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Thank you for saying this, because I agree. Hyesung never said he forgave her. His conflicted feelings is valid and realistic. Some people feel like Hyesung, others don't. That's okay, but I don't think the author should be bashed for having one perspective that isn't far from reality.

People on this site might be projecting their own feelings and perspectives. It might be hard for them empathise and see Hyesung's conflicted feelings.

But thats what Byul and Dojin keep doing? They keep defending her and saying she wants to meet and even met her for years behind Hyesungs back. Not once did I see Byul or Dojin acknowledge what she did to Hyesung was wrong.

They dont say it, they don't acknowledge his pain and just wanted him to meet her.
That's them pretending she didn't do anything wrong and Hyesung is just being unreasonable because he hadn't met her until now.

Not a single one of those three, his mother, his husband and his son acknowledged his pain and hurt. They just brushed over it and wanted them to make up, no matter the WHY.

And even now, she didn't answer Hyesungs questions and just apologized, she didn't sit down with him on his own and talked it out and explained everything that's happened, since and before she abandoned him.
Nothing.
Just a family gathering, as if Hyesung still doesn't have trauma, which he does or else he wouldn't have had a breakdown like that.

Nothing got acknowledge again. And she just had her motherly moment, holding Luna and calling Byul by a nickname. (Which btw, she didn't deserve, making food and repeating I'm sorry doesn't fix what she did. And it definitely doesn't heal Hyesungs pain, which he still had AFTER the meeting. And neither Dojin nor Byul acknowledge again, saying oh its okay to feel that way????? What way, why aren't they saying it, why aren they saying what she did, why aren't they talking about that??)

That's not healing, that's ignorance.

That's what's bothering everyone.

Agree 100% it would be totally valid for Hyesung to cut her off forever, but it annoys me that people are straight insulting the author bc they feel like he’s not also valid for trying to pursue a resemblance of a relationship with her.

I mean this is probably where we’re going to disagree bc personally it irks me when people take the trauma of those closest to them and get super angry for them. in my opinion it’s hyesung’s trauma and unless it bothers him, dojin and Byul leaving space for Hyesung to be upset is pretty appropriate. I agree that they should’ve communicated with Hyesung and shouldn’t have hid anything from him (especially Dojin) but it is within Byul’s right to have a relationship with his grandmother. I think Dojin probably supported Hyesung’s mom because he knew Hyesung would want her to have a peaceful life but wouldn’t want to know she was doing well from the direct support from his husband. But that’s also left for interpretation so.

And the only reason Hyesung actually met her was bc he overheard Dojin and Byul talking. It seemed like they were going to settle on not asking Hyesung to meet with her bc quoted from Dojin they don’t want him to get hurt. It’s been a minute since I read the og LIAI but I’m pretty sure the first meeting between Hyesung and his mom was requested by Dojin since Hyesung was having a hard time thinking about his mom. We knew he was having issues throughout the story and he craved being doted on and having a parental figure around. I mean we saw how excited he was when he met with her again. I think this is probably why Dojin and Byul have asked him to meet her a few times. But he obviously has conflicting emotions about it and they don’t push him to forgive her either. He even says after that he doesn’t want to see her.

I also personally am not a huge fan of the “parent traumatized their child then apologized for everything later and everything is fine” trope since I feel like it’s more realistic for the parent to become a lot better but also not really admit to their wrongdoings. This is why Hyesung still being upset after feels the most realistic to me bc it’s not a perfect scenario where everything is addressed. It doesn’t feel like anything is swept under the rug bc it doesn’t feel like a resolution, yk?

But everything was indeed swept under the rug. Did Hyesung and his mother had a private talk about what happened? No. Did Hyesung get a chance to express his feeling in a stable moment? No. Did Hyesung still feel like he was doing something wrong after saying he didn't want to meet her again? Yes.

That's not healthy, that's not a good conclusion to his trauma.
Because if he still feels guilty then he didn't get a chance to properly explain and hear WHY she did it.

This 'reunion' and bonding moment didn't feel 'earned', the mother did not give Hyesung a private moment to explain and hear her sons feelings out. She went behind his back and then acted like she was desperately waiting for him, when in fact it was Hyesung who was waiting for her.

You are completely correct when you say Hyesung still has conflicting feelings, but going behind his back and meeting her in secret is not how you help that person.

And you are again correct when you say they didn't push Hyesung to meet again after this chapter, but if Hyesung still feel guilty about that, then that mean he still hasn't healed. So this whole Chapter was unsatisfying and pointless.
That's not healthy, its not going to help Hyesung.

This isn’t about the mother, its about Hyesungs trauma.

And all they did this chapter was ignore Hyesungs trauma.

Because no matter how you may feel or think about this chapter, Hyesung trauma was NOT addressed, and swept under the rug.

I do agree, how both Byul and Dojin handled it was awful, which was not acknowledged.
When you say "good conclusion" to his trauma. Do you mean the mother repenting and explaining herself, or Hyesung cutting off contact? Story wise, yes it would be satisfying and what everyone irl wants.

I am biased, I work in the psych field, where I see similar things. I thought it was very realistic in how it was done with Hyesung. He very much hasn't healed from his trauma, which is why he burst into tears in the end. People like his mother don't explain themselves or take accountability, and yes most people are like this. Ever heard the most unrealistic thing about Encanto is that the grandmother apologised? Its far too close to reality. Hyesung shouldn't feel guilty, yet guilt is what some people feel in these situations.

People want to maintain a relationship with people who wronged them in the past, it happens and sometimes its actually because they want their kids to have family in their life. While others cut them off entirely. It really depends on people's values. Personally its not my values, but I've seen how it can be important for others. That's why I don't hate how Hyesung's trauma and conflicted feelings were portrayed, its something I've seen, it felt real.

Though, I do want to say your feelings and opinion are valid! I was just putting my two cents, I liked how it was not clean cut and realistic. But I also get it, its a fictional story. It could've very much have the happy end to Hyesung's trauma that we want from our fictional stories. Thats why I do understand wanting that satisfying justified conclusion to his trauma. There are so many stories I hate how things are, even if they're realistic. I hate his mother, I also wish she explained herself, I just also like that its not black and white and empathise for Hyesung's conflicted emotions. Oh and yeah, the handling of Byul and Dojin sneaking behind Hyesung was infuriating for me too.

There's a what chapter?

slowburn starting to burn at this point

LMAOO forreal. i wasn’t gonna read it bc i didn’t care but i did n i ended up sobbing

Yuri has his own story and i recommend reading it

"form of sympathy" name btw

I read up to chapter 10-15ish and I hate-
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That he’s always mistreating the teacher… I feel so bad for him. And I skipped to one of the much much later chapters and it seemed like the relationship was purely sex and they didn’t even discuss feelings for each other lol…
If you tell me it gets better I’ll finish it though

Idk if you decided to finish that story but it doesn't get better; unless you consider Yuri being a psychopathic, jealous nightmare of a boyfriend a good ending. Everything after them becoming a couple BEGS for both to go to therapy and only Seongwoo does.

Thank you for saving me. Idek how such drastically different stories can come from the same author..

Stigma, A thousand cranes, Love sick dog, for my weirdo (seme is sus first but later good)

if you want to begin the cycle of a generational trauma read Dark Heaven

Tysm! Seems exactly what I was looking for

Thank you! This looks so interesting… I’m excited

Holy parallels author is still on their game

LETS ALL BOW DOWN TO THE AUTHOR(▰˘◡˘▰)

HAHAH YEAH IJEKIELATHY FANS MUST BE PISSED