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This is the third time I've read a manghwa where the mother abandoned them with their dad, like

Fr like girl just excused herself out of the responsibility and obligation to raise sohan

Yes!!!! I couldn’t agree more I hate both sohans parents and sihwas mom too!!! All these parents are so negligent that they gave these two lifelong trauma!!! At lease sihwa has found a way to cope and I wish so bad that Sohan let’s go of his past trauma and leaves those two behind!!! Just go be happy with pipi Sihwa and Gawin can come too!!

Exactly, I wish it was easier for him to be able to let go of his family :( just bc theyre related by blood doesn't mean he owes them anything

FOR! REAL! I have been dying to have that shit emphasized. I am equally as fuming this whole time, they're literally in the same level of horribleness. none of them even deserve such title. all Sohan's painfully horrible outlooks (i.e., thinking he should do what's "proper" because it's "family" despite him not making sense of it all; being literally fucking lost and emotionally broken, rtc.) literally stem from their fucking shit. parenting nonexistent, and literal abandonment. they can both rot in hell for all I care.

I agree Sohan's "mom" is a bad person for leaving Sohan with her abusive ex. Abandoning a child is a horrible thing that will follow that child for the rest of their life. She just opted out on being his mother and left him.

But as fucked as what his "mother" did was there's a high chance she left Sohan because he looked like her abuser, which is fucked up but tragic when you think about it. A child she was practically forced into having, a child that cost her her family and friends, stuck in a home for years being abused with no one to help her. I'm pretty sure Sohan's "mother" was really young when she had him too and I'm pretty sure she was also fully financially dependent on Sohan's father.

In addition to her being financially dependent, I bet she didn't tell the guy she ran away with about Sohan or his dad. If you have a kid to take care of it makes your ability to follow someone much harder. If the guy rejects her over her kid, then she's homeless with a child or she has to go back to her abuser. It's not like her family would take her or her son.

So yeah, Sohan's "mother" is a fucked up and horrible person for abandoning her child with her abuser. But I don't think she deserves hell (mainly because I don't think hell exists) but also because she already went through it while she was with Sohan's "father", her being put back in the situation that caused her so much trauma wouldn't undo the pain she caused nor would seeing Sohan's "father" set anything right.

Also the writing of this so far is mmm yum. Like Sohan is ironically so much like his "mother" despite her absence. It makes me wonder what she even saw in his "dad" in the first place. In many ways Sihwa has traits of Sohan's dad in how they can be immature and possessive but obviously for different reasons. It shows the difference between these traits as a flaw in a good good character and the identity of a good bad character.

I understand that this is a tricky situation but no matter the trauma I genuinely cant make myself sympathize with someone who abandons their child with someone who they KNOW is abusive. I know she most likely went through shit too but she affected a whole other being who didn't even ask to be born either. But I do agree with what you say, I just can't get myself to sympathize with her at all

And it would be a lot less worse if she only abandoned him, but she abandoned him with an abusive asshole, who again, she knew was abusive

the power of neglect and abandonment is just as worse as any forms of abuse. I acknowledge and get this point of view. however, I still personally despise her equally as much as I despise Sohan's father. having not known much about her past and upbringing—as an adult and a mother, her, abandoning Sohan to the fucker whom *she also solemnly know is a shithead is the worst thing she could've opted for*. at the end of the day, she is his mother. and her actions, with the given information about her, to me is downright selfish and horrible. again, the power of neglect and abandonment is just as worse as any forms of abuse to an aching soul that Sohan was as a child and until now.

exactly this, I didn't want to speak specifically on that since I'm not a mother but this is also how I feel

Like even if they weren't going out if that were me I would still be hurt that someone would say that even if they were gay they would never go out with me, like, ouch

Tbh, the issue with him is that he's too pushy and from what we can see, he doesn't really respect boundaries. I wouldn't like it too if my coworker suddenly just blurts out "oh you two are gay and going out!" That's not something you should just say especially in public too. It puts people on the spot. That's actually one of my biggest fears if I ever get to date a guy. I've personally already been outed before and if that happens in the workplace..... Yeah....

And also, with the prejudice thing, it's something that actually does hold weight. I've met alot of people who've said they're not prejudiced or anything but they'd shit on minorities behind their backs.

But I do think keishi was in the wrong. It was definitely something he said out of panic but I don't also fully blame him

He was too pushy but it's weird to say this was ALL his fault, but also you don't know if this character even is like that, the entire time he's just trying to help but just in the wrong way. I think it might be bc I relate to him a bit, I cannot read social cues most of the time and sometimes say something wrong without wanting to

I feel like it should be common sense not to blurt out that someone's gay and that they're dating someone from their work even if they don't have ill intentions

i agree i think i would cut some slack for that non quick-witted co-worker of them though, as a gay person

I never said it was all his fault? What I'm saying is that he IS wrong for being pushy and he needs to learn that even though he means well, it doesn't mean others will take it well. That is something we all have to learn through our own experiences.

Keishi is also just as wrong as he was because saying that is one of the most heartwrenching things to hear by dating a person of the same sex.

We KNOW that tanaka doesn't mean anything bad for suzume and keishi, he's just kinda sense. But thats also because he probably does not know how gay people can struggle with people knowing about them being gay especially if they're not out.

He is by no means a bad character at all. It's just he doesn't know enough.

I didn't say that you said that, I'm talking about the other people here saying it's his fault

This is exactly what I mean he's trying his best, he's just stupid

Btw I'm saying this as another gay person, I would probably end up lashing out too at them but then would feel bad LMAO

Might be a biased bc I have a heavy preference to ukes that look like him but still

Didn't he get saved just before they put anything in

is it only considered rape if they put something in?

I know it can be sa too but I thought it usually depends on law if it's rape or sa

There a real condition called sexomnia ....

I also meant the whole omegaverse thing but I didn't know that was a thing either wtf that's terrifying