Bitches be so happy when this updates as if its not another chapter of jiwook getting brutally raped and assaulted. Enough rapeslop defenders in my comments, please leave me alone And enough of the dislikes, i have multiple of yâall saying you like that aspect in my comments.
Acting like some of us aren't victims ourselves the world unfortunately doesn't revolve around you or me or others regardless of their situation and trauma it's up to them to have boundaries not everyone else to not read stories like this because others will be offended. We don't need you moral police on a pirating site of all places
Hey ic ur being way too rude...listen we all come from different environments, way of life n truma.. all our perspectives r different...it's totally fine if you don't like this manhwa..many don't...but there r ppl out there who went through similar things n might find familiarity in this manhwa.....that's why they like it....you can't just insult n assume someone's preference based on ur own judgment n hurt them...it's very immature
Tip on how to better respect victims! If they resonate with something you find personally disgusting just tell them to keep it to themselves! Itâs not silencing. Itâs keeping the streets clean. /s come on man, you can argue or push back against their point without immediately telling a survivor to not bring up their perspective because it inconvenienced you.
Youâd think someone so hellbent on respecting victims would focus less on the chibis and have some critical thinking about the fact that not every single one is a monolith. You can find survivors who will agree with you 100% and survivors who disagree with you. Youâre totally free to disagree with a survivor and argue back without immediately resorting to âjust be quietâ. As if that language isnât shame-compounding and belittling. Everyone has different experiences and perspectives and nobody is inherently the authority on whatâs ârightâ for them. Just accept that abuse survivors are going to hate or like whatever they want.
Bwahahaha AHAHAHAHAHA damn so u actually r.....ok so ic u have been fighting the whole comment section alone 4 a while....uc the victim ur fight about the bottom actually grapped the top in high sch...not just grape but gang grape took picture n threatened the top....it's like a revenge arc rn...so r u still gonna go with all ur high n mighty cute act...bwahahaha anyway ur fun...it was nice meeting you...u can keep fighting with rest of the comments section...sorry 4 interrupting little guy.. * blows a kiss..
Again, never said that..? Youâre purposely misinterpreting why I mentioned the chibis in the first place. You wanted the evidence of rape not being taken seriously, so I gave it to you. And I'm pretty sure youâre against the chibis too? If I recall correctly, you said ânobody said the chibis were respectfulâ
Rape survivor makes a fair and balanced point about how rape survivors arenât a monolith and some may find catharsis in works like these while others are extremely averse to them.
You: âkeep it to yourself then???â How is that not you point blank telling someone who is a trauma survivor to be quiet? Or are you fumbling now that youâre talking to a real survivor and not a chibi one.
Jiwookâs rape isnât being taken seriously because heâs a rapist. Hope it helps. And yeah congrats on reading that I said, nobodyâs looking to a smut-heavy pornified rape and revenge story for respect and tastefulness. But manhwa doesnât hurt anybody I fear. Shaming survivors who disagree with you does.
Iâm not against the chibis because Jiwook had it coming. But if itâs any consolation, Iâm positive the Juyeon backstory chapters about his rape wonât have any chibis because itâs the heaviest part of the novel and the rape isnât even shown graphically. Which is the other reason Iâm so tickled by your fixation on the chibis. Why not focus on the fact that every five chapters the reader gets a big, spanking closeup of Jiwookâs gaping hole as your proof that the story is distasteful? At least then Iâd say #fairs. Itâs not hurting nobody but itâs obviously voyeuristic in nature.
Oh my god. That doesn't mean to âstfuâ or âto be quietâ. That means if you seek enjoyment or cope with fiction like this, (fiction that's proven to be harmful) then just enjoy it in private. It doesn't mean that they can't share their perspective, or that they can't argue back with me, or whatever tf youâre talking about.
Okay, there seems to be a repeating pattern where you just make up words and say I think that. I'm sorry for shaming the rapeslop manhwa, even though you yourself said it wasn't respectful towards victims. This whole time all I've been saying is fetishized rape is bad, yet I'm STILL arguing with you. If that's shaming victims, then you might as well say half of the world shames victims.
Okay, I love the ideology that we should fight rape with rape, and how you think that your babe Juyeon does no wrong despite getting gratification from raping someone. (the same thing that Jiwook got gratification from) And your descriptions of your favorite graphic revenge porn rape are honestly repulsive.
Rape porn manhwa readers get so hot when other people also read rape porn. Whatâs up with that? Iâll shit on anyone whoâs being a hypocrite in the comments regardless of who they are or what trauma theyâve suffered. Idrk why op is acting like Iâm saying that survivors should be allowed to do anything they please. Iâve dogged on people who happened to be survivors who were also racist, TERFâs, or harassing minors regardless of their stance on the story. Having an opinion is not an offense. Just like theyâre allowed to share their hot takes, weâre allowed to respond to them.
So many people bring up the fact that the MC raped the ML in the past. But does that mean itâs okay to take revenge for rape with rape? I donât think some people understand that rape is never okay.
If the ML really wanted justice, he could have reported him to the police. The bruises were there, and logically, there would have been DNA evidence too. It honestly feels like the author only added the rape for the sake of the smut.
But you do realize that rape is never okay, right? Nothing justifies the MLâs actions. The ML just a pussy.
Gonna copy and paste my response to you in another thread here for anyone whoâs genuinely curious as to why Juyeon didnât go to the police.
âjiwook was caught by the cops in the middle of sexually abusing Juyeon. The only thing that happened to him was a slap on the wrist and a community service stint. No reparations and no nothing for the real victim. You can say âwell juyeon shouldâve killed him then!â Sure, but then heâd go to jail and nobody would be willing to look after his mentally ill mother. He killed two birds with one stone by getting revenge in the one way Jiwook would never dare report and by keeping the object of his obsession under his thumb.â
Itâs okay. At the end of the day, the arguments that the manhwa is either 100% empowering or 100% demeaning for survivors is entirely arbitrary and subjective. You could bring in an equal amount of trauma survivors and make them argue it out like a Jubilee video and it still wouldnât make it any less arbitrary. The people who say that all rape survivors should be super hyped for rape and revenge stories are also wack and should be called out. Iâm tired of the perfect, chaste victim mentality where the second a survivor doesnât fit their idea of victimhood, such as expressing sexuality through taboo fiction, they become âpart of the cycle the hurt themâ. Itâs insulting.
Coming back to THIS thread again to let everybody know that this dumb bird thinks that Juyeon getting fucked over by the police and justice system is unrealistic, that he shouldâve tried harder to get justice, and that killing his rapist is even more wrong than raping him. In the year Iâve been reading this manhwa I have never seen so many cold takes in a row. That shi almost sobered me up you know what, why donât we all just stop arguing about whoâs using survivor-shaming rhetoric and just make fun of this goofy.
You know that the story is written by the author, who isnât a 100% reliable source about Korean police. Do you really think that in real life it would be exactly the same? Then Iâm sorry for you. No, because we would never know what would actually happen since the story is made up. But youâre holding on to it like the same thing would actually happen realistically in real life. I mean, I wouldnât know either, but you also shouldnât be so confident about it. Acting like you know everything smh.
Why would he go to such lengths as killing him? Mate, why do you keep treating that as an option? Rape and killing aee both absolutely wrong. Okay, even if you say the police wouldnât do anything, then he shouldâve cut all contact with the ML. But since itâs a rape slop, he used all of his 67 IQ and thought that taking revenge or responding to rape with rape is the best option of all. And somehow youâre not against it? Youâre genuinely messed up.
So hypothetically, you would feel comfortable going to Korea, which has some of the highest repeat offender statistics in the world, and if you were unfortunately abused by some creep, you can say with confidence that youâd be treated with care and compassion by the coppers and that youâd receive a fair trial where the perpetrator is punished accordingly to the hurt you experienced? The story is made up, but like Iâve been saying for all this time, the justice system failing Juyeon and his mother is not unrealistic. We wouldnât even be waffling about the irl Korean police if you hadnât said so confidently that if this story was real, then the cops would care and mete out justice accordingly. So much of this story takes huge liberties with basic physics, human anatomy, and logic, but not with this. Iâve given you evidence to show you.
Tbh we wouldnât even be talking about the real life legal system if they hadnât brought it up first. They were running defense for the real Korean cops for literally no reason at all when all I did was explain that Juyeon was fucked over legally in the context of the novel. So now weâve left the noncon yaoi fiction ballpark and are talking about real life. I have some fucked up fictional tastes but I will object if someone has a weird ass take about real world issues.
Because I want to hear the viewpoint of people who gave this a five-star rating and who say that itâs peak fiction. How can you call something thatâs barely yaoi âpeakâ? I just want to see if they even acknowledge how messed up this is, out of curiosity. Itâs not like Iâm begging people to reply to me. And mostly, if you point out that this yaoi is just rape slop, all they can say is that âitâs just fiction,â and when they say that I can absolutely tell that they havenât been taught in school how to debate and bring actual valid points. But I must say that there actually are people who can bring up valid points.
It also depends on whether Iâm a wealthy tourist, because if I were, it wouldnât be overlooked. But if I were dirt poor, then no one would actually care, and the same applies in other countries as well. But as far as I know, the ML was poor(?), so it actually makes sense now. Well, youâre right, they failed him. This actually could have been peak psychological yaoi if it didnât include any rape and if the author had actually written the story a bit better. I think this is my honest opinion.
Yeah but ur not "too woke" advocating for censorship isn't too woke. And bashing and ignoring the "bad" victims isn't too woke. Accepting everyone is woke. Working towards a progressive society is true woke. Stepping backwards isn't. Y'all can't even use blk ppl slang right. At least be honest, it's a conservative take centered around a closed mind that lacks perspective. Plus we are here enjoying a story! Ofc we are gonna gush about characters we like lol
I'm gonna say this nicely. Fiction doesn't have to be respectful to be valid. It's right to exist no matter if you're uncomfortable, or anybody else, it's right to exist remains. So hating on an art work that has been made, complaining about morals when you and me are viewing this for free at that looks goofy. They brought up age because you seem immature to think your values govern over everybody else. If you find this work so disturbing that it makes you insult others. (Yes claiming ppl who read this support irl rape to some degree is harassment) Then clearly YOU are the problem nobody else. You're arguing with 5 people because your point lacks any depth beyond surface level. And again you continuously read and comment about how you hate this manhwa confused on why ppl who are idk continuously reading a manhwa they enjoy defend it??? People can like what they like and dislike what they dislike. But the least you can do on a pirating website is be respectful of the work you see on here and the people who enjoy it. You have the privilege of not wasting your money to drop something you don't like.
It always leads back to censorship with yall when no one mentioned it. Praising rapists is not progressive and never will be. And i also dont know where this whole victim mentality comes from, saying fetishized rape is bad doesnât only apply to victims. Im not sure why we all jumped on that bandwagon
wanna know sum even cooler? fiction only affects reality if you let it, wow so crazy too huh !!! if ur looking at a fictional gay porn story and thinking "oh this makes me wanna repeat the actions of this fiction" then thats on you as a person. if ur in such a weak mental state that fiction is affecting your reality then you shouldn't be reading psychological porn manhwas to begin with, but if you're developed enough to recognize what's happening in the manhwa as bad and acknowledge it, setting clear boundaries between fiction and reality, then no drastic changes will occur to you as a human being. things happen subconsciously aswell, but it will not be as drastic of a change as you are implying. again, you should not be allowed access to unfiltered media if your subconscious reactions turn out to be unnaturally drastic tung tung tung sahur
Youâre just contradicting yourself. You admit that things happen subconsciously, yet think it only happens if you let it. Youâre clearly very desensitized to rape and abuse as you love slop like this. And a question to that, did you choose to be desensitized? I have another question, how did you feel about Song of the Wasteland? I'm sure you vouched for glorified slavery and a white savior trope with the way you think all fiction is fine.
I'm contradicting myself because you're not reading my points. I said I agree that it happens subconciously but not drastic enough to genuinely leave a dent, focus on what I'm saying before replying I don't like this story and I dont know why you thought so LOL it gets a lil too crazy for me at some points - I was desensitized from the beginning because I'm aware this is fiction and that it will never affect me irl, I'm obviously not desensitized to irl rape,?? again, not everything I believe is ok in fiction means its ok in reality. song of the wasteland is a completely different topic because that's about a REAL time period that REALLY happened in REAL life to REAL people with REAL slaves and REAL suffering, are the events happening between Juhyeok and Jiwook real? No? then thats obviously not a good comparison
No clue what youâre trying to say here, youâre contradicting yourself because Iâm not reading your points? It doesnât matter if you think desensitization is not drastic, itâs still happening. Rape has happened to real people?? Those real people in that real timeline that you care so much about, WERE RAPED, WERE ABUSED, WERE EVERYTHING YOU LOVE DEFENDING.
What do you mean by âwhich part am I replying toâ? I answer your comments and allegations in the order you type them. You say you contradict yourself because I don't read your points fully first, I reply to that first. You mention slavery second, I reply to that second. What's so hard to understand about that?
let's use our brains mhm ok ... which part of my reply where you replying to bc what u said makes absolutely no sense mhm ok ... to text me something like that, there must've been an argument of mine that provoked you to type that out mhm ok ... but there was nothing I said that opposed your reply mhm ok ... do u understand this English now mhm ok ...
again, read what I'm saying before replying. I said I'm desensitized to fictional rape because it's not real, the next phrase is LITERALLY me saying how I'm NOT desensitized to REAL rape because that ACTUALLY happened, Jiwook isn't a real person, therefore not real rape. theres "no correlation" because ur not reading shit
You said âI never said i liked this story, so why are you assuming so?â And i said, IN REPLY TO THAT, that you said you drool over rapeslop yaoi in a reverse thinking comment section. Simple english BTW. And if you werenât a messy bitch you wouldnât crowd up your fuckass comments with emojis
who does blud think he is ?? atp its getting boring like I can understand enjoying a debate between two smartasses but when I'm arguing with a dumbass such as yourself with points that they pulled out their slimy crack everything js gets so uneventful make some proper points, aint nothing stopping me from being desensitized in the first place
If youâre black then Iâd assume you know the origins of the word woke and WHY itâs not cool for people, especially nb people to use it frivolously. People do call themselves woke. Itâs supposed to represent black resistance, but now itâs been reduced to an online buzzword. You have the right to use it however you want as a black person but Iâm just agreeing with that other person (who I assume is also blk) who correctly said you used it incorrectly.
But since weâre still talking about yaoi I really like how you acted the part of the uncomfortable sensible person only to get ragebaited into being like âSO BY YOUR LOGIC YOU THINK JUYEON SHOULD GET HIS ORIFICES DESTROYED TOO???â The disgust held up about as strong as an anti piracy warning on a DVD. Very unfortunate.
Yeah, I didn't put that in caps, but the fact that you are still here considering we ended our conversation 19 hours ago is insanity. If you have a problem with me feeling discomfort towards one thing but not the other, just say so. I just wasnât aware I had to explain how my body feels to a random on mangago.. I'll remember this next time. Thank you for educating me
I'm sure the slop lovers who read this nine page thread are going âWow! Thank god max is here fighting the good fight for rape survivors by going back and forth with tiredt 19 hours after i agreed the conversation is over! I also think revenge rape porn is very progressive and that the solution to fight rape⌠is rape!â Oh come on. You take so many words too literally, i never said they were mad. Go get on with your other slop and PLEASE leave me alone
guys pls... i just got enteratined by the unnecessary passive aggressiveness and decided to ragebait... I'm not actually arguing bc u can see I eventually let go of all my points and went to spouting bullshit to irritate her... "If you use cuss words that means you're irritated!" "If you insult someone that means you're irritated!" "if you suck dick you're irritated!" ...pls
You mention the chibis more than me, are chibis your sleep paralysis demons? I donât have a fleet lmao, more than 5 of yâall come here arguing with me just to mention stupid bs like you.â Youâre the one defending fetishized rape, not me. And as ive said (near 7 times now) get on with your rapeslop and leave me aloneee, oh my god. It has been 2 days and you started some more drama for absolutely no reason. Youâre the one who wants to argue, and im 100% sure thereâs someone else willing to.
Oh my god? I donât know how many times i have to tell you this, but me saying âif you like fetishized rape you should keep it to yourselfâ doesnât mean that?? Especially when ive had to specify multiple times (because you never seem to get it after the 5th time) that it doesnât only apply to victims. It being an adult space doesnât mean your rapeslop yaoi is exempt from criticism, and my âfit over yaoiâ was actually a normal concern about the amount of rape that gets sexualized in your favorite revenge porn.
Anyone else excited to stop harassing people for saying rape is badâŚ. Itâs okay, we donât all get the words âleave me aloneâ. Im sure theres a google definition out there just for you. Im sure you think fighting rape with rape is so beautiful, do you frolick in the meadows when your fav gets gratification from beastiality?
What if, now stay with me here, we left people alone when they explain multiple times that they donât wanna continue this conversation..! Now, another what if. What if⌠we stopped harassing people..!!! Might be a hard task, but these are truly the next steps to leaving people alone for not fetishizing rape. I believe in you. Enough with the fighting rape with rape, its honestly disgusting
if u REALLYY wanna be left alone then just stop replying and go about your day?? continuing to engage with this conversation will NOT make anybody go away, you claim you're leaving and telling others to leave along you but you're still replying back and entertaining them, and that makes you a LARP //ok but fr, if u want others to stop, it's common sense not to amuse them
waahh waahh waahh I cant even talk to you like a proper human being without you immediately assuming all I say is evil, get a grip.
if u don't want to stop talking, what makes you think others want to stop talking just because you asked? Take your own advice of silencing thyself and the convo will die down, you're not the victim in every situation known to man. You're not Max's master or some shi for them to immediately obey to your every need, if you keep talking others will keep talking. If you shut up others will shut up.






Shouldve known it would be rape
then now you know this isnt for you, i wanna recommend you winterfall and wolf in the house tho it's actually really good