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liy2002 January 16, 2026 9:33 pm

"Don't you have a hand"atfer that line i won't take any against my being weak or not standing for herself, because she is litteraly 10 x stronger than you all gave crédit for

liy2002 December 19, 2025 10:57 pm

Haven’t you ever seen a slim woman with a big butt in a tight dress or what ??(⊙…⊙ )

    Ida December 19, 2025 11:07 pm

    Thinking thats a realistic body of a 40-50 old women tells me you need to get out more often buddy

    Pleguin December 19, 2025 11:10 pm

    That ain't a ahjumma, too unrealistic sadly

    honeisenpa1 December 19, 2025 11:15 pm
    Thinking thats a realistic body of a 40-50 old women tells me you need to get out more often buddy Ida

    I think putting this 40-50 year old woman in the same category as normal women of the same age isn’t the way to go. She is a rich mafia boss wife. This implies she has the money to keep herself young and youthful with her hubby’s money. So while it might not be ‘natural’ it is possible for someone like her to look like this irl.

    lemonkun December 19, 2025 11:16 pm

    Have seen a lot of them in this manhwa! Crazy how the mom, sister and na haesoo all have the same body type

    Jieun December 19, 2025 11:17 pm

    See more people and if you watch porn, just stop

    honeisenpa1 December 19, 2025 11:19 pm
    I think putting this 40-50 year old woman in the same category as normal women of the same age isn’t the way to go. She is a rich mafia boss wife. This implies she has the money to keep herself young and yout... honeisenpa1

    And another thing to add is that she is Korean. Asians are very well known for looking young even at 60 so this just adds more to that youthfulness.

    Ida December 19, 2025 11:20 pm
    I think putting this 40-50 year old woman in the same category as normal women of the same age isn’t the way to go. She is a rich mafia boss wife. This implies she has the money to keep herself young and yout... honeisenpa1

    It’s the sheer size of her proportions that make it comical . Okay yeah she’s rich but if he didn’t point out for her to be his mother I would think that’s a 20 smth year old. Almost every woman in this story has the same body type small waist big chest skinny arms and big ass that it feels like fan service for little boys none stop. Let’s not talk about the same face syndrome. The artist draws them with the same features except for hair colour and eyes id it feels lazy at this point.

    Jieun December 19, 2025 11:20 pm
    I think putting this 40-50 year old woman in the same category as normal women of the same age isn’t the way to go. She is a rich mafia boss wife. This implies she has the money to keep herself young and yout... honeisenpa1

    You're right about her being rich to maintain herself, but considering Korea is obsessed with plastic surgeries and women are the biggest victims, there is nothing realistic about it

    Ida December 19, 2025 11:20 pm
    Have seen a lot of them in this manhwa! Crazy how the mom, sister and na haesoo all have the same body type lemonkun

    Agreeeee

    liy2002 December 19, 2025 11:22 pm

    my mom best friend who is her a 50 yo is built like that ( slim built with waist big butt and boobs), lol. I know tons of women in their 40s and 50s throught my mom friend with defined curves, getting old did not made them lose it lmao. As a Black woman, that’s just so basic to me and it's very common to see women like that . So a 40 - 50 yo woman with such curves is not that unrealistic to me

    liy2002 December 19, 2025 11:26 pm

    Also you got a weird and stereotypical definition of what women btw their 40 and 50 look like , at lot of women are still in good shape in that age lmao . Especially in ethincity like asian , black who are know to age well

    liy2002 December 19, 2025 11:30 pm
    See more people and if you watch porn, just stop Jieun

    i'm shocked by the ingorance of some people lmao , you would have choke if you see how at lot women from my mom friend group who is 50 yo look then , its not unrealistic at all , even for us black people her built is so basic lmao

    liy2002 December 19, 2025 11:34 pm
    That ain't a ahjumma, too unrealistic sadly Pleguin

    nah i know aunties built like that lmao , that litteraly one of my mom's best friend built i also know women in the same age group with bigger butt than that( well these one on the more chubby side), you all got just a sterotypical vision of what woman around her age should looks lmao not every woman around their 40 and 50 yo are out of shape lmao

    Jieun December 19, 2025 11:37 pm
    i'm shocked by the ingorance of some people lmao , you would have choke if you see how at lot women from my mom friend group who is 50 yo look then , its not unrealistic at all , even for us black people her bu... liy2002

    40 and 50 years old isn't old, and there is no such a thing as "aged like fine wine", it's just a sexist myth.
    I know about women over 40 being in good shape, but that female character is a Korean living in a country where the citizens drink alcohol like water and plastic surgeries are common.
    They promote unrealistic beauty standards, and let's be real, the author is obsessed with thin (not slim) figures with huge breasts and buts.
    The body of the step mother of the male lead is unrealistic and based on sexism

    Jieun December 19, 2025 11:38 pm
    i'm shocked by the ingorance of some people lmao , you would have choke if you see how at lot women from my mom friend group who is 50 yo look then , its not unrealistic at all , even for us black people her bu... liy2002

    Black people have different body shapes.

    liy2002 December 19, 2025 11:39 pm
    i'm shocked by the ingorance of some people lmao , you would have choke if you see how at lot women from my mom friend group who is 50 yo look then , its not unrealistic at all , even for us black people her bu... liy2002

    and i don't even watch porn btw

    Jieun December 19, 2025 11:45 pm
    and i don't even watch porn btw liy2002

    I deeply apologise for this part. I am sorry.
    Usually, lots of people endorse unrealistic beauty standards because of fictional and real porn
    Again and again, I am very sorry for assuming that you may watch it.

    Jieun December 19, 2025 11:45 pm
    and i don't even watch porn btw liy2002

    I want to say that my apologies were sincere, and I understand why you would refuse them.

    liy2002 December 19, 2025 11:46 pm
    It’s the sheer size of her proportions that make it comical . Okay yeah she’s rich but if he didn’t point out for her to be his mother I would think that’s a 20 smth year old. Almost every woman in this... Ida

    nah there are at lot of women above their 40 who still have able that curvy figure lmao , epecially in ethicity black , latina community, even korean are not to be young and stay in good shape until their 60yo ...also every women from that manhwa does not have the same body type at all only fl and step mom are curvy , the rest also are average the artist just like to draw sexy type whatever it's a man character or woman character , there are not that much men reading this one even in the first place lmao

    liy2002 December 19, 2025 11:58 pm
    nah there are at lot of women above their 40 who still have able that curvy figure lmao , epecially in ethicity black , latina community, even korean are not to be young and stay in good shape until their 60yo... liy2002

    are know to stay in god shape * i meant

    liy2002 December 20, 2025 12:09 am
    40 and 50 years old isn't old, and there is no such a thing as "aged like fine wine", it's just a sexist myth.I know about women over 40 being in good shape, but that female character is a Korean living in a co... Jieun

    i'm kinda disagree about about the author be obsseded with big boobs and ass lmao , if you look at the whole female cast they are all diverse in body type like most of them are average , only fl and the step mom are very idealised meanwhile all the major men from the men cast got the same greek god body type . But i can see where you are coming from about the thin figure tho , but she is korean that how their beauty standard are there and she follows them .

    Pleguin December 20, 2025 12:30 am
    nah i know aunties built like that lmao , that litteraly one of my mom's best friend built i also know women in the same age group with bigger butt than that( well these one on the more chubby side), you all g... liy2002

    For me, it's not entirely stereotypical but more like distinctions and how the author tries to portrays women to the point it's unrealistic. I'm aware that other people do have this achieved look and thriving at the age of 40 or 50 but still let's be for real, by 40 or 50 you might still look that plump especially on the bust and buttocks area but it's not as super thin as how the mother looks like in the manhwa. Literally the size comparison between her wrist and taeha's hand are unrealistic, I was so surprised because it seems like this mother isn't even eating (built is close to na heeso too). I've been encountering people especially in their 40s and 50s (since apparently I'm part of the cosplay community and it's wild cause you really have to guess their age cause they look so young) but they are really not THAT thin, more like a bit plump or had a bit of chubs despite being depicted thin. I think for me, the author is too obsessed of these kinds of proportions where mostly almost half of the korean population where if you're 40-50s, you'd be a bit wrinkled (even if you took care of yourself) not that plump on the buttocks and bust but definitely thin. But if we're talking about celebrities yes you'll see them have that kind of build. AND even if the mother here is a wife of a mafia—you'd be taking a lot of stress just by dealing family business so I believe it really is unrealistic. Also, there are difference in body proportions every human being especially in races too, so I understand your point that on your relatives, you have someone close to that proportion but if we're talking about african builds, they lean more to that distinct build more than koreans themselves

    liy2002 December 20, 2025 12:30 am
    Black people have different body shapes. Jieun

    sure while it’s much more common to see women like that in our communities, women outside the Black ethnicity can also have that body type, even if it’s less common for them look at the ancient idol alice so hee for exemple, sure she is only 25 yo , but even above 40 she can still keep that amazing figure with a decent life hygeine since its very common for korean people tp still stay in shape around that age , especially with how much they take care of themlseves .

    liy2002 December 20, 2025 12:36 am
    I want to say that my apologies were sincere, and I understand why you would refuse them. Jieun

    That's okay, I feel your sincerity through your apologies, and I accept them

    liy2002 December 20, 2025 1:16 am
    For me, it's not entirely stereotypical but more like distinctions and how the author tries to portrays women to the point it's unrealistic. I'm aware that other people do have this achieved look and thriving a... Pleguin

    I see, that’s fair criticism. But at the end of the day, it’s just fiction, so realism isn’t going to be perfect, lmao. Meanwhile, there are a few minor points I want to mention. About the thinness I think the author added some nuance there. For example, if we look at Na Hae in her smut scene, even though she’s portrayed as thin, she still has a bit of chub on her belly. It’s not as extreme as her clothes might make it look.
    Also,i believe wrinkles are very relative . I’ve seen some people young looking people 50s like my mom who look like she is her 30 with barely wrinkles . like she only got just a three visible wrinkles when she is smiling or crying but oustide that it don't show itself that much.

    Jieun December 20, 2025 1:24 am
    That's okay, I feel your sincerity through your apologies, and I accept them liy2002

    Thank you

    liy2002 December 20, 2025 1:37 am
    For me, it's not entirely stereotypical but more like distinctions and how the author tries to portrays women to the point it's unrealistic. I'm aware that other people do have this achieved look and thriving a... Pleguin

    To be fair, even celebrities have very stressful lives with crazy scandals, and the entertainment industry be a toxic workplace to them lmao .
    While it’s true that our Africain phenotypes lean more toward a certain build than korea themsleves , it’s not impossible or unrealistic for a Asian to be born with that figure or achieve it with intense Pilates or squats work out. Look at women like Alice So Hee, for example

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