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Yeah, I think the same. It bugs me too... But I think that Ken was in a dark place, he denied his feelings, buried them and to ease my painful heart I like to imagine that during sex with those... girls he was actually thinking about Kirara...

For sure he thought about Kirara, but there was still no need with so many girls? first of all poor those girls and like he could’ve waited and watched whether or not he will forget these feelings, be open about them or fall in love with someone else without... you know messing around with other people... it’s just that typical experienced seme troupe :((

My issue is how clearly Ken doesn’t care that he used and tossed all those girls. At this point I don’t even like Ken simply for how he treats the people around him including Kirara for the most part. I can completely understand the self loathing and internalized homophobia leading to self destructive behavior, but has Ken never apologized for it and we’re suppose to just accept it as readers with the rational that he was in a dark place and is snoot nose teenager? There are plenty of people who suffer trauma to varying degrees and don’t behave the way Ken does nor have ever wanted to. He just did it because it was easier than confronting his issues. I actually have known people exactly like Ken in real life who you’d consider promiscuous and emotionally stunted who at some point had to look in the mirror and come the realization they’d never be happy using people or things to fill a void. Having a high libido is different than using sex/ drugs/ alcohol -whatever Vice- to overcompensate. If the author actually gave Ken more self awareness in his actions in how he routinely hurts people in some way it would actually make him a way more well rounded character. For example how this directly would relate to Ken’s father having been unaware the extent his sons felt hurt by his lies. As of now Ken comes across at least to me as a selfish, impulsive, hypocrite but is excused for all of it for simply being in love with Kirara and being “nice” to Kirara once in a while. The boy isn’t even close to being emotionally stable for a long term relationship which I fear if this were based in reality he’d easily become emotionally abusive to Kirara as insecurities turn outward.

I should also add while i agree to some extent with what the translator has written about Ken for Chapter 25, you can still be critical about Ken’s behavior beyond the scope of angsty teen with family issues. While I don’t expect Ken to make a 180 I’m tired of author relying on the tsundere trope as a crutch to stagnate Ken’s development. I don’t want Ken to all of a sudden to become some perfect loving boyfriend, I would just like him to acknowledge or begin to acknowledge he’s actually taken out a lot of misplaced anger on everyone around him to the point he’s left extensive collateral damage. That’s actual growth.

As teens and young adults we hurt people more easily.
We're still really selfish and self serving, I would carelessly have sex with and then just move on.

I think as you get older (and experience being hurt yourself) you start to realize the world doesn't revolve around you and your needs. That others have their own feelings and heart ache.

And I'm trying to not sound like a man hater here.... ╮(￣▽￣)╭
But lets be honest... men can more easily sleep with someone and then walk away.
Feeling more remorse and having sex with feelings is more of a female thing I think.

I completely agree in that regard. I'm merely pointing out my issues with Ken more so because everyone continues to give him a pass simply for verbally conveying his like for Kirara finally. It does not erase all the harm Ken has done to various people including Kirara and it really should be acknowledged if the author wants to give Ken a proper character arc. Ken's not a bad person nor would I pass such judgement on a wayward teenager, it's rather he doesn't seem to care about anyone except for Kirara and even that he does almost begrudgingly. Being an angsty teen with issues is customary, being a colossal asshole is by choice. I want to be in Ken's corner but I've actually met people like Ken in real life and the author is sugarcoating how toxic they can be in their self destruction. In addition with the recent chapter of Ken's exgirlfriend simply being used as a villain rather, it only validates Ken's actions as acceptable or even minuscule compared to the actions of a psycho ex. Casual sex is completely fine, using people isn't. Controlling and emotionally abusing your crush out of desperation and insecurity isn't cute. YET all of this is explained away as the tsundere characteristic. I should mention I loathed the tsundere trope for this very reason it's extremely problematic in often gaslighting verbal and emotional abuse as playing hard to get or being shy. I also do not like how misogynist yaoi is as well, let alone how authors routinely use women as either props or validation for toxic male behavior. I expect the author instead to ignore any of the points I've mentioned and will likely take the easy route of ex is bad, Ken is good as some boorish explanation for Ken's seemingly "nicer" demeanor.