omg i hate side stories 9-10 so much why would you force him to tell you like that gave me the ick so bad, grown man decides to force bdsm onto his vanilla partner giving him a safeword he chose on his own that he knew lyle wouldn't be able to say... all of that to coax something out of him he was adamant about keeping secret until he was ready
y'all like to preach about not letting fiction warp your morals but you're being VERY quick on your feet defending sexual assault #noticing
well you condoned it enough to make it your profile picture. you are very pressed about this dear, go and take a chill pill fiction has no moral obligation btw, enjoy what you want to enjoy and leave if it’s not for you. yes it was SA but that ceased to be the case when Ideum did not feel violated. what do you get from mockingly trying to get your point across when it doesn’t matter? why are you so concerned about fictional “morality” and supposedly “noticing” people when you could just leave.
well you condoned it enough to make it your profile picture. you are very pressed about this dear, go and take a chill pill fiction has no moral obligation btw, enjoy what you want to enjoy and leave if it’s not for you. yes it was SA but that ceased to be the case when Ideum did not feel violated. what do you get from mockingly trying to get your point across when it doesn’t matter? why are you so concerned about fictional “morality” and supposedly “noticing” people when you could just leave.
getting technical about the process of insertion and whatnot BUT no mention about their dynamic and how it all started… it is more nuanced and layered than that but most of you all are quick to preach OH NO GRAPE, OH NO SA! i didn’t know this entertaining read can cause such an uproar because people love to impose their moral superiority and one track mindedness into it.
you certainly seem more pressed than me posting the same reply twice and ranting at me if you find arguing about fiction to be pointless then why are you here in the first place? And you speak so loudly about their dynamic as if the whole point isn't ideum having no self respect and letting jaeyi doing whatever he wants. That's why jaeyi not respecting him in this chapter hit a bit too hard for most readers who are, justifiably, upset. What would you even wanna talk about in the comment section of a fictional work if not that very same work of fiction? You lot use this argument a lot. "Why argue and get upset when you could just leave/not read?" But why would I do that? Aren't we in this comment section to discuss the manhwa in the first place? Maybe you should down a few of those chill pills you hold so dear
the reply was posted twice because of a glitch girl hahahahah now when did i say it was pointless to argue about fiction? it was only pointless in this situation because you guys seem to care so much about nothing when the “victim” in question was not violated.
“Ideum has no self respect, Jaeyi does whatever he wants.”
if you think that’s the whole point of the story, u reading w your eyes closed hahah god forbid a bottom be a sexually proactive freak and god forbid a top supports the bottom with his work, and learns about his own freakish nature in the process. they both wanted that, it only became uncomfortable because the other one is now aware of his feelings. where were you morally superior beings when ideum sexually assaulted jaeyi during the window scene?
I can’t fault you if you’re clearly projecting on a manhwa that’s supposedly hitting too hard.
Stay and keep arguing your point then, albeit it’s pointless lmao.
"the victim was not violated" says who? Consent given halfway does not make what happened earlier okay. Let me flip it onto you: if you think the only point of the story is ideum being a horndog and jaeyi helping him doing the deed, you have a very shallow take on what the author here is trying to convey. And how was I supposed to prove to you that ideum's behavior was upsetting as well? were you with me when I read the chapter that came out months ago? bffr. Whataboutism isn't gonna get you very far and it looks like you're arguing for the sake of arguing. You went on a whole rant about people being upset at this for nothing cause it's fiction then flip the argument around to tell ME I should've cared about SA when it happened earlier in the story, then proceed to call me a hypocrite? Get your story straight, you're honestly embarassing yourself. If you can't take criticism to a story in a comment section don't try to argue with those who criticize it or belittle their opinion because it's frankly dumb and pointless
you really go on tangents by the way, try to fix that next time. I'm not even gonna ask you how you assuming something about my moral standards from a jpg on my profile picture is supposed to prove I'm a hypocrite OR add anything meaningful to this debate because I know that's not what you were trying to do, but rather just adding fuel to the fire cause apparently you're salty Jaeyi has flaws (?)
can I genuinely ask what about this should be enjoyable to a reader? considering it's not a one time thing either, their whole relationship is built on this. I can't comprehend how someone who likes both characters could enjoy this type of dynamic. Don't come for my head y'all i'm genuinely asking cuz all I feel is disgust
if I see anyone calling him a green flag ever again after this imma crash out you search for you lover for 1 year straight find him almost getting raped and beaten and the first thing you do after bringing him home is to touch/bite/whatever else he did while he's naked and before he even wakes up... If it were real life everybody would agree it's rape, but for now, let's just call it very dubious consent. Sadly my hopes for how this story continues are not very high









what is he doubling down on man a redemption arc's not gonna be enough for this shit you gon need a whole redemption manhwa
we are not gonna a redemption arc heeseo will stay crazy forever like the yandere gods intended
ur right tbh but at least he could start treating him right