has someone ever shamed you for reading and liking a manwha/manga that has rape on it? even with the one that has kidnapping and toxic relationships? it happened to me and i'm speechless at the fckery i just went through. i know how to separate fiction from reality but i guess they couldn't process that information.
I mean.. as long as you don't read the rape scenes and find it hot then there is nothing wrong I guess
people with that have no logic lol. its dark romance, not everything is going to be rainbows and unicorns. idk why they gotten mad you have a different taste
uhm, you can?? there's nothing wrong with liking what you like, if you're aware of that this is fiction. no one here defends real life abuse and finds it right
there's nothing wrong with finding the rape scenes hot. In yaoi, 99.9% of those scenes are handled in a seductive way that really shouldn't offend anyone imo. It's yaoi for chrissake. It's supposed to be romantic. Readers can get turned on if they want, and it's none of anyone's business. Why anyone would try to intimidate anyone else into feeling bad about reading what they want and feeling what they want is beyond me.
that's the problem right here.. the way rape scenes are handled to look romantic
there is nothing wrong with liking rape alright :)..
I wonder if you would say that to someone in real life, that loving rape scenes is good
Rape scenes don't make me uncomfortable per se, but I think its pretty hypocritical to say rape scenes are hot only because both guys are hot. If the rapist was an ugly bastard you all would shit your pants and call it disgusting
and if you're all about freedom and free speech, let people express their opinions on the topic. It goes both ways
just keep in mind that what you are reading is unrealistic and disrespectful to actual rape victims who had to go through a horrible trauma that is shown as something hot and cute in fiction
These stories are for adults only, not children. Adults know how to enjoy erotic materials without going nuts and running out the door with their dicks in their hands. Let's be realistic
seriously? There is a difference between fiction and reality. Why are you so belligerent?
of course I would. research shows that rape fantasy is normal. nothing wrong with it.
just forgot the word "scenes" after rape
that's true, but it's yaoi. The artist's job is to make the characters as beautiful as they possibly can.
well, to be very realistic, most of the foreigners who read yaoi online are teenagers, and I've seen 13 year olds who read yaoi freely wich is pretty scary
well that doesn't change anything to what I said lolol.. I'm not saying they SHOULD be ugly, I'm just saying its unfair
You're not making sense, do you realize that? There's no way I can prevent you from typing whatever you want inside your little box. LOL
I mean, you've been pretty deffensive and you look pretty tense with the way you write. I'm just asking you to chill and let people have different views on the matter
If you think rape is cute because its "just drawings" and because the guys are hot, I won't stop you. I just think its gross which is a valid opinion, like any other opinion! Don't worry
Are you saying that we should all have our right to read what we like taken away by law so you can feel okay that females who might have been raped, who might or might not read a yaoi story, don't read something that might offend them? It's not disrespectful of someone's trauma, and if it is, their right to censor and abolish scenes that they find offensive does not come above our precious freedoms guaranteed by the bill of rights.
LOL goofball. That's a little mind game you're playing. Play it somewhere else. Don't try to play it wish me, satan. lmao
I don't care about people who break the law to ruin their own selves reading stuff they should not be reading. Also, irresponsible, neglectful parents are not my concern. not even a little bit
no. it's unfair to try to change the way artists choose to express themselves
reading yaoi with rape in it isn’t bad, but i guess what’s bad is when ppl start to romanticise rape
It's fantasy. It's supposed to be romantic. That's its main selling point
um how is rape romantic...
In a fantasy, it's romantic. It's normal for people to act it out in private. It's normal to like reading an occasional rape fantasy. It's normal to fantasize being raped. Normal. No one should be questioning that. It's obvious that fantasy is part of a normal healthy adult's sex life. Even if you think it's sooo bad, do you seriously think you have a right to censor and abolish what other adults want and need? I don't get you guys. What is the problem? You'd think every adult who glances at a fantasy story is going to rush out the door raping anyone they come across, even fire hydrants. Why are you so against someone's right to freedom? I'll never understand people who want to take theirs and other people's freedoms away. wth? Live and let live. Freedom is what makes life worth living.
eww i nearly gagged u really r a pervert
you do realise that I wrote "if you're aware of that this is fiction and no one here defends real life abuse" right? There are things that called fetish, if you're old enough to know what it means. Regardless of the couples or readers gender, people can like whatever they like
you do realise that I wrote "if you're aware of that this is fiction and no one here defends real life abuse" right? People can have their own sexual life and fetishs, as I respect your choice to not to read it as this is not your cup of tea, you should respect others thoughts. And realise that these thoughts are not normalising rape irl. And yes, I would say rape scenes are good, I do say it and I'll continue to do so because I have friends who respect me and respect that everyone has their own opinion. You may like vanilla, others may like bdsm, somewhere around the world someone may not be enjoying smut. Have a nice day
eww I actually gagged you really are a disrespectful person and an idiot so much that
you can't understand what this person has been trying to say. I'm not going to say "ewww you're a pervert" to someone who has a feet fetish, I'm not going to say "ewww that's disgusting" to a person who like seeing their partner pee, I'm not going to say "ewww you guys are crazy" to someone who likes bdsm... It's a play, for every side of this relationship it should be satisfying. And if every side likes this and enjoys this you have no right to "ewww" someone. This is fiction, a fantasy of this -play-. No one here is going to rape the first person they see, you need to understand that there's a difference between fiction and reality. Irl this is a play of an act which you always need content for. Real life abuse is not acceptable, committing it or defending it. I'm repeating it again, this is fiction and there's difference between fiction and reality.
I think there's nothing wrong with as long as you realize that it's fiction and it's not OK to do it in real life you can like it or whatever but again just don't think it's OK to do it in real life so it's fine if you know the difference between fiction and reality
wtf who even r u & y did u write a whole essay harassing me like what u said was not informative at all and the things that u linked together did not make sense... anyways all i’m saying is that finding rape hot is gross since it’s a real life issue where ppl get traumatised by it and when u invalidate victims feelings, ur part of the problem, it’s toxic to say that u don’t care about rape victims feelings jus because of ur fantasies of wanting to get raped :)
again, totally fine if u read stuff with rape in it as long as u realise while reading it that it’s not something that u should get turned on by <3
have a nice day, random stranger on the internet
Yes I see where you're coming from as long as they know the difference between fiction and real life I think they can like whatever they like as long as they know it's not right to do it in real life and I know totally off topic but love your profile picture
right, i agree with u. also thanks
Yo I just read the comment that you responded to in who wants to get raped like I said it's OK if you know the difference but they're mixing fiction in real life together that makes no sense
I just wanna say it's OK to like what you like if you know the difference between fiction and reality and people go through hell because of them getting raped and I know this won't change your mind but still and you might think you're OK with it but you're probably going to change your mind after you actually 1 drew it so all I'm saying is please be mindful of what you're saying and I'm not trying to take your freedom away this is just an opinion
you literally harassed someone and it's not ok when someone calls you an "idiot". Well I apologize for addressing you like that since it was not appropriate. What I was trying to say is, you just "ewww"d someone when you should have been respectful. And it's not your business if someone gets turned on by these, which is completely normal?? If someone is traumatized by an abuse, they don't have to read it, and as a respect I'm not going to talk about this stuff near them which can be upsetting for them. All I'm trying to say is this is fiction and is alright to feel anything you want. You always need consent irl, even if you're doing a play. It's their own sex life, respect
who said I don't care about rape victims oh my lord give me strength, no.one.here.defends.real.life.abuse.
please read and understand what are you opposing
oh don’t worry, i’m not talking abt u bestie, i was talking abt user raindragon. if u read what they’ve said, u will understand what i mean. i also did some light stalking and found that they literally have a whole topic where they said that they don’t care abt ppls triggers when it comes to rape and their excuse was that they enjoy rape, which invalidates victims feelings.
did my reply even send
i can’t believe i’m out here arguing with a rape apologist ugh
oh it did don't worry, and I didn't know about the users background so I'm sorry I did not get what you were actually talking about at first glance. I just want to say that it'll all be fine if everyone just respects each other tastes and what they do with their partners irl. Thank you for clearing that there's nothing wrong with reading such things. I as a victim of another kind of abuse don't find real life abuse right either. People can like whatever they like since it's their own life while knowing they always need each others consent. Have a nice day
aww it’s okay :) have a nice day!
So like well done here or like no because this is already at like 3 page
Sorry if that sounded rude that wasn't my intention
The kind of character assassination that consists of saying someone enjoys rape - how is that any different than victimizing and violating a person, me? By saying I enjoy rape, you're calling me a rapist. That not true, and I've never said I enjoyed rape or raped a person. that's a horrible thing to say. It's damaging. I enjoy reading some stories with rape in them. That's it. I've never said otherwise.
I should report this comment, but I don't like making trouble. I wish you had the same attitude regarding destroying people, which is pretty close to rape if you're going to rape someone's identity, calling them something as horrible as a rapist. I really don't appreciate this comment.
I don't think a victim's rights come above everyone else's when it comes to freedom. That's what I said. That's not what you accused me of. What you said is intentionally intended cause others to be angry and to hate me. I don't know why anyone would do this to another human being who did nothing worse than disagree with them
I do not agree with you you said on 1 of your last comments that it was natural and people want to be raped what's natural about it
No I should report this comment on 1 of your last comments you said it was natural in people want to get raped what is wrong with you people go to therapy and hurt themselves because of it what is natural about it so please do tell me cause I am so curious if you can actually come up with the excuse
That's a lie.
This is a blatant lie. When you twist someone's words this much, it's not exaggeration, it's lying.
Why would anyone would go on accusing another human being of saying things they nes never said? That's really bad. I've always maintained that rape in real life is wrong. I must have said it a million times. Whatever I say is about freedom of expression for artists, an important right. I'm standing up for our rights, and I have justice as well as the law on my side. I'm opposed to censorship. I'm opposed to those who seek to remove our freedoms. Rape is a crime, and I believe it's important to keep a clear head when deciding where you stand and what you want to do about it. The hysteria and rabid anger I see here with regards to rape in fictional works is what I'm opposed to. It doesn't do the victims or anyone any good. If you're concerned about rape, why not help out in society doing good work in women shelters? They really need help now that the current administration is causing men to be allowed to stay in the same shelters where women go to escape rapists and abusers. If you're a woman, why not do that instead of falsely accusing me? It's not something I can do.
I maintain that not everyone can care all the time about any one crime. I say that people need to pick their battles. Freedom of expression for artists is mine, not rape in real life, not rape's victims. That's the work of other people, women mainly, and I support it, but I don't have any justification within my own life to make the emotional room to frantically worry about it all the time. I hope I've made it clear. Frankly, I'm tired of these accusations. I don't think they're sincere. I think it's a way of being friendly, virtue signalling, and bonding with other commenters at my expense or the expense of other commenters who simply disagree with your politics. That's not justice.
Except for the part where you took the commenters word for who i am and what I'm about, I agree with what you said.
im sorry it seems that I couldn't think enough while I was writing that, as I stated I don't know about your background and I shouldn't have assumed anything with someone's word whom I don't know too. I apologize
that's what I thought. The minute I hit you with the truth, you stop talking. You never had anything on me to begin with.
no problem at all. thank you for saying so, and for being a fair reasonable person.
they have never said something like that, go and check what you thought you have read again. We've been trying to say that theres a difference between fiction and reality which we kept repeating over and over. Can't you just understand that you have to respect peoples tastes, I don't understand what're you trying to do when we already stated and I'm sure made it clear enough that we don't support real life abuse
what they said made perfect sense. It's you. You are mixing up rl rape and fantasy like a shell game. You're spinning it around, adding buzz words like they're ingredients in a recipe. This is serious. Be serious. Don't make it into something beyond the limits of common sense. Finding rape fantasy hot in no way invalidates RL people getting traumatized. RL and fantasy exist in two different worlds. They are not comparable. You can't equate them. It's not toxic to say that you can't possibly care about all rape victims all the time. You have to care more about the people you care about, family, friends. You have to work, make a living. None of that invalidates anyone's feelings, and it doesn't make the person who is try to talk sense "part of the problem."
This "as long as they know" stuff is not appropriate. That's not how adults talk to one another. You don't wag your finger at another adult and say, "as long as you know it's not right." That sort of talk is for the world of parents and children. It's very rude trying to hound adults with a conditional harangue about that which we already know and don't need your to parent us.
Really lying do you want me to show you the comment itself
I think you're a horrible person.
asked and answered - at length.
You are unbelievable. He patiently explained to you what he thinks, and you're being the worst bltch I've ever seen on this site. You need to crawl back into the slime pit you oozed out of. No one with a brain thinks rape is fine. No one condones it. It's a no-brainer. Everyone knows it's wrong. No one says it's okay, and you know it.
YourMiracle, what manga was it?
agree. any low-life can take some joke or some out of context remark and turn it into character assassination. bad people do bad things. I don't think you should be concerned at all. They call themselves "bitch" for a good reason. They just want to fight and hurt others
You know I think it's really great that you have your own fantasy world but have you not read any of the comments in here also again he said it's natural so how am I in the wrong here for telling someone rape is not natural and how am I a bitch for trying to do the right thing the only bitch I see here is you do some research before you do anything stupid
The only bitch and low life I see here is you to you're trying to the fen someone that doesn't deserve defending because he or she did something wrong does that make sense to you also if you just do a little research about the person you're defending you'll see I'm right
Personally you can think what you want about me but I don't care cause I don't care about opinion from an idiot
In personally I don't know why I'm still talking to you guys because you guys are just some bitch's looking for attention cause nobody will give it to you so you're trying to make a ruckus
Just gonna say 1 thing you guys are just looking for attention for no reason because nobody will give it to you I said it to your buddy to so I hope you both get the message and to be honest I wouldn't be surprised if you guys were both the same person
bad person, rape fantasy is normal. that's what was said.
LOL He told you. yes, I read it. you're the one saying and doing bad things
get lost.
ah thank you so much.
i honestly don't know how many times I'm going to say this... I'm not saying that reading yaoi with rape in it is necessarily bad, I'm saying that having a rape fetish, fantasizing about being raped and romanticizing rape is bad. i never even called u a rapist, cause I'm hoping that u aren't one, although i wouldn't know, but u r indeed a rape apologist. when someone reads a rape scene, i can assure u that what they r thinking is, 'damn that's messed up' and not, 'damn that's hot'. what i said isn't damaging at all, in fact, its the truth. idc if i offended u because i jus said what needed to b said. u know what is damaging? saying that u don't care abt victims rights. i suggest u look online to see why romanticizing rape is bad because i can tell u now that u will find a lot of new information that u didn't know in the past.
Oh I see you guys were too cowardly to actually face your problems head on so you decided to hide I guess I was right you guys are bitch's lowlifes and now cowards
now ur just trying to play the victim. stop guilt tripping others jus because u said something that was completely wrong and out of hand. I'm sure u must've gotten into a lot of arguments with ppl before, judging by the way u literally write essays. the thing is though, u rlly don't know how to word things. also, most of the things u say r incorrect. u changed up what u were saying from before, ur twisting up ur words. at the start, u literally said that its okay for ppl to fantasize about rape, which means ur implying that rape shouldn't be taken seriously.
user raindragon i suggest u go see a threapist cuz u have some issues and built in trauma, thats okay though, everyone deals with different situations in their life. i guess the problem with u is that u think that rape is hot in yaoi :/
Thank you finally someone with brains
ew and who r u? stop throwing around insults jus cuz u don't have a valid reasoning as to y u think rape is okay.
thanks bestie :P
No problem bestie(:
can yall help me find this manwha? it's shounen ai and it's about a pink haired guy catching a green eyed (cat like) guy on the nurse's office fooling around but not really? the pink hair guy does archery and the green eye has some childhood trauma
hope that helps-
http://www.mangago.me/read-manga/a_shoulder_to_cry_on/ is it this one?
a shoulder to cry on,,, i think
A shoulder to cry on. A really fantastic story
anyone knows this yaoi manga where the uke has like three or four boyfriends? only one of them knows the uke's other relationship and tolerates it because he doesn't want the uke to feel “suffocated” and leave when he expresses his selfishness
ONE OF THE BOYFRIEND IS THE JEALOUS TYPE SO UKE IS VERY BE CAREFUL NOT TO LET HIS OTHER BOYFRIENDS MARKS HIM
Wtf this ---sounds like a shitty uke . Oh lords. (ʘ言ʘ╬)
LMFFG 4 BOYFIRENDSA
i remember there's a water mage and fire mage? the water mage was a reincarnation and is a villain. she planned to avoid the ml (the fire mage) and somehow ends up sleeping with him? and now the two are currently dating. i think the ml's name is ishid? or was it ashid?
I'm not sure what it is but Living as the Tyran's Older Sister is almost quite the same. They don't have magic powers though, but she ended up sleeping with a different man LOL :)
oh man,,, it's http://www.mangago.me/read-manga/the_evil_lady_s_hero/
this is my absolute fave (๑•ㅂ•)و✧
http://www.mangago.me/read-manga/the_evil_lady_s_hero/
here ya go (=・ω・=)
yoo, thanks a lot! <3
i thought i lost it forever haha!
not quite but i already found it! thanks for the effort
i wonder where can i watch the two seasons
On YouTube or here https://m.ifsp.tv/detail?id=jF9RCMPzjoP
9anime.to
4anime
https://4anime.to
https://4anime.to/anime/mo-dao-zu-shi
https://4anime.to/anime/mo-dao-zu-shi-2
theres the link ^^
it's all free on youtube~~
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLT1K6q-UUgrNF44J0wA1tF9ympn0hR8SB