Why are you even with him?” “You must be sick in the head if you’re still letting him treat you like that.” “You like it getting mistreated, huh?”

ILY bestie.

I’m still here because I want you to come to the realization I’ve been trying to take you in the direction of this whole time. That something is wrong with you on a mental level and you should look deeper into why you act this way and enjoy these themes. It’s important that I make you realize you are in the wrong here, and that should prompt some self reflection. You can walk away feeling satisfied because you got the last word so you therefore think you “won” but it’s important to know you didn’t, and if anything, you’re just sad.

Getho, you WON! Good job blub! (๑•ㅂ•)و✧.

YOU FINALLY BREAK OFF YOUR TOXIC EX! FINALLY STOPPED interacting with something you don’t enjoy!!! YIPEEEE .

AND WE ALSO WON GUYS! THEY’RE GONE AND SAFE FROM THE THINGS WE READ!

FLY HIGH BUD, FLY FROM THIS FILTH!

AND REMEMBER EVERYONE! If you HATE something, STOP INTERACTING WITH IT! IF THIS ISN’T YOUR FANTASY? FUCK OFF AND RUN!

Leave us with our slop! THIS ISN’T YOUR BUSINESS! YOUR BUSINESS IS TO RELAX AND ENJOY A GOOD MANWHA YOU LIKE AND CAN STOMACH!

HAPPY READINGS EVERONE! PRIORITIZE YOUR MENTAL HEALTH!

i truly hope the satisfaction you get from having the last word is outweighed by the realization that you are a bad person, and now everyone here is well aware of it. I’ll be moving in from this conversation quite easily, but you’ll never be able to move on from the fucked up part of your psyche that enjoys rape. And that brings me joy.

If you truly think “winning” includes driving other readers away with harassment so you can stick by your fellow deranged friends, I truly don’t think there’s any helping you. You didn’t “win” in any way shape or form.

Babes…? Getho. Bruhhh. -_-.

THAT’S YOUR POINT? Seriously? Oh baby. Everyone here is mentally ill, SO ARE YOU! I mean ONLY THOSE WHO ARE SANE WOULD STEP AWAY FROM THIS ARGUMENT AGES AGO.

Really buddy, I’ve been saying that! It was literally in my replies that I enjoy this comments and I FIND THEM FUNNY! “The sane people already left” that implies I ain’t sane. Is English your second language? Because SAME BABES Lolololol.

We FINALLY HAVE OUR HAPPY ENDING! We both won! WHY ARE YOU STILL HERE?

Gasp! Do you… want the last words too? Awww buddy, you shouldn’t have. Here; I won’t reply!

HAVE YOUR FINAL STATEMENT, YOU’LL BE THE LAST MAN STANDING IN THIS! THE VICTOR OF MENTALS! THE WINNER OF THE INTERNET!

Go on, bud the CROWN IS YOURS!

LAST WORD IS YOURS! Because you don’t want it? It’s fine. GO FLY HIGH!

And THIS is my final reply.

-AMIRA REYES OUT!

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