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you are wasting ur time its really boring and it contain alot of rape

oh no… maybe i won’t read it then wtf

To hate properly you must engage in said hatred read it its quick read

bj alex wasn’t that good.. might be a hot take

Never reading that I saw that panel of the second hand embarresment chapter strayed me away

Ignore these fucking cunts, it's not rape, they literally signed a contract. They were both using each other whether these fuckwads wanna believe it our not </3

For dumbasses jaefag dickriders who still think that jaeshit never raped dan.
https://www.mangago.me/thing/about/880980/

bby contracts lock in a promise. consent is a second-by-second choice that can not be locked in. u cannot contract away your body because u can change your mind at any moment. the exact second someone says 'stop,' the contract is completely irrelevant. mutual abuse wouldn't negate rape! u can not contract sex!

But… they did contract sex, specifically on his terms I’m sorry did you even fucking read the chapter when he said his selfish terms to him lmao

Terms , contract etc etc doesn't equate to consent. Consent can be taken away anytime during sex. You can't forcefully shove your dick in someone when they're screaming "no" just because there's a contract. Consent can never be given on paper. Besides Dan had signed up to have sex with jaekyung, not to get raped by him.

there was a chapter in bj alex where they were talking out their problems, but instead of writing out their conversation, the author just made a monologue “oh that day we cleared up all of our misunderstandings”
shows how much of a bad writer minghwa is, not being able to show how the top ‘redeems’ himself and communicates

what i stated is a universal principle, no chapter is going to change it because it applies across all situations. consent cannot legally or morally be bound by a contract, as it's continuous and freely given. because someone has the right to withdraw consent at any moment, enforcing a "sex contract" against their active protest constitutes rape, no? disrespectfully, go read up on consent, because your fundamental lack of understanding regarding contracts, consent to sex and the ability to withdraw it makes you very dangerous

Your fundamental lack of understanding that obviously in this made up toxic world of jinx the contract sex thing IS happening I mean come on people this is what I mean- it’s not defending it it’s just saying you cannot expect real world logics when it comes to these stories. Is it okay? No, obviously but you you can’t expect the right thing to happen in dark romances what is so hard to understand? It’s not me defending rape, it’s not me saying hey what he did was okay, or would even happen, but in this story it did and because of the characters characteristics like him needing money and knowing if he shuts up, this was giving him money, so he decided to go against what he wanted which is sad and horrible but it’s the fucking story people lmao it’s not me saying it’s okay, it’s me saying this story is made where when Dan came to his apartment and agreed, he was told that it would happen whenever and however with no more resistance which Dan agreed to - thus, in their world of fucked up, they have contract sex whether it’s right or wrong for Dan BUT THATS NOT ME SAYING ITS OKAY ITS JUST THE FACTS GOOD LORD

the world of jinx is bound by real-world logic because its universe is rooted entirely in realism, which includes superstition. judging the validity of a "consent contract" using real-world principles is the only approach that respects the nature of the manhwa because the story is modeled after the society that created those principles. there is no universal set of "dark romance principles" or "fiction principles" to discuss these things by, because they vary depending on the story's setting. this specific setting happens to be the real world.

when someone claims it is not rape because of a contract, they are ignoring how consent works. what constitutes rape does not differ between reality and realistic fiction. you cannot contract consent. this is my argument. to disagree means misunderstanding the mechanics of real-world consent because any "jinx principles" you're trying to disagree based on is still real-life principles, as that's what jinx follows.

if a puppy gets shot in our world, it is tragic. if a puppy gets shot in their world, it is tragic. when discussing that event, nobody here would discuss it like a happy event because because their world is based on ours and this sets the default framework for discussion. arguing that "in their world, contract consent is valid" fails to recognize that their world is... literally based on ours. it's not true in their world because their world is ours!


it's simple. nice and spoon-fed for you. say ahhh!

Nobody said that Jinx isnt set in a world that resembles reality. The disagreement is over how readers take every event exclusively through real world legal and ethical standards. Ofc, real world consent cannot be contracted away, and I never said that in the real world it can, I said in THIS universe it is with their story. Me acknowledging how the story itself presents the contract, and how the characters understand it, or how the author uses it as a plot device IS NOT ME AGREEING damn. Plus the fact that in this FICTIONAL universe, something like their contract (which spoiler alert since u love to assume I love or excuse rape, I think it’s fucked up!) to force the “their world is ours” is retarded. It’s fictional. Jinx is not literally our world. It is a fictional world modeled on ours. Fiction routinely alters social norms, institutions, consequences, and character behavior without announcing a new legal code. Because guess what ? fiction sorry- do you think Hogwarts exists too??
But the funniest part of all this? Is that now you’re grasping at straws over a point I never made.
My point is simply that Dan knowingly entered into an agreement where sex was exchanged for money. All opinions aside, that’s the reality of his story. That’s what happened in the story. Acknowledging that fact is not the same as arguing every sexual encounter was automatically consensual forever. Even though he willingly entered this agreement.
If acknowledging a plot point is the same as endorsing it to you, that’s a reading comprehension issue babes, not a me issue lollllll

i'm not grasping at straws over a point you never made. i'm responding to your implication that because jinx is fictional, it automatically operates under a separate set of principles that we should judge it by. my point is that it doesn't. nobody is denying that jinx is fictional. the issue is that ur treating "fictional" as if it automatically means real-world standards stop applying on even a realistic story modeled after the real world. its social dynamics, institutions, character behavior, and understanding of consent all mirror ours. when a story is built on real-world logic, readers are expected to evaluate it through real-world standards unless the story explicitly establishes otherwise. jinx does not alter social norms, institutions, consequences or behavior so i'm curious as to what your point is here because while fiction can alter anything, THIS fiction did not do that. JINX did not change anything! nothing in the story suggests a fundamentally different societal understanding of consent because the universe itself is presented as a reflection of the same reality that we live in.

"The disagreement is over how readers take every event exclusively through real-world legal and ethical standards." no, the disagreement is over your refusal to acknowledge that readers are supposed to do exactly that here, because the story itself gives us no reason not to. we're examining consent through the lens the story provides, and that lens happens to be the one we evaluate real life by. "In THIS universe it is with their story." a principle doesn't stop existing simply because characters ignore it or fail to recognize it. the fact that a character believes a contract entitles them to sex does not mean the story has established a universe where consent can be contracted. that's not worldbuilding it's characters' understanding of the situation. in our world, people believe consent can be contracted, sex work for example. the fact that it's tolerated doesn't negate that it's rape.

and no, nobody said that acknowledging a plot point is the same as endorsing it and i don't know how you'd get that because the issue is that when I explained that consent cannot be contracted, using the story's principles, to someone denying it's rape and your response was, "but they did contract sex, specifically on his terms." the point YOU challenged is if they can contract consent. you then proceeded to say they can contract consent in their fictional world because it's fictional but you're failing to tell me what has established this idea that the mechanics of consent was fundamentally altered within their universe. what principles should i judge their actions by if not the principles established by the story's setting?

this isn't a reading comprehension issue. I'm engaging directly with what you're saying. you're arguing that the contract functions as valid consent within the story's universe because it's fictional as that's the only elaboration you've given me so far. oki. it's fictional. if jae-kyung slits his throat, that'd be suicide thru a real world lens and because this story's universe operates on our underlying principles, it'd be suicide in their world. because the default for discussion about a realistic manhwa that does not imply any deviation from real world logic is real world logic, we'd discuss that as if it's suicide, hm?

but you're acting like fictional principles are self explanatory, universal and their own thing instead of established by the story's setting. so under your fictional dark romance principles, what would jae-kyung slitting his throat be? would it be some secret third thing? clearly we can't call that suicide because that'd be applying real world principles to a story that follows different "fictional" ones. just like we apparently can't call a "sex contract" rape. so what principle is established in the universe of jinx regarding consent? and don't tell me the characters act a certain way, because i'm asking about the universe.

i asked three biggie questions here and i WILL be able to tell if u use chatgpt again, lmao

Bro you need some help and maybe actually read the story instead of skimming it and then come back when you gain a brain cell or two.
Your lack of comprehension, the gaslighting, and way you can’t even focus on a point or what’s actually being said even on your part is astounding.
Hope you get well soon

so to summarize based off what i asked and u answered, ur ass can't tell me what has established the idea that the mechanics of consent was fundamentally altered within their universe for you to be claiming that consent can be contracted, nor can you tell me what principles should i judge their actions by if not the principles established by the story's setting which are real world principles? can you tell me ANYTHING?

without blocking me?

Maybe if you knew how to read lol