Yoooooo, just a random question because i got curious after seeing a comment : i got a female boner.
Do you guys usually masturbate while reading yaoi?? I mean... personally, i do most of the time when i read yaoi (except if the sex scenes are too short or too censored). And i go for shounen ai when i want to just read xD.
DANG!! but you can pretty much masturbate with any piece of your body. If that part makes you feel good, that’s all what it takes.
Personally, i don’t think i have much erogenous(omg how to write this word) zone except my dick. I don’t feel much from my ass/nipples so I think you are lucky if you have sweet spots in unusual places :P.
Yes, but the main point of the question is ‘so you masturbate while reading yaoi’
Now, yes it has to do with yaoi, but it is still a question that is outside of ‘asking about/for a manga’
Honestly, I don’t know the exact terms, and how far you can push these rules.
But, I’m not gonna ask, “What’s your favourite scent of candle? I saw a certain scent in a yaoi, and it grasped my attention.”
Yes, I understand that you don’t understand the terms of the rules here, but I reassure you that this does not violate the terms at all. You may feel awkward about this inquiry, but this website is full of awkward and inappropriate things, It shouldn’t feel out of place at all.
I do not understand why this conversation still continues with this now being resolved.
No, saying it’s fiction doesn’t mean I condone to rape, at all.
As long as nobody is getting hurt from it, I’ll read as much of it as I want. And I’ll enjoy it.
Fictional crimes aren’t crimes. As long as nobody takes the manga out of context, it’s fine.
I’ve used this example on multiple occasions, you wouldn’t watch an action movie, then proceed to buy a gun, and re-enact the scenes you’ve seen.
Well Alex was pretty normal brain wise. He wanted a sex friend and thats it. His back story was not necessary but authors always feels the need to add sad back stories somehow.
The MC was kind of stupid for hoping too much and making that scene when he got drunk. But he was still much better than all those ukes that are useless, lets others sexually harrass them or just makes a shit ton of drama the second their seme talks to a girl.
I think it’s funny that when theres an antagonist and if he is hot. As long as he didn’t rape the uke, readers are craving for him and will forgive anything. Brutally beating up the uke or ruining uke’s life is no big deal. But if he rapes the uke, that is too much and readers wish the rape didn’t rape because suddenly it’s too much.
Like yes, rape is bad, but they are so many things that can do as much damage as rape.
So yea... it’s pretty sad that so many readers are highly against rape, but are greatly accepting in other abusive behaviors. GG
For example : Back to School and Walk on Water.
I think there's a lot of readers against rape because there's just too many mangas with it...literally every other one. Whereas, the other examples you mentioned are much less common and therefore not discussed frequently. But personally, I've gotten used to rape because disliking it would cut the amount of yaoi manga I could read by a lot.
not trying to side with anyone but there's a reason why no one is complaining about Harada. Harada writes fucked up stories alright, but she never, not even once, romanticizes rape and abuse. Readers all know the relationship is toxic, and not one of them is lusting over her characters or anything. She basically shows what toxicity in relationship is like.
It's funny, cos I don't think you understand my point at ALL. And I think you just read what I wrote very briefly because you want to stick to what you believe in. I said,"Harada writes fucked up stories, but she NEVER ROMANTICIZES any of those things." There's a difference between portraying a real toxic relationship and making rape/abuse etc a romantic thing. I've asked people what they thought after reading Harada's works, and everyone is aware of what those relationship would bring and is disgusted. They know what she's portraying there is something bad and something they should not do. But what about the mangakas who write about a seme who rapes the uke because he loves him and the uke accepts him because of of love? Yeah, that is what makes people uncomfortable. Especially someone like me who personally knows a rape and abuse victim. Because even just helping them get through it and recover from the trauma is already like hell. And because of that, whenever we see people portraying rape and abuse very LIGHTLY in fictions, we feel uncomfortable.
Also, just want to add that I don't read Back to School (stopped after first few chapters) and haven't finished Walk on Water so I don't know what the issues that are being brought up. But I do avoid mangas that romanticizes things like rape/abuse etc. And, if you still don't get my point, I'll emphasize this again. I never said anything about loving Harada's works. My point is, at the very least, she doesn't make it seem like rape is romantic. That's what it is. I do understand your point about people who are treating abusive relationship in fictions like it's nothing. ABuse, rape, pedophilia are all the same; they are a crime and should never be be taken lightly. Arguments about this have never stopped till this day. So it's pretty tiring to keep debating. Let's finish this in peace.
Peace That being said, as a writer myself, I do always wonder what authors who write stories like that have in their mind. Like the author of Killing Stalking, and Harada. I mean, for me, I won't write disturbing stories, cos I get bothered by it, no matter what message I'm trying to deliver. So yeah, these authors are very...peculiar...I guess.
For Back to school and Walk on Water.
The real problems were the readers. The MCs didn’t end up with the trash seme. But because they were hot, readers were craving for these semes, hoping for the MC to end up with them, despite all the nasty stuff they have done (which i consider worst than rape for one of them).
As far as i went (im probably like 6 chapters behind) no McQueen hasn’t been abusive. But people are quite fast to attack McQueen because they prefer Chang. Chang being the guy who turned the MC’s life into shit. MC is stuck in a debt since years because Chang tricked his father. Not to mention Chang pretty much cut off all ties with Ed after tricking him into a big debts, even though they were like brothers before.
I do agree Chang is hot, but i dont see wheres the romance in years of hard labor trying to pay off a debt.
And even then, the readers love Chang and are saying his character is very good and interesting. He is just doing bad stuff for the story to be more dramatic, without a proper setting to make it interesting.
Okay I see. I haven't read the comments so I didn't know that readers want Ed to end up with Chang. I pretty much know some spoilers but haven't read. Well yeah I kind of agree too. When I see a hot character, I acknowledge their looks. Like Chang for example. But like you said, just because I think he's hot doesn't mean I would justify his deeds. If he is being a bastard to Ed then no, I don't want them to be together.
Toxic relationship is toxic, there's no justifying it. But if McQueen is hurting Ed too, be it mentally or physically, I don't want them to be in a relationship too. Perhaps it's better for Ed to be alone. Lol. Of course, i haven't read so I don't know the whole story.
LF a yaoi :
Uke is with the yakuza (but not a boss, like a low level yakuza) and the seme is a cop. (I dont remember if they both knew each other’s job) At some point, the seme capture the uke and put him into jail but the seme wants to still be a couple and wait for the uke to be out.
Sorry I don’t know the one you are talking about but here is a recommendation for a similar story (just reversed roles) http://www.mangago.me/read-manga/anata_no_tame_nara_doko_made_mo/
LF a yaoi:
I’m pretty sure the uke was related to the yakuza and seme was a police officer. They were a couple but never mentionned their work. At some point, the police officer arrest the uke (but still want to remain a couple and wait until uke is released from jail).
I think later on the seme dressed as a girl, and let a guy *rape* him, and then attacked that guy(maybe even killed him). It was all planned from the police officer to get *raped* to get revenge on that guy, i think that guy attacked or raped the uke in jail.
Anyone know what manga this is
After reading many omgaverse, i’m starting to think : why are omega able to go to highschool? To university?
The society sees them as sex toys, literally. Why would you allow them to go to school? That doesnt makes sense. They wont get a job, and if they do, they will be used as prostitute. Seeing how Omega are treated, it would make more sense if they stopped school early and prepare to become a *housewife or househusband*. Omegas can be raped and beaten, no one gives a shit. If author is going to give a sexist ideology to the characters in the story, they should go through with it.
Also, that heat cycle, wtf. Omega’s pheromones are always non existant but then boom a shit bomb appear and they cant even control any of it. Wouldn’t it make more sense if atleast, outside of heat cycle, they could have a good amount of pheromone that they can control same as alphas.....
Also, when affected by Alpha’s pheromones, omega gets excited, i get it, BUT never consider using their dick on the alpha NOPE. Like bruh did author forgot the omega has a dick??? Being an omega shouldnt mean you want to be fucked only, thats so stupid.
And then the bond... what if Alpha dies, no more sex for life for omega? LOL
Also how come we haven’t seen Alphas with harem made of omegas they made(or forced) a bond with? Considering how Alphas treats omega, its surprising they dont just bite any cute omega they see.
The only good point of this universe is men giving birth, everything else is just half-assed stuff.
1. Omegas are 'humans' too. They have a right to education. Just because they have heat cycles doesn't mean that they are just truly a nuisance to society.
2. The way the mangas are set make the 'social classes' of aplha, beta and omega so separated and dramatic because its a reflect of how society used to view women.Women used to not get education, and, things like a women libido and periods (menustration) were seen as taboo and whore-ish. Its the sexist and nasty side of society.
3. Some do. Ive read an omegaverse where the omega liked to top. However i guess its just natural that if a certain place naturally wanted to get fucked, then theyd want to get fucked. Each to their own I guess.
3. when an alpha dies, the bond breaks. its just the emotional bond that an omega might find hard to get over.
4. Alphas and omegas can only pair with one person at a time.
hope that helped a bit ٩(๑❛ᴗ❛๑)۶
1./2. I wasnt saying they were a nuisance to the society. But they are seen and treated as toys in most case, so its kinda stupid they go to school (its a waste of money for them/gouvernement, not sure if gouvernement pays anything in japan). And in most stories, omega gets sexually assaulted at school/work. With this mindset, i think its pretty retarded that omegas actually go to school/work. It would make more sense if they had arranged weddings and stuff like that, like the women when they were all housewives.
3. Since an omega is techically a mix of both genders, its quite absurd that they almost all react as the female role when controlled by pheromones. They are omega, yes, but also male.
3.(you put 3. Twice xD) yea well i expected that but somehow theres no reason for the bond to disappear. The alpha could go away for years and the bond wont disappear but if he dies, it does? There doesnt need any maintenance for the bond to stay but if alpha dies, magical power come to take off the bond.... thats pretty half assed logic.
4. Why would the alpha not be able to bond with more? He isn’t in anyway affected by the bond. The bond is literally for the Alpha to stop his omega to go with others. (The same reason why marriage was made, for men to publicly claim their women) The alpha has no mark on his body and he can still play around but you are saying he cant bond with multiples partners? Once again, half assed logic.
I mean, the situations probably have many similarities, but omegas’ situation is probably much worse. In most stories, omegas are just casually raped at school/work. I saw many stories where omegas are used as prostitute to make the client sign a contract.
Omega’s pheromones just casually becomes out if control from time to time and then they become a rape-magnet.
Idk the situation for black people in the US in the 50s, but if they went to school, they probably had something to gain from it. While in many omegaverse’s story, omegas have nothing to gain from it, it’s literally dangerous for them. They need a bond or they are rape-magnet, and when they get the bond, the cliché take over and the MC becomes an housewife.
you're finding loopholes where there arde none.
1. I get where you may be coming from but again, omegas a r e humans too and therefor have the right to persue education if they wish to. When women and/or black people were perecuted and raped ect in the past, they still persued education and jobs because they were fihting for their equal rights as humans so why can omegas do the same?
3. Its not really obserd though. Think of a male omegas anatomy as a womens because it performs the same function and sensations. The dock of an omega is basically a big clit. Sure, it feels good to stimulate but if you were wanting to have sex surely youd reckognise of course theyd want to be penertrated. Theres female out there that like pegging ect which is also fine but you wont get much out of sex if your not stimulated fully. Again, some omegas do top, Ive seen it before but at hte end of th day, doing what makes u feel best in sex is key.
3 number two (lol sorry for that) there is a reason for the bond to disappear because one is literally dead lol. Its a phenominon that science can't explain. Also bonds arent just for that. Its also to reduce omega's heat cycle affects and to further develop depth in love and relationships with eachother. Likening bonding to marriage makes no sense because marriage doesnt affect you physically in any way. Also, the alpha can't really 'still play around' because once a pair is bonded, theyll only be fully sexually satisfied with eachother and if they are apart for long periods of time, it causes anxiety and insomnia. And, if youre really gonna liken it to marriage then he CANT just bond with multiple lol. you cant marry more than 1 person in over 4/5 of the world.
1/2. Point is, the society in omegaverse dont even treat omegas as human beings. And i’m pretty sure for a long time, when women’s rights were limited, they also had a limited access to school.
3. Well they also have the male anatomy, thats my point. Saying an omega cant be satisfied without getting dicked, is the same as saying that a normal male cant either.
3.2 It can’t be explained because it just doesnt make sense, even if we take the rules of that universe. Theres no reason for the mark to disappear just because Alpha died. Also i have never heard that Alpha needs to do it with his mate to feel satisfied, thats weird.
you dont understand the system... first of all back then university wasnt even worth it or necessary unless you wanted to become an astrophysist or some shit. Secondly, there were many jobs available for black people, just as much for white people. It was about racial segregations. for example a white doctor wouldnt want to treat a black patient and hence there were black doctors . Messed up, but thats how it worked. Also obviously its not useless because many of the black scholars changed history and ended legalised racism and racial segregation for society as we know it today.Please make yourself more educated with systems of humanity before stating something so insensitive
I am pretty sure i already stated that i didnt know much about that matter.
Thing is, in omegaverse, the omegas have really hard time at school, and even if they go through it and even get a degree, in most omegaverse, omegas gets rejected for being an omega, and if they are taken, in many cases the omega is treated like a sex toy. Which is why i think its pretty weird that in a world with that point of view, it would make more sense if stuff such as parents marrying their omegas to alphas was the usual.
Have you seen this one? http://www.mangago.me/read-manga/dependency_x/
the point of me calling you a dumbass is the fact my country is literally across the globe to yours, and our histories dont even really connect at any points and somehow i know more about your neighbouring country than you do. and the fact that you tried backing your lack of knowledge up with "the US colonised australia" (which they didnt) is laughable like man you literally couldve just googled "who colonised australia' and we wouldnt be here
Me not knowing that much about US still isn’t an argument to call me dumbass. Also, the fact you know more about the situation about black people in the US in the 50s doesn’t mean that you know more about US than i do. And yes I was wrong about who colonised Australia. No I didn’t check on google because I thought I knew the answer. You don’t go check on google every time you say something because you assume you already know it, and sometimes you make mistake, it’s normal.
http://www.mangago.me/home/photo/3702018/#image
This is an image from a manga that me and like 20 people are looking for but we dont know where it’s from. Pls help
Just a random thought that came to me. Isn’t it weird that most of the yaois has a big focus on how hard it is to be a gay man (which usually leds to lots of anxiety and then drama gets in) and yet these are mostly written by women.
To be honest, these kinds of plots are quite boring and it feels over dramatic to me. It just takes too much space in yaoi overall and is used as an excuse to add drama over drama.
I’m just giving my thoughts and wants to see what others think.
Well, Yeah I agree, It's not just Yaoi though... "Most" shojos have a brainless, useless, naive little virgin girl as the heroine, and are excessively repetitve and cringy. And they are also mostly written by women....!
That's why, no matter the genre, I try to always look for stories that intrigue me somehow, whether it's the plot oyself, or the world the setting or the characters personnalities...etc..etc. This of course, also includes the Art and illustrations.
I agree anyone can write about any persoective, but the stereotype uke body’s reactions are so absurd
(such as getting a hard on from someone barely touching the dick. Loosing all strenght when said boner appears.)
And basing a story’s on the insecurity of being gay is like a sterotype at this point.
And I doubt the authors (not all of them but theres just so much)actually dig info about gays’ Insecurities or sexual responses on men’s body.
Imagine all men writing about woman’s point of view and making it seem like your period is easy shit. « 1 drop of blood every day for a week, one week a month, thats it ». Imagine all the books about women MC where your periods are described like that.
Well what i really hate is when a uke is in a relationship and then an antagonist arrives and the uke can’t reject him too hard(because that wouldn’t be polite!!!), the uke feel bad for him and lets him in his house, uke won’t be mad at him even if antagonist force a kiss and tries to do more, uke won’t be able to physically resist the antagonist if his dick is touched (because thats a magic button to turn off men’s energy, right?). That kind of attitude i can’t tolerate when uke is already in love with someone else. Is it also like that in shojo manga?
I really like Omegaverse because males can give birth, but whats the point of it if in the end you give him a woman appearance, woman’s clothes and call him wife, just make it an heterosexuel manga at this point. I’m not complaining but I don’t get the point of making a yaoi and yet overly feminizing some characters.
I got some notifications that *X topic has a new comment* soni check it but there are no new comments. Anyone know why?
Because the site is glitching a little for the past few days now. There was a series of these things happening a couple years ago, too. It went back to normal eventually then so I hope it also will soon now.