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yomiiii July 20, 2026 6:28 pm

whats up with nanjo? im worried his past behaviour with sunhwa will get retconned (treating him like an angel sent from heaven) when this chapter shows he knew sunhwas intentions, maybe sunhwa reminds him of a past lover? whatever the case it still doesnt explain why he humoured mokyeon for so long. also i dont feel bad for mokyeon at all and his actions shouldve landed him with worse consequences (ngl some of u are a lil too easily swayed) but still i think his character is written rather decently, i just hope nanjos character doesnt end up being a weak link in the story when everything finally gets revealed

    OtakuPlebian July 20, 2026 7:07 pm

    ii agree on nanjo's arc being weird rn hopefully it comes tgt in a way that makes sense

yomiiii July 17, 2026 9:26 am

man im so glad i gave this a proper read, i kept dropping it around chap 9 but it gets sooo good by the middle and end def a recc

yomiiii July 16, 2026 4:54 pm

han ah u push over. maybe his type is actually just black haired dark eyed psychos

yomiiii July 12, 2026 8:37 pm

actually kind of disappointed, why was the ending so rushed it needed atleast 10 more chapters to conclude ngl

yomiiii July 10, 2026 6:02 pm

bro atleast start with an apology to sunhwa also he deserved that beating, s2 is rlly starting off strong im highk excited now

yomiiii June 28, 2026 8:44 pm

wtf is vol 2 about actually wtf was chapter 8 on i love this manga

yomiiii June 21, 2026 9:24 pm

why does changdeok look younger than jongwoo now

yomiiii June 16, 2026 7:03 pm

ive tried reading this a few times but i genuinely cant. this isnt even a good psychological story, it doesnt stick to its guns by portraying the rape as an actual "unforgiveable crime". i saw someone on here say that the rape was well drawn and made to look disgusting but it literally wasnt, they have jiwook doing the ahegao face covered in cum every few chapters. you cant justify him getting raped by saying he also did the same to juyeon, if you're glorifying one persons rape then you're glorifying every type of rape. you cant have your cake and eat it too

also the use of chibis to make things look playful, doing the shalala effect on juyeon to tone down his horrendous actions and paint him as just a pretty boy. idk why they didnt just go for a bdsm setting instead of all this. its actually such a waste of their designs and dynamic.

    Max June 15, 2026 2:13 pm

    I actually think Juyeon is in the right and he should go harder. I don’t really care about what happens to dudes who make CSAM. I am having my cake and eating it too. Juyeon is funny as hell. But regardless of what you think about the designs and dynamic being wasted on a toxic “couple” who rape each other, there would have been no point in a bdsm setting because consent is the foundation of bdsm. This story is built on the deprivation of consent and showing Jiwook’s constant misery in a way that makes you feel bad for him before the big reveal comes and relieves you of any of your sympathy for him. And I mean, it’s working if you keep coming back to it to try again like even the loyal fans do.

    yaribari June 15, 2026 9:10 pm
    I actually think Juyeon is in the right and he should go harder. I don’t really care about what happens to dudes who make CSAM. I am having my cake and eating it too. Juyeon is funny as hell. But regardless o... Max

    youre just as bad as him

    Max June 15, 2026 9:29 pm
    youre just as bad as him yaribari

    That argument is so innocent lol. He isn’t real. But sorry my heart doesn’t bleed for the dude who couldn’t keep his dick in his pants and raped Juyeon first.

    ta mere June 15, 2026 11:35 pm

    idk who told you that bc this manhwa is clearly rape fetish porn for gooners

    yomiiii June 16, 2026 6:35 pm
    idk who told you that bc this manhwa is clearly rape fetish porn for gooners ta mere

    i had previous comment on here alleging that, i saw some people say that atleast its sort of a "psychological" manhwa when its really just the authors poorly disguised fetish

    yomiiii June 16, 2026 7:02 pm
    I actually think Juyeon is in the right and he should go harder. I don’t really care about what happens to dudes who make CSAM. I am having my cake and eating it too. Juyeon is funny as hell. But regardless o... Max

    honestly it's my fault for expecting a yaoi manhwa to have nuance. most of these are written simply based on fetishes. my issue isn't with whats happening to the original abuser but rather how the act itself is being portrayed, as i said, the rape is drawn in a glorified manner, a lot of people justifying what happened to jiwook mightve even gotten off to juyeons original assault if the plot was different. thats why i said "you cant have your cake and eat it too."

    i'm mostly just yelling into a void though because this manhwa is literally made for those with this specific fetish so really there was no point in me starting this discussion or hoping that it was more palatable to my personal tastes, i realise that now.

    but overall i still think its written rather poorly though it could just be the manhwa adaptation screwing it up, i wouldn't know though as i wont be touching the novel anytime soon.

    Max June 16, 2026 9:12 pm
    honestly it's my fault for expecting a yaoi manhwa to have nuance. most of these are written simply based on fetishes. my issue isn't with whats happening to the original abuser but rather how the act itself is... yomiiii

    The novel is pretty much the same, it’s fetishistic, but I think the novel is a little better at building the atmosphere. Like I said, it’s misery porn. I think you can find nuance if you look, but I never went in headfirst expecting a tasteful, avant garde psychological horror. I’m just here because I like the idea of a guy in yaoi doubling his rape and giving it back to his rapist. But that’s not for everybody. This story was always going to be polarizing.

    Max June 16, 2026 9:18 pm
    i had previous comment on here alleging that, i saw some people say that atleast its sort of a "psychological" manhwa when its really just the authors poorly disguised fetish yomiiii

    It’s not really disguised. It’s super blatant. The psychological components are there, but even the best dark/psychological nsfw BL like to lollygag and overindulge in the fanservice. Killing Stalking is guilty of this, with Koogi pandering to fujoshis constantly despite KS not being a romantic story in the slightest, but it’s still peak cinema so idc. I left another comment the other day talking about MADK, which is probably one of the most visually appealing BL I’ve ever read, and chock full of the author’s most extreme, taboo kinks.

    Arbeez June 17, 2026 2:56 am

    I'm ngl this is probably the best, most comprehensive thread I've seen discuss this manhwa

yomiiii June 10, 2026 6:22 pm

hyunhos the exact type of person i cant get along with irl so im lowk just biased, bro was a menace in all about lust and continues to be one here so atleast hes consistent lol. theyre still kind of cute tho and im glad he found someone to be with, this author is amazing with how they write their characters

p.s: i miss wooseong and jaehee :(

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