i just read 143 i hate ilay more and more each chapter he’s genuinely so annoying he acts like it’s gonna kill him to just listen to taeui for once he won’t even let him speak
☠☠☠just be quiet, people can have different opinions and it’s completely reasonable to dislike a character like ilay. i understand it’s fictional and sometimes i do really like evil characters but ilay is not one of them, my personal opinion on disliking a character doesn’t make me lack IQ or EQ the one whose lacking is you because you can’t understand the basic concept of somebody disliking a character for a completely reasonable thing. nobody is forcing you to dislike him, you can like him all you want but you can’t start pointing fingers at people and saying they lack IQ and EQ because their personal opinion on something as stupid as fictional character doesn’t align with yours.
When someone tells me they dislike Ilay I immediately understand why and usually, unless they initiate an elaborate exchange of views, I ignore it. Since I don't have to abide by such etiquette on a pirating website considering that we're all slightly unethical, I'm free to express my irritation for the illogical aspect of your statement.
My point which you're clearly misapprehending is that Ilay's character is highly intricate, hence your tendency to perceive characters shallowly is causing you to dislike him. You're taking my statement of your low eq/iq as an insult, even though it's a fact, not an insult. I'm merely clarifying that your unyielding confidence and stubborn attitude are the cause of your hatred. Cognitive empathy is a pipe dream for someone of your intellectual caliber and I understand that.
Also, since you decided to defend your intellect, you could have further enriched your statement by correctly utilizing 'who's.' Properly said: 'the one who's lacking is you.' If 'lacking' were a possession I could own, your use of 'whose' would have made sense. (In case you're thinking of mentioning that English isn't your first language, I'd advise you to spare yourself further embarrassment.)
oh my god you actually can’t comprehend a single thing i’m trying to say, you seem like an idiot just be quiet. i’m allowed to dislike a character, it doesn’t make me have low iq or eq, you don’t know me at all so you cannot judge that simply based off my opinion on a fictional character like ilay, especially based off of my original comment which was just me expressing how i found it annoying that he wouldnt let taeui explain himself. and i’m not taking offense to you thinking that about me, i just think that you’re being ridiculous… get a life it’s genuinely embarrassing because you’re acting like i’m forcing you to dislike him too when i’m trying to tell you i’m allowed to have my own opinion. you can like ilay as much as you want but other people are allowed to dislike him. simply disliking a character doesn’t make you lack the mental capacity to understand them, you can understand a character and still dislike them. i literally don’t care if you like him, you’re allowed to like him as much as you want and im allowed to dislike him, i don’t understand why it’s difficult for you to grasp that
So you're saying the vocabulary I used in my previous reply was so advanced that you couldn't comprehend a single thing? That's what I'm deducing from your reply. I've fought some of your points in my last reply, like you being allowed to like a character and how 'simply' disliking a character is a consequence of your low intelligence—aka as the inability to perceive from another's perspective. You say you're not taking offense from my factual thesis, yet you're bombarding me with insults. As I previously mentioned, you have an unyielding attitude and an unshakeable confidence, which both are common traits found in people with intellect similiar to yours. The first and ergo most crucial step to overcome this personality flaw is to acknowledge it. Try that out and you'll have an entirely new insight on this whole debate, ultimately noticing how nonsensical, irrational, and embarrassing your comments are. Throughout this whole argument I not once felt as if you were forcing me to dislike Ilay, nor did I have a problem with you disliking Ilay. Disliking smth. is a natural, human feeling that we all share. My point—which you totally missed—is that your hatred for Ilay stems from a lack of understanding. If you read the novel you would know why Ilay was doing what he was doing in the most recent chapters, unless you of course failed to understand it—in depth. I could figure out multiple of your typology types with only these arguments at hand, so yes, I can judge you based on your opinion of a fictional character and any other resource I can access (=・ω・=)
ctrl+shift+u2014+enter and you'll get the em-dash incase that was the source of your accusation. I, unlike a certain someone, pay attention to my grammar and symbol usage therefore my sentences are properly structured and formulated. Also, I wrote my last response rather hastily without as much care as my other ones. I believe the reason you're backing out and admitting defeat now is because you cannot stop your emotions from getting in the way of your analytical and logical thinking. well well gg ferking ez another win for me (=⌒u⌒=)
Insults (facts) from me to you:
low iq
low eq
unyielding confidence and stubborn attitude as negative traits
shallow perception
Insults from you to me:
idiot
low eq and iq (copied from me)
comprehension issues
weird
"get a life it’s genuinely embarrassing"
"you’re being ridiculous"
ai accusation
embarrassing 2x
"girl shut the fuck up"
You say I'm attacking you but I used not one vulgar word or added any unnecessary insults to my statements, I kept a strict objective stand point while you were throwing irrelevant tantrums, hissy fits and insults everywhere. You can actually search it up, those truly are traits of people with lower eq
I'm fighting against Ilay's character being watered down and for Yuji to not get disrespected because individuals with subpar iq are reading yaoi for the sole purpose of reading yaoi without understanding it in greater depth, the intent, meaning, cause, or anything at all besides that the uke is getting his chocco starfish utterly obliterated
I'm not even into men so I don't thirst over Ilay. When I started out with the manhwa I used to be a Taeui glazer like you are, but upon finishing the novel you realize Ilay's character truly is an intricate tapestry, beyond him being a rapist seme. That's exactly what I meant when I said I'm fighting against his character being watered down, because it's unfortunate that a character this great is being defiled by the label "rapist seme" since the yaoi label draws in immature heterosexual females looking for a heartwarming smut story that their simple minds with their superior morality complexes and hypocrisy can't even comprehend
That's merely what you said in the beginning. It was your choice to give me your attention and defend your fragile ego because my factual statement made it feel threatened. Therefore, it is your fault we elaborated this far into our argument. I'm not embarrassing myself, I'm only responding to you and showing you the flaws in your judgement and thinking
first of all im a man second of all people arent "watering" down ilay to a rapist, thats what he is. everytime ilay has sex with taeui, tae is either in pain or repeating the word no. if you get this mad over someone just calling him annoying, get off the fucking internet. you are not cool for arguing about a fictional character that has done morally wrong things for god sake. people dont have to like him. i know theres more to his character, it doesnt matter when hes still a rapist and nothings going to change that except the author. again, get off the internet
I don't see how you being a male correlates to anything but the author did change that. It's really obvious you didn't read the novel, since he starts asking for consent and preferences later on and Taeui very clearly states that he infact does enjoy and want it. The rape in the beginning is nothing more than necessary conflict for the story and is not deep at all. If Ilay is already too much for you, you should mature and grow up before Richard x Christoph appear in the manhwa. Also, Before you tell me to get off the internet again, what else do you think I was doing before responding? Maybe compare your reading lists and mine and then tell me who spends longer on the internet lmao
whoops i read it wrong but yeah im a girl? i was responding to you assuming that i was just a straight girl who’s “ looking for a heartwarming smut story that their simple minds with their superior morality complexes and hypocrisy can't even comprehend” do you really think anyone is looking at passion and reading the tags expecting it to be fluff?
my god youre parasocial first youre assuming im a woman based off zero evidence which is misogynistic and sad if youre a women doing that. ill say im a man when im getting called a woman, how does that not correlate? i dont have to read the fucking novel to understand that i dont need to like a rapist seme. you dont automatically like a rapist if they change do you? so i dont see why it would be different in fiction. like literally this is sad how parasocial and toxic you are to be doing this over a fictional character. you are the one who needs to get off the internet because at least im not the one arguing over fiction and cannot respect peoples opinions
my god your reading comprehension is absolutley down the drain I didn't assume anywhere that you're a female, I merely mentioned that the vast majority of people with an interest in yaoi are women, since that's literally the target audience of yaoi. "you dont automatically like a rapist after they change, do you?" In Passion's case you do, that's what happens to every single Passion fan after they read the novel. You're jumping to conclusions about Ilay while only knowing 1/4rd of his character and refusing to listen to someone who knows everything about him because you're interpreting everything as a personal attack. I can and do respect other people's opinion as I mentioned formerly, but of course reading is a task way too difficult for you so I don't blame you for missing that, don't worry. Also try searching up new insults for your own good, seeing you call me parasocial while you don't even know what parasocial means is just embarrassing. Get off the internet and open a printed dictionary for once. Honorable mention: "at least im not the one arguing over fiction and cannot respect peoples opinions" your hypocrism is truly radiant today
I thought you we're flirting with me that's so lame. Credit me properly should you wish to utilize my meticulously crafted, literarily sophisticated, and professionally orchestrated sequence of words. Regarding the latter section, yes, the comments individuals were leaving in Passion's comment section hints at that. Clearly y'all are getting blinded by Taeui's perspective and thought Ilay had a subtle redemption arc.










lololol there’s no way he’s actually asleep