Chuljin is number 1 toxic evil bottom for me. Also I looove how he's not like typical loud controlling tyrant or something, but rather really realistically portrayed charismatic, shady, manipulative and passive aggressive person. I like how we can always see him carefully testing the water, observing through small things and gestures.
I also think he mostly acts like that not to lie and trick, but because of his past where he comes from problematic background and had to take care of all his siblings since very young age, so he probably really early developed that observer people-pleaser qualities. And that combined with lower empathy makes him such person that always devides outside performance and inside feelings
And Minwoo despite trying to hide things always fails and is easy to read. But overtime he gets really confused of Chuljin being impossible to really read and giving mixed signals all the time, so he stops understanding where Chuljin is being sincere and where he isn't.
And probably after a few shady situations he just decides that all this time he was the only one, who was in love, while Chuljin was just playing around. Cause when he loves he's sincere and open and Chuljin never truly was, so he decided that everything was a lie.
But in reality I think that Chuljin just really was like that from extremely young age and having feelings towards Minwoo didn't magically make him act normal and open. mostly because his self-control and "outside acting" are just way too powerful
Hi. So I read another comment from you somewhat explaining the rest of season 4. I was trying to read the raw but cannot understand well due to the language barrier. Maybe somehow you could help me understand why Minwoo was begging Chuljin to come back to him and confess everything all of a sudden? I thought it would have some big secrets revealed to clear the misunderstanding but the forgiveness just came out of nowhere. Also we saw Chuljin actually having sex with someone else but when Minwoo found out, Chuljin is the one who is angry at him??? Im going to hell to find out what is going on !!
So the main reason why Minwoo hated Chuljin so much imo was never anything that Chuljin actually had done, but rather Minwoo hating himself for spending so much time, effort and feelings on love he found one-sided, where he was a complete fool, while Chuljin was never sincere or genuine and just used him from the start.
So when Chuljin came back Minwoo was extremely angry and decided to play mad, partially as a defence method to avoid being used by Chuljin one more time. But when he finally found out the size of the game Chuljin was playing to get back to him - his world completely changed. Like Chuljin was stalking him through multiple people he found on the gay dating app, in fact he had this app only with one single purpose - information about Minwoo (while Minwoo thought the he was just a whore or something), the relationship between the second couple where basically built by Chuljin too to avoid Minwoo to be with Norman, also now that Chuljin now is rich and famous, so there was no need for all that and multiple other things.
After discovering that Minwoo understood that you won't do all that just to make fun of someone and that Chuljin was deeply obsessed with him this entire time. His problem was never anything morally bad, that Chuljin had done (like Minwoo isn't really a fair player himself and the fact that he got all his techniques from copying Chuljin too), but rather the thought of Chuljin being indifferent to him.
That realisation was too overwhelming for him, so he finally threw away his "mad" defence mask and he also regressed in a way, falling one more time and even harder for Chuljin. So after all that he wasn't even giving a smallest shit about Chuljin sleeping with someone else because he knew that all this time Chuljin was obsessed with him only
And Chuljin was angry in the end because he was so sure about him completely controlling Minwoo and basically reading Minwoo like an open book, that he never expected such a thing from him especially after Minwoo crying for him on knees.
But that was actually Chuljin's brother, who leaked the vid of Chuljin having sex with the other guy and Minwoo just took a blame to save Chuljin's relationship with his family (but that was kinda stupid ngl and feels a little like drama just for the sake of drama).
So in the end Chuljin was right about feeling like he completely controlled Minwoo and there're some massive problems inside Chuljin's family (like poverty and his brother hating him) that we're not yet aware of
Omg thank you. How come I completely missed the revelation that Chuljin is actually stalking Minwoo this whole time!!! Their relationship is a mess with too many misunderstandings but they love each other deeply so I can't wait for season 5 (but kinda hope ss5 is the final one cause this story has been dragged out for so long and I seriously cannot wait for another year). By any chance you know when can we have ss5? Ss4 ended 2025 October and now it's June 2026 already
As far as I remember in the beginning of the spring author said on twitter that she would be absent for 8 more months cause of wrist injury or something, so season 5 should be in the end of 2026.
I also hope it would be the last one, cause dragging the drama would really ruin their dynamic for me. But like their whole relationship is balancing on like this very complex dynamic and that could be easily ruined and turned into another boring cliche if done wrong, but so far author has been really good and consistent with them and other pairs, so I trust the process
Whattttt??? 8 months!!! I should have wait before re-reading this again T_T. I was obsessed with the story from the beginning (in 2021) and gave up mid way due to the long ass waiting. Accidentally picked it up again cause I thought it must have ended long ago. Turn out 200+ chapters and still have to waittt. ARGGG!!!
I think rn it's obvious, that the god ruins and kills everyone around mc on purpose to make mc hate him and maje mc wanna kill him, cause perhaps mc is the only person who can do that and this god wants to die. But like also this god has feelings for mc since mc's past life where he was the only one who was kind to the baby god?? And that cult where mc's grandma was probably was the thing that started reviving this god in this lifetime??
I don't think so cuz at last chapter ml looked so green flag