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I like the artstyle and the start of the story, but I took a pretty dissapointing turn imo.
I mean i knew it was gonna be like this because it seems to be impossible for bl authors to create an actual concensual healthy relationship, but I was just dissapointed about this one since it was tagged as psychological with a pretty realistic premise : Aoki having masochistic traits manifested by his abuse as a child.
I get that the point is him getting to know his sexuality and stuff that turns him on, but like bro still got sexually assaulted and blackmailed by Tengoku. Discovering a sexuality is one thing but its still legit just assault and I thought the story would aknowledge it even a little and maybe show how it affected him with noticing things about himself or something, but no, they end up in a cute relationship even though Aoki was legit being blackmailed into sex at the start like what
Tengoku's little fucking substory pissed me off so bad like, dude,,, you steal all of your brothers boyfriends and when he finally lashes out at you suddenly youre like..omg my brother hates me..now i can never show my feelings to anyone... like bro stfu noshit hes pissed at you?? AND HE EVEN RAN AFTER YOU APOLOGIZING WHEN IT SHOULDVE BEEN THE OTHERWAY AROUND OMG cry about the fact that ur parents arent home by yourself why tf are you making it your brothers problem like this motherfucker started practicing his manipulation techniques young bruh fucking creep
Carlos is the only one who called out his creep behavior when Tengoku tried to come onto him aswell and his fucking fiancee just laughed about it like "lol! Oh classic brother just sexually assaulting people !!" and Carlos still tries to have a relationship with him ?? Like whyy is this adult fucking man coddled so much he faces no consequenses for his rapey ass actions bruhh
Also why tf did they have to add the fucking fujoshi bruh The romanticized toxic relationship is enough, why tf did the author have to throw a fetishsizer in the mix as well.. I feel like the more I read the more this story is pissing me off, but I guess I'm drawn to bullshit cause thats what this story is and I'm still reading
Man like i feel so sad seeing how much effort Aoki is putting into the relationship.. apologizing for mistakes he makes, wanting to be open with the relationship like broo do that with someone who deserves it not your rapist please,,
And if thats not enough I was literally about to chew through my phone when the 'meeting the mom arc' came along ohmyydaysss bro of fucking course the author is about to humanize her, and not really aknowledge the abuse in a proper way omfg.. and the fact it was Tengoku who was comforting Aoki about the abuse bro dont fucking play with me rn bro thats so fucking hypocritical coming from this fucker
I Was actually so surprised when he noticed himself in that moment like, oh shit im lowkey as bad of an abuser as his mom lol! ..But then I remembered that this is a fucking manga bl so ofc theyll still end up together, and obviously the assault is in the past and now they've gotten to know eachother and are in such a healthy relationship, so it would make no sense for them to break up over such trivial things!!!!! ..I swear I lose more brainsells the more I read these
Anyway I've been reading this manga since the first chapter hit this site. I Just reread it and I just couldnt shut up about it anymore lol
It had a lot of potential but the classic rapist to lover trope that the bl authors love to use ruined it, I was expecting better but I guess life is unfair lol
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Its giving whiplash that the author is actually aknowledging the rape as what is is and Nakwon realizing the severity of it but is still pursuing a relationship with Mokhwa.. like huh??
Just don't include rape into the plot then bro what the hell it just feels unnecessary to the plot like he could have just beat him up instead or the author could've come up with literally anything else like how are you gonna make a rapist character and then start being like aww... but he regrets it now so its ok NO?? hes a fucked up person why are we trying to excuse his actions??
the aknowledgement feels pointless in the end cause i know they'll somehow end up together.
idk why in bl the always have to make a rape apologist plot bruhh,, like the plot is pretty good and the characters aren't flat and have personality, but it all gets ruined with the rape apologist mindset it's so annoying how often authors love to use it
First of all, in the recent chapters we are seeing a lot of emotions from Nakwon just because of that rape.
Secondly, the rape was establishing Mokhwa thinking even the love is violence.
To your first point,, (like I was saying in my first post)I can see that he feels bad about it bro the author is really fucking hammering it in so duh,
and as to your second point okayy,, why tf are they making us the emphatize with the assaultor and portraying him all cute and shit trying to win Mokhwa over then whats the reasoning for that
My problem isn't really the themes in the story, but the fact that the author is clearly trying humanize and make the audience feel bad for Nakwon and make him seem like a good romantic canditate to Mokhwa in the recent chapters.. Like how its haha funny and cute how much he does to get Mokhwa to smile for example
If the Author was truly serious about portaying an unhealthy powerdynamic in a toxic relationship, the cutesy wholeshome shit would'nt be there, or atleast portraid in such a positive way (and lets be forreal I am severly skeptical that this story is going that deep into the psychology of abusive relationships)
I'm really as confused as Mokhwa as to why Nakwon is behaving so erratic with his emotions towards him, kinda looking forward to seeing what kinda bullshit backstory the author is gonna pull to explain his actions lmaoo
Yeah. I forgot to include my third point. Most of these webtoons depend heavily on the mature theme to get more people to read them. This one for 50 chapters has given us almost nothing. I think the rape was more of a marketing stunt. Anyway, you are right about them not really thinking that deeply. In reality, I'd never even see the face of my abuser but in stories there apparently can be a retribution arc lol
The rape makes sense in this chapter because this isn't the first time Mokhwa has been through it. He mentions it in one of thr chapters that he has experienced all this in prison. So in HIS POV it is nothing out of the ordinary. Its just another bully trying to establish his dominance. (He said something similar - I don't quite remember)
Now with Naekwon regretting his actions and somehow falling for Mokhwa, it is confusing to Mokhwa. Sure the author shouldn't just excuse a rapist. But Mokhwa is a hardcore criminal here (or was) - remember he murdered his sister's bf, then joined a gang probably killing many others. So Mokhwa shouldn't be excused for that either right? Why is he being portrayed largely as a nice guy when he is a murderer and a gangster?
Naekwon would be the good guy in this case because his torture of Mokhwa was to get information on a gang and for the greater good.
My point being neither of them is good. This manga is about adult themes. Mokhwa had a redemption arc (like he went to prison, opened a flower shop, cut off his ties with the gangs etc).
It's the same with Naekwon - he is trying to be better.
I'm sorry, but just cause this is a mature manhwa doesnt mean that adding rape in to the story makes sense in any way lmaoo like I wouldnt be complaining if it was actually done properly, but do you really think its the best portrayal of it, and that it adds to the plot in any way? He was beat up in prison, as well so the author could have literally gone with that, but theres some weird rape fanservice instead. What I'm trying to say is you could've literally swapped the rape with Mokhwas ass getting beat and nothing would've changed in the plot, so yeah I find it very unnecessary.
And Mokhwa killing his sisters bf is because he tought he was gonna do something to her like?? How are you comparing that and rape by a corrupt authority figure bro lmao
Both of them are bad people, but personally I think a rapist is kinda worse in this situation, especially when he's trying to pursue a romantic relationship with him. And with your logic do you see Mokhwa trying to rizz up his victims friends/family memeber or something ?? Also he didnt even joing the gang cause he really wanted to/just because unlike Nakwon
You are justifying murder with those "Mokhwa being a good guy" reasons right? Same argument can be there for Naekwon that he is a cop torturing a criminal for information on a gang. Information that he won't give up after being beaten up. In your own words what is Naekwon the cop supposed to do? Allow civilians to be harmed because a convict has gang loyalty. You completely missed my point.
Secondly, I am not comparing murder to rape. I am saying both of them are equally bad. Mokhwa killed multiple people and got beaten up in prison but didn't say a word about his previous gang did he? Naekwon is a shitty person too and he rapes a convict to get information (not "just because"). So how is one worse than the other?
Raping Mokhwa didnt matter in the end since he isnt letting out a peep about it after being raped so was it really necessary?? That is literally my whole point like im not gonna lie i dont give a shit about who murdered people and whos a powerhungry cop. My problem is that the author added an unnecessary rape scene. It didn't add anything to the plot, and the author is romanticing a relationship a rapist and his victim (who has murdered people, i know) with a huge power imbalance. The rape isnt a significant part of the plot, since it could've been easily swapped out with something else. The only person being affected by the rape is Nakwon himself, which feels gross since he is literally the perpetuator.
If the both would have been violent to oneanother (no, i dont mean that as in raping eachother) I would understand, since they'd be in a similar power dynamic (like in Hannibal lmaooo)
Also,, girl hes literally a cop just beacuse its fun and he literally viewed fucking with Mokhwa as entertainment to him..so yes it was "just because" bro did we read the same fucking comic
Anyway idk why ur so hard trying to justify a rape scene...like do you see the author romanticing Mokhwa murdering the people? Do we see a multiple panel page about that? When Nakwon shoots the guy, do they give it the same treatment as the rape?
Super surprising, but no, tf they don't because one of the two is romanticized and you can take a wild fucking guess which one it is.
I see now that your issue is you are horrified with a fictional depiction of rape in a manhwa about murder and gangs and cops and prisons. So I won't argue with you further on this because the solution to that is to just stop reading the manga.
The dynamic here is not fucked because mokhwa doesn't see rape as anything out of the ordinary. He has been raped in prison before so Naekwon is just a bully to him. Again I am not normalizing rape here, I am just saying that in the character's POV this thing isn't horrendously wrong. Naekwon has the whole switch from a shitty corrupt cop to a half decent guy due to it. So in my opinion it adds to the plot. It isn't unnecessary because Mokhwa views people as either enemies or friends and this scenario makes Naekwon into his enemy. Refer to ch 9 when he is taunting Mokhwa using all his friends and family just to get a rise out of him. (I could dig in deep about the rape chapters too where he did ask him about his gang members before assualting him but I realise it would make no difference to you and would be a waste of my time)
You are talking about violence. Mokhwa was literally stabbed to almost death. That didn't impact him in any way, shape or form, as he didn't turn against his gang. So why would violence between these two be any different?
I would like to stop here because this whole debate happened when "jinx" had rape scenes. If readers can't take the author's choice of using rape as a plot device then they should just stop reading it.
Okay bro lmaoo
Literally totting my brain reading that shit cant lie
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