This guy is a red flag. Touching her without consent and then emotionally manipulating her.
Isn’t that like the point of this manga or am I just into dark romance stuff?
No, this manga communicated since the beginning everything was consensual. They had safe words (or hand signs), ongoing checking in through dirty talk, talking to her normally. Poor aftercare, but still aftercare (cleaning her and giving her water and asking her if she liked it and if she wants more etc).
She told the blonde guy multiple times she doesn't want it and he manipulates her emotionally with "You don't want to disappoint Male lead?" Etc.
Look, there is nothing wrong with enjoying dark romance, but it's very important to know the difference between consent and no consent. Dubcon (dubious consent) technically doesn't exist either. If someone is very drunk for example it's not really consent. Paralyzed by shock is not consent.
For example the trend in porn and novels about choking lead to young people trying that in real life and even gender based violence towards woman.
Sorry for sounding like a worried teacher but it is a serious topic for me. Because fictional work is often influencing real life, especially thing people see in porn etc.
Right? That's why I was enjoying it, it had consent and now this mf comes in...and basically manipulates her and forces her and it makes me wanna drop it..( probably will)
To be honest, in a sad way, I already see that as dubcon Instead of non con.
Anyone else thinking "When will they finally fuck?"?
The blonde guy is literally assaulting her. I hope she punches him and he gets thrown out. Being a sub or a "slave" doesn't mean they have to accept SA.
Are they fucking now? Or is this a situation where the lips are like ten centimeters apart and then some unnecessary boring plot twist cock blocks it?
Spoilers
I remember them kissing in the room and kinda almost did it I think? Ethier way after they get out of there they end up fucking in the i would say in 2-5 more chapters around there
Why do I hear the Muses from Hercules singing at the end of the chapter?
*Who'd you think you're kidding?
He's the Earth and heaven to you
Try to keep it hidden
Honey, we can see right through you (oh, no)
Girl, you can't conceal it
We know how you feel and who you're thinking of (oh)...*
I don't get why people are complaining? Anatomy or maybe a bit one sided when it comes to humiliation and stuff are valid criticism, BUT the consent is explicit and until now, it wasn't hurt once.
- first chapters had a safeword and even more important ONGOING Communication/checking in. It was tarned as dirty talk, but it was there. The guys only continued when she said something like "Yes please use me" or something.
- Same with the second meeting...there are contracts, tapping out. And still the dirty talk/ongoing conversation.
There are a lot of people on here that THINK they know what BDSM is, but they actually don't know anything at all- and their comments exposes that. Unless you've actually consistently trained, participated in, and consistently lived the lifestyle, no one here is going to know what full BDSM is. "Rape play", "abduction/kidnapping", and "humiliation and degradation play" is 100% part of BDSM. Everything that you said is 100% spot on. The rape play depicted consistently meets all the pillars of BDSM play- which is safe, sane, and consensual. In addition there is an explicitly written out contract that all participants have to sign in order to engage with her, and the Master in charge of this ensures that to ensure everyone's safety, most especially the woman's!
The art is so pretty, but the story got so lame so suddenly. Why did this insta model friend introduced for nothing especially when they were already intimidate. They just come of as insufferable morons. Not cute morons, insufferable morons.
Maybe she will become somewhat of a wingwoman who knows
Pretty sure she's an ally
Agree with above comment… she knows he’s gay and she may be one of his few real friends. Please think before writing dumb comments.
The story sucks already. Calling a comment dumb just because you don't agree doesn't make you look good.
its so obvious when people rage bait the hot new stories that everyone is raving about lmao. always gotta be the ones who criticize anything popular, its so embarassing
Assuming something without confirmation doesn't make you look good either
idc how i look to you lol youre the weirdo with limited understanding, youre acting like this girl just got introduced as a love interest when its obvious to us (well not you obvs) that shes a close friend who most likely knows ian is gay and in love with someone. then when people reminded you of that you just "oh well the story is ass anyway hahaha" troll better next time lmao. hating popular things bc theyre popular dossnt make you cool.
The point is, that this is a very cheap and very common trope, that some childhood friend, in some BL it's a male, in some a female either makes ML/MC jealous or produces drama so the author can fill in more chapters. It's boring and lame.
And it's even sadder that everyone gets personal the moment you voice an opinion about something.
There is a huge difference between "this book sucks/is lame/dumb because XY" and "you suck/are weird etc." it just shows that either none of you had manners or forgot how to actually discuss things. Even a heated discussion doesn't have to include personal insults.
I'm glad it's not the usual romanticizing crap...I don't get people like that? Why isolating and crushing someone when they were never even truly interested in that person? Why isolating and crushing someone in the first place?
"I wasn't asking for permission" red flag
He asked after
we’re colorblind for Ian anyway
girl bye who cares
Which is to late.