Now I wanna know,can y'all comment either YES or NO if y'all feel pity for Doyeon because of her past as a kid after reading this chapter?...I vote FUCK NO.
I mean at 40yrs old why must Jinjoo's only options for love be a pedophile and a sex addict,poor thing can't catch a fucking break.
All those who hated on Morae I bet now you can see why she never trusted Doyeon and why she kept her at arms length,think about this, who the fuck is Doyeon really...since her whole personality was an act,she was never a good kid because how the fyck could she leave her ophan brothers and sisters and go off with the adaptive father after the kids did all that work for her birthday,they were so tired that they fell asleep,Doyeon got what she wanted and said fuck them kids and she bolted,Doyeon is mental.
I still hate morae because she was willing to turn blind eye to the assault those men would've done to jinjoo and helped them, but yeah...doyeon definately needs help
Doyeon was acting because she was a kid herself and she wanted the parental love she never got, but that kinda trauma is bound to make u become a people pleaser or put on a facade.
What Doyeon did to Jinjoo here is unacceptable, but her as a kid, was just a kid trying to survive on her own.
Also Morae hated her because even her adoptive parents wanted doyeon to fill the space her brother left, and Morae who was grieving felt rage at that and took it out on Doyeon
bro what kind of stupid fuck ass comment is this? what kind of orphan wouldn't want to be adopted? girlie was suffering in that place, r u stupid or something, morae isn't a fucking angel, she just hated doyeon because she thought she was replacing her brother and that's literally it. that's why people are hating on her, we're hating on doyeon because she's being a fucking loser now, but that doesn't mean you can use that to justify morae's stupid ass.
stupid fuck
Yes what Marae did to Jinjoo was wrong for sure but think of Morae's POV as a kid,her brother died and this kid came into her home and was given to her as a sister and she still was in grief over her brother and that new sister wore a face always smiling,even the teacher said,Doyeon smiles when situations don't call for it and to a kid it would be weird for Morae to be around her with that personality when she's hurting about her brother's death.What if Doyeon was more genuine and ask Morae to tell her about her brother and what if Doyeon had normal responses of emotions don't you think their relationship would have been better,I think so.
The user named ( shu ) who made a that dumass comment aimed and me then ran and blocked like a coward,you just showed me that you didn't want to have a discussion but just wanted to show you ass,I bet you have another account reading me so here goes, I'm not gonna explain anything about my comment to you but say this to you,I'm sick of you dumb ass kids who don't understand shit and on here so fuck you and your dumb ass mother who gave birth to you and your father dumb too,y'all 13yrs old and without understand and want to have opinions about things you don't understand.smh
But Morae's parents are the one who took a liking to Doyeon, it's not her fault she has to live with a sister who is lashing out her grief at her.
Doyeon is not evil, she always smiles because that's how she had to parent her own self. Being mature in situations where one would act paranoid.
No one in the orphanage thought her as 'abnormal' they all thought she's mature for her age (which again stems from childhood trauma), and only her supervisor manages to see how she's suffering inside due to her facade of people pleasing.
She was a child with trauma that comes with being an orphan, of course she will have emotions which are not 'normal'.
When u justify morae's terrible actions due to her trauma I think a little understanding towards the child doyeon's trauma is needed as well....
I respect your comment and this is the type of reasonable comeback that I look for and respect but to the others who show their ass I will continue to cuss them out.hahaha
Doyeon is an asshole,I said it hundreds of times,now do y'all believe me.
girl i been w u, shes been fucking crazy since her husband came back
People feel bad for Doyeon but I just don't because if you really look at her character since childhood she was never genuine,she has been acting nice all her life to get what she wants from people and thr other kids were genuine amd they all got adopted before her,Doyeon has always been calculative and manipulative and people like that exists,they had gone through hard or bad times in their lives and then they meets someone and even anyone and take their shit out on them by being crazy instead of dealing with their shit,Jinjoo is trying to fix her life at 40,Doyeon is 24 she has more time to date and make bad dating choices and still be young enough to make those bad choices but Jinjoo can't afford to do that because she's aging.
Jinjoo is right not to take a chance on Doyeon who acts out the way she does,how can Jinjoo trust in that type of relationship to last with a person who acts like Doyeon does,it's like Jinjoo thought that being with Doyeon might have worked but to see how crazy Doyeon really is is why Jinjoo is pulling away.
Jinjoo says what she knows Doyeon wants to hear during sex but for me the things Jinjoo says in her mind and toward Doyeon is her actual true and honest feelings but Doyeon never listens to her so she says what ever Doyeon wants to hear,sure she might love Doyeon but Jinjoo knows that love doesn't make a good relationship or a lasting one.Doyeon needs to leave that woman alone and Jinjoo needs to divorce and go back and try to mend fences with her parents again and start her life over with a fresh start and finally do what makes Jinjoo happy.make her own choices.
Doyeon took the last an only thing Jinjoo had that brought her some peace and helped her mentally which is church and the availability to talk to and confess to the preast,I don't until now feel bad for Doyeon because she isn't trying to deal with her shit but Instead she's creating more strain on Jinjoo whose trying to figure her shit out,Doyeon is using sex as a comfort for herself and wants Jinjoo to be with her so she can finally have someone who loves her.
Not once has Doyeon put herself in Jinjoo's shoes and gave her a chance to open up properly because everything always has to be about what Doyeon wants and needs,yeah Jinjoo enjoys the sex and attention but she knows that apart from that she has to deal with her husband and marriage and figure out what she has to do and how she would manage as a 40yr old without having a job or proper education and heck even if she could get a job as she's 40.
Doyeon has this fantasy in her mind that Jinoo would live in her house and she continues Togo to school and they have sex and live happily ever after,Doyeon is thinking like a kid that Jinjoo is correct to say.
Well I hope the preast waits until Doyeon leaves and I hope Jinjoo stays and I hope the preast give Jinjoo a chance to talk and finally tells him everything,I feel like Jinjoo just needs to say all that's in her mind and heart to someone who is not Doyeon.
Doyeon needs to leave Jinjoo alone, if Doyeon really love her she needs to let her go and deal with her own shit and if in time Jinjoo comes back after both have sorted themselves out then they can try again as they both would be healthier mentally and emotionally.
That idiot could have left Jinjoo to pray and not go do what I know she's about to do.
But I'm impressed that Song has that body type instead of the usual skinny body type characters.
Right?? I do like me a thiqq girl. ლ(´ڡ`ლ)
So since Doyeon was a kid she pretended to be a good person so people would like her,so it's why she treated Morae well even though Morae still didn't like her,Doyeon continued her act at school is why the teacher found her abit scarry and I guess that she thought treating Jinjoo well would have made Jinjoo like her or even love her then choose to be with her easily over her husband.
But being a good person doesn't mean anyone owes you love,attention and affection,a good person just does good by others without expecting anything in return,so I feel like Doyeon is more selfish rather than selfless and even abit manipulate,Doyeon has a lot to figure out and deal with before dating anyone.
Jinjoo on the other hand as I said before, she is actively trying to figure out and work her shit out where her marriage is concerned and work out what's best for her own life going forward and that's great.
A good person will do good without expecting anything in return. That anything is material things. Luke if I help a poor, it's wrong for me to expect I'd be rich. But expecting good behaviour from others is very normal and justified when you're a good person.
Not just material things dude,here's and example....you're at a club and a guy send over a drink for you then watches you as you receive it and then expects a dance with you after he tells you the drink is from him...hope you get it now.
I think what you’re failing to understand here is that the human condition dictates that while in survival mode most (if not all) of our decisions will be made from selfish POVs. This is the case for Doyeon, Jinjoo, Jinjoo’s Hubs, and probably even Doyeon’s sister. Until that survival instinct subsides our brains won’t allow us to process our shitty behavior. I do find it interesting tho, that you’re relating to Jinjoo more and even ignoring the fact that she too manipulated Doyeon while they lived together and also made selfish decisions. It’s only now that Jinjoo’s in a position of power that she chooses to display empathy to her important people. It’s the same with her Hubs that he can finally understand the consequences when he left Jinjoo holding his bag of shitty debt. Their survival instincts seem to have subsided while Doyeon’s is still in full effect.
…Hope you get it now
Constructive reply which is rear when I post a comment,POV is important and I try my best to see them from the characters,yes Jinjoo was abit selfish and a tad minuplative but she had no choice because she was in survival mode and yeah Doyeon learnt it while as a child at the orphanage,there's no excuse for the dirty pedo husband but I big up Jinjoo because I feel like her life has been worse off than Doyeon's has been and I feel like Doyeon was actually given a chance when she was adopted to have a better life but Jinjoo didn't get that,she went from a highscooler to a wife married to a pedo who always was running and moving away from debt collectors,Jinjoo was like a obedient dog is what the loan sharks said about her,she looked a mess while her husband got well ironed suites.
Jinjoo said that Doyeon shinned more than she did at the age of youth,which I feel like Jinjoo had and has alot of growing to do mentally and emotionally and I see that she's actively trying WHILE Doyeon is busy obsessing over her body more than trying to treat her well.
I still hope that the two don't end up a couple but it's not my story to tell cause I'm not the writer so I wanna see Doyeon's development bit as she is now so far I think she's selfish,cruel,possessive and a tad crazy.
Well a good person's intention behind giving a drink wouldn't be expecting a dance. If he wants a dance, he will talk it out.
One thing I forgot to mention is the limit of those expectations which follows your example.
Buying a drink and expecting to start a conversation is OK, expecting a dance is delusional, expecting sex is absurd.
Seems you haven't been bought a drink from a guy at a club before or maybe guys are different in the club where you are because men at the clubs many of them are that exact way.
An no those guys don't ask they dance their asses your way and tell you they bought you the drink and then try to dance up on you,they sick in the head like that.
I understand that is the reality for most cases. I'm not denying that. I meant the standard of good using your example.
Even if majority guys don't follow that, their delusional behaviour wouldn't be okay in that standard.
I think behavior like that can be regional but mostly I think it’s due to Down syndrome.
Maybe you're a teen and think like that just like kids believe in Santa but In the adult real world,people use good people and there's some people who pretend to be good to use others as well.
Most guys are delusional idiots usually.
Hahahah
So Doyeon was probably molested in the orphanage and maybe by someone who was a caretaker of the children,Doyeon doesn't believe in going to church and I feel like maybe what happened to her as a child was by a preast,the way Doyeon is with Jinjoo is a bit odd and strange and so it's why I think Doyeon confuses love with possession and selfishness,Yes Doyeon must have gone through shit as a child but to have cruel predatory behaviors toward Jinjoo is crazy work,Jinjoo at least is trying to figure her shit out and even trying to have some sort of relationship with Doyeon but Doyeon is so darn forceful,impatient and unfair,Doyeon seems to want Jinjoo to just drop everything and be with her and cannot see that it's not that simple,so instead of being patient with Jinjoo and even a bit understanding,Doyeon is acting like an absolute idiot.
Jinjoo isn’t smart either getting jealous and possessive over Doyeon by her talking with one friend. I think they both need therapy first then a relationship after if that happens
They both just repeating the abuse that they both suffered in their past,Doyeon is a bit of a preditor of which she might have dealt with in the orphanage and Jinjoo likes the feel of and enjoys sex with a way younger person of which is what her husband did to her.
just to clarify what part implied that doyeon was molested at the orphange? i mean i know she said "except the director he never liked me" but other than that where did u draw that from?
Just the fact that a lot of orphans go through that at orphanages and the way she expressed that she acted like a good girl so she would be loved and because of that it came off as acting more like an adult than a child and pedophiles like that type of shit.
Guess what many kids grow up with 1 or both parents & they got no love & affection their who lives as a kid and as an adult they turn out to be the opposite of their parents an are great people towards others and in their relationships so when people here try to tell me that I should feel bad for Doyeon or even worse say that I should feel bad for her because she's 24 I will not and also 2r is old enough to make good choices and be a good person.
40yrs old,Jinjoo is 40 and I don't understand why Doyeon is so darn disrespectful to her,you can't just fuck her whenever you want,grab her hand and drag her and adult her until her mind goes blank and ends up giving in,didn't y'all see the depiction of her mind going black that the artist drew over her head?...that's why she started saying what Doyeon was basically telling her to say and Doyeon tends to do that shit to her alot,many times Jinjoo when she came to visit Doyeon Doyeon fucks her and Jinjoo tells her she didn't come for that any times Jinjoo came to Doyeon to talk,to communicate but Doyeon wants sex so it tells that the one who has the communication problem is Doyeon,Jinjoo can't talk to that asshole because she doesn't give her the chance to 90% of the time,so it's why Jinjoo would not see a future with them because she will get older and can't keep up sexually with Doyeon and Doyeon will still be young and of high sex drive as we see she has and yes she might even cheat on Jinjoo and what will be left for Jinjoo just another failed
Relationship and wasted time again.
Doyeon is not a good fit for Jinjoo point blank period and I still want Jinjoo to get divorced and go to her parents and mend things and get back Into school and start over because you can go back to school at 40,she need to be free and single for awhile and do what makes her happy
I have seen you leave seven to eight replies and it’s flat out ignorance. These are drawings on a website. If you take this seriously enough to get this heated over it, i recommend reading something else.
Now let’s unpack, everything you have said is so blatantly wrong it’s like you havent read the story at all. Jinju is the adult here. She is fully responsible for this relationship and she has made Doyeon, a fragile person with abandonment issues due to past trauma, completely codependent on her.
You are quite frankly talking out of your ass, and it seems to me like you’re ignoring the entire plot. I will not be replying to you or engaging in conversation.
Then fuck all the way off then,I have my opinion,my thoughts and both are adults fuck face.
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I mean.. Doyeon is also an adult. 24 is very clearly an adult s well so that arguement doesn't work at all in this particular context. There really isn't a right or wrong person (besides Jinjoo tat bastard husband).
All of the characters are grey. Jinjoo did use Doyeons "good" nature to be able to havr someone that can protect her but Jinjoo did just try to break things off with Doyeon but Doyeon didn't take no for an answer.
Doyeon may have abandonment issues but Jinjoo was also groomed and then isolated from others by her husband. And that lasted from her late teens to all of her adulthood.
So great that you have enough sense to make such a good comment,the pity that some on here show Doyeon I feel like it's way too much,Doyeon is a shitty character and I won't pity her because of her past,she has been saved and given the chance of great loving parents and a good life and Jinjoo has yet to experience that,she been treated poorly since childhood it seems.
Doyeon has to do the work,get therapy and not be the way she is especially to someone like Jinjoo,40yr olds don't usually look that old and haggard,clearly Jinjoo is going through alot and has been,Jinjoo has had more years of trauma than Doyeon has because she has some years on Doyeon.
Jinjoo has had to do whatever it took to survive her situation so yes she may have used Doyeon in the beginning but while she lived with her she stopped and wanted to get to know her,it was Doyeon who crossed the line and Jinjoo feature she had no other choice but to give in and especially since the first day she got in the apartment she told Doyeon all she had was her body.
Thank you! Yeah people really treat everyone as, "either or" as if only one side is right and it's CRAZY!
All characters here need court mandated therapy lol. I feel like people are ignoring that after Doyeon was adopted she had a pretty normal life. We see her have boyfriends in high-school, a close group of college friends, and her adoptive parents seem to like her. She feels so alone even though she's surrounded by people that like her, only because she's hiding her true self.
Doyeon is actually a very aloof and blunt person but she knows that it's easier to deal with people if she's nice
Now Jinjoo on the other hand was grew up in a extremely strict household, only to be groomed by her husband as a teenager and then isolated and manipulated by that husband who THEN turns around and abandons her. Jinjoo is then harassed by loan sharks who are threatening to r*pe and sell her!!
Jinjoo is in survival mode this whole time. It was Wrong of her to use Doyeons feeling for safety but she did try to break it off.
Even in highschool Jinjoo didn't have friend so I can see why the husband got to her and why she left easily with him.heck you can see how he loved bombed her cause I bet he realized she lacked love,affection and attention.
NO I just can't feel bad for Doyeon because she grew up in an orphanage, she wasn't even treated badly there so that is poor excuse for being a shitty person.
You might want to re-read ch.14-15.
*SPOILER*
Jinjoo baited Doyeon then completely seduced her. As a reminder, it was also established in other chapters before they got comfortable in their affair, Jinju never liked sex before Doyeon and habitually faked her O’s like the dry and crunchy potato chip she was. As for Doyeon, she NEVER ever found ANYONE attractive at least not enough to veer her from her studies nor from her “perfect” and well crafted persona. Then Doyeon discovered how much of a DL freak Jinjoo really is and continued to draw it out of her. The moment Jin finally admits her feelings as well as her freak (imo the ILY admission should be ignored since it was during sex), we also discover her hard no boundary— BONUS! . Honestly, this story has so many toxic elements it’s overwhelming. At this point I won’t be surprised if the priest later propositions them both in exchange for his silence.
You might want to re-read ch.14-15.
*SPOILER*
Jinjoo baited Doyeon then completely seduced her. As a reminder, it was also established in other chapters before they got comfortable in their affair, Jinju never liked sex before Doyeon and habitually faked her O’s like the dry and crunchy potato chip she was. As for Doyeon, she NEVER ever found ANYONE attractive at least not enough to veer her from her studies nor from her “perfect” and well crafted persona. Then Doyeon discovered how much of a DL freak Jinjoo really is and continued to draw it out of her. The moment Jin finally admits her feelings as well as her freak (imo the ILY admission should be ignored since it was during sex), we also discover her hard no boundary— BONUS! . Honestly, this story has so many toxic elements it’s overwhelming. At this point I won’t be surprised if the priest later propositions them both in exchange for his silence.