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If I compare how minho is a rapist and domestic violence abuser like their white man Joseph laundry from wetsand , I will be the bad guy

deadass tho like jo literally r*ped youngwoo, and choked him out. meanwhile, taejoon literally froze and nearly had his entire brain break when he ACCIDENTALLY slapped youngwoo when yw purposely stepped in front of his hand to block yangji..... i lose years off my life every time i see people say that shit abt tj i stg

can i ask what ch. is it in wet sand?

Chapter 52: Jo continues to have sex with Youngwoo after Youngwoo passes out (Jo literally pauses and acknowledges that YW has passed out, and then continues to fuck him anyway. Before he passes out, Youngwoo verbalises that he can't keep going.

Chapter 72: Jo shoves Youngwoo around and chokes him, out of anger. Youngwoo is visibly scared/worried at the end of the chapter and tries to stop him.

Chapter 73: Jo fucks Youngwoo aggressively, in order to hurt him, out of anger and possessiveness.

Chapter 24: Taejoon accidentally slaps Youngwoo when YW purposely steps in front of TJ's hand as TJ is reprimanding Yangji. Taejoon freezes, then sends everyone out of the room. Then, he purposely provokes YW and gets him to slap him back, to make it equal.

idk if any further assault happens between Jo and YW after chapter like 82?? transparently, i haven't been brave enough to read past thereabouts yet bc i'm a wimp and wet sand hurts my feelings like nothing else lmao


also noting that i love both Taejoon AND Jo!!!! it simply pisses me off to no fucking end, the amount of bullshit i see about tj everywhere, making him out to be an actual piece of shit abuser like Minho is is this manhwa (Recoil).

link to wet sand: https://www.mangago.me/read-manga/wet_sand/

personally, i'd call the scenes in chapters 72 and 73 that i mentioned dubcon, but the scene in chapter 52 is simply noncon

The thing is that you all don't realise that they were both abusive toward ian in their own way and that ian deserved to get away with someone else

Tj is the one that purposely made ian unable to leave a life he hated for years, making sure to send him to prison on the process

But you all are only focused on what jo did (and jo IS a piece of shit) but unable to acknowledge that tj IS abusive. Abuse isn't only physical period.

Hypocrisy at its finest. That's exactly how people act in real life toward abusers they like

But well i mean, from the look of your reading list, you don't really care about abuse and only use it to justify loving an abuser that abused just a little less

Where did @keira say that tj is not an emotional abuser ?? Tj ,ian and jo all of them are toxic in their own way that is something you don't gotta tell tj stans we know what we are reading but Your wanna defend that rapist boy so bad that you gotta come under a tj stan comment(mind you there are lots of jo stans comments comparing tj to this minho while giving free pass to jo to make it seems like jo is green flag ) that asking others not to compare tj with a violent character like minho who is raping and beating mc ?always bringing whataboutism whenever jo is getting bashed for being a rapist we know who you are and also you aren't beating rape apologist no matter what you put in username .

Lmfao all that to say absolutely NOTHING

Lol and coming to me about "whataboutism" then also putting words in my mouth

I know who you and keira are
She has an abuser as her pp
I don't

You are mad because i said JO AND TJ are BOTH abusers

You are just a sensitive bitch who doesn't like to be called out and that's okay (no)

Anyway you are weird get a grip

Abuse is abuse and whoever has a abusers as ther pp deserves to be called out tf, acting like a threatened her entire family

'Tj purposely made ian unable to leave ' true tho but why did you purposely left out the part that ian enjoying tj's obsession and infatuancy because he didn't really wanted to leave tj ?? Matter only got worse the day ian murdered his subordinate and felt he losing his humanity that's when he realised he can't be in gang anymore

'He made him serve prison' ian literally killed his subordinate and there was a witness ? Even though lawyers had option to argue self-defence but nothing guaranteed


Yes tj is guilty of all things and ian enjoyed every bit of that this cause hello both are traumatised and groomed by adults around them ??idk how you expect them not be toxic to each other in a hostile environment but what is Joseph laundry's excuse ???so you gotta stop reading wetsand from tiktok and get your head out of your ass and stop head butting with tj stans wbk tjian is toxic but they aren't anymore and happily married so stop with your whataboutism bullshittery cause rapist jo never had a chance since he can not be redeemed as a rapist don't have redemption.

You are the one who is putting words in her mouth when she simply called out other jo stans in a completely different LT trying to make wetsand about "abuser got mc while green flag guy got dumped" that's why you chose the particular comment to argue with tj stans loser ass bitch tj is still better than that white rat rapist jo go cry about about it .

You are a whole ass weirdo trying to be saint you do love some rapist mls that's why you are barking under tj stans post calling jo rapist but your bitch ass is nowhere to be found when they try to white wash jo's in order to make tj villain .

Pwahaha that's a hell of a projection here lmfao

Just bc YOU love some ml rapist doesn't mean that everybody does.

We are not all pro rape

Plus ONCE AGAIN

JO AND TJ ARE BOTH ABUSIVE PIECE OF SHIT PERIOD

LEARN TO READ YOU SMELLY UGLY ASS BITCH

I am not putting words in her mouth.
She has tj as her pp.

That is enough

Lmfao, go find tourself some braincell and a decency

All that because i called an abusive character... abusive

That's weird to be mad against someone for saying "emotional and economical abuse is still abuse"

Sounds really weird to be offended as you are by that

Pwahaha girl stop please tou sound really weird

All that bc i said your litlle tj is abusive

Its a fictional character relax

projection coming from a so-called rapist apologist beater but not really muhahhahahaah calling other rapist lovers cause you saw we are calling Jo rapist anyway and domestic violence abuser jo I'm not pro rape or else I would be rooting for rapist jo too like you ugly ass bitch anyway emotional abuser tj >>>>>>rapist jo

I'm not reading your takes trying to compare a rapist to emotional abuser stop trying to lecture tj stans and take your performative under jo stans comments and give the same energy .

You need to chillax girl we just calling Jo a rapist he is fictional too get your ugly ass out of here .

christ i'm gonna need 3 business days to respond to this shit

Girl clean your eyes gosh

I literally said that BOTH were abusers and that ian should have ended with NONE

"I have the right to like this abusers bc the other is a worse abuser" what are you, 5 ?

Hell get a grip

And i do give the same energy to them
While you give that energy to defend tj who also is an abuser

Go ask your parents for attention instead of doing it under a comment calling out abuse

Weirdo

"Performative"

Girl you will never in your lifetime do what i do for survivor in my everydaylife

You are online defending an fictional character with your life bc someone called them abusive

I work with survivor everyday of my life

We are not the same

Womp womp

Projection goes hard the way you act online with others ugly bitch I am a sa victim so you don't gotta be telling me what is abusive or what not I know that very well bettersave it for someone who needs it.

Womp womp piggy

Calling other weirdo when you are the one literally started a discourse with tj stan who are very aware of tj's as well as ian's toxicity but you are reducing their dynamic to simply abuser and his victim is wrong story gives ian too much agency he isn't some passive victim of tj go pick a book or two to comprehend emotionally complex characters

Block her she just needs some attention from tj stans that her parents don't give if she have one ...

Lol

honestly, the number of times i've just had words put in my mouth, when i literally haven't even said anything further like..... i don't really want to waste my time replying lmao.

the way they started their reply off by saying "you all" immediately proved to me that they don't even have any intention to critique what *i* actually said: instead, they're just lumping my comment in with random other people's comments they must have seen, and because of that apparently now I'M an abuse-excusing piece of shit idiot? make it make fucking sense

also, i've just gone through their whole profile and learned that they used to have their avatar set as youngwoo/ian... YIKES who's gonna tell them that youngwoo is an emotional abusive, selfish asshole and a literal murderer? uh oh that's so problematic yuck omg

Oh the tea .......she really thought she can get away by that the way she was defending ian who literally guilt tripped tj too by not letting tj not confess about leg incident and he also tried to throw it to his in the public restroom so i guessed she is probably a ian stan who was rooting for ian solo or joian no wonder we struck a nerve lmfao

also, literally WHILST i was going through their 'already read' list, they were actively removing things they've read?? like i started on their page and they had 20 'already read', then it changed to 14, and then it stopped at 8 (which it currently is at).

soooo either there was an extended glitch, or they seem to have been cleaning up their 'already read' list? how odd. hope there was no rape on there, bc that would be very hypocritical, but i guess we'll never know!!

wait what the fuck, their comment on THIS manhwa (Recoil) says:

"I feel like it's going to be a
Two traumatised people meant to be together learning how to be together so they can escape toxicity and abuse through the discovery of softness and sweet love

I just hope that it's what it's going to be (because i love that trope)"

IS THAT NOT THE ENTIRE FUCKING POINT OF WET SAND?? WHAT???? THAT IS THE ENTIRE POINT OF WET SAND.

i don't understand why MY comment was the one they decided to respond to, out of everything people have said. i literally didn't even say tj isn't abusive bro, i only said people tend to make him out as far fucking worse than he really is this is so fucking stupid lmao

She is a hypocrite final boss I didn't even have to deep check her profile she literally goons over "toying with daddy" a straight rape slop she trying to be neutral but something about her beefing with tj stans when jo stans are there tells me that she is sad that his white savior of a man Joseph laundry did not get ian the manipulator but she gotta stop making it every one else's problem

yes, i saw "toying with daddy" and the only thing i could do was sigh bc are we actually serious rn