my heart fucking broke reading this. 8 years down the drain which they could have spent together. this was just,, mf beautiful. pls this actually shows what would have happened irl and its not just a fairytale univ where everyone accepts each other. THEM MEETING IN ALASKA WAS THE BEST SITUATION!
Tbf MD gave Chanwoo a say in the matter, Chanwoo being the stubborn and hard-headed person he is agreed and gave consent, he was free to walk out at any time. You cant really blame MD bc like Chanwoo agreed to it and MD stopped as soon as Chanwoo said the safe word. I feel like this arc was needed to progress their relationship and all MD really wanted was for Chanwoo to know his limits and stop once it's exhausting, with himsekf knowing at the end that he may have pushed him too far.
*himself
I thought the same !
People became me so dramatic about it ╮(￣▽￣)╭
The volume in this bus is astronomical!
Yeah a say in the matter. If you refused you are being not only abandoned by your new bf. But By me too. Clear manipulation and coercion. But hey love in your bubble that his consent was full, real consent.
Agree
exactly!! everyone is making md out to be the bad guy when chanwoo is just a brat who doesnt know when to quit(〜￣△￣)〜
imo he didn't have a say in the matter. md said that chanwoo would stop being his sub if he doesn't participate in the play. chanwoo doesn't want to lose md, so he went through the play despite being clearly uncomfortable and disgusted. period.
he would have lost MD anyway after showing off his new bf and everything would have been fine. MD won't have agreed to be just a fuck buddy to the brat Chan and honestly why should he be play like this?!
Facts
YES!! This.
I understand what you’re saying but MD literally told Chanwoo that he wasnt forcing him?? He could have up and left anytime, I don’t think it was manipulation bc even tho Chanwoo showed that he felt unpleasant by it it’s not like MD was forcing him or anything
THIS!!
When consent is impacted by threat it's literally coercion. Chanwoo was in fragile mind if state, just betrayed and used and rejected by new bf AND MD threatened him that he will abandoned him too if he won't participate in play.
It's clear manipulation and coercion.
I think using the word “threatened” is a bit of an overstatement. We know MD would never do anything to harm Chanwoo, instead he wants Chanwoo to actually speak out and USE the safe word when he feels like it’s going too far. I see where you’re coming from though.
I can agree maybe the threat isn't the most word but still putting conditions which impact the consent is rather manipulative and for me just wrong.
Imo MD isn't in the place to give Chanwoo lessons, especially such extreme one, that can any movement backfired and end up in tragedy.
You shouldn't start up the play with ulterior motives and feelings involved.
And judging on the smirks that the grudge was also a factor in all of this.
But thanks for cultural discussion.
Yeah honestly I agree with you but I still don’t think MD was in the wrong, although what you’re saying is ethically correct.
I ignored this manhwa for a while but THIS IS A GEM, A DIAMOND NOT EVEN UN THE ROUGH, LIKE AMAZING PLS READ IT
FUCK YES FINALLY ANOTHER UPDATE, IM TIRED OF HAVING TO RESORT TO THE SPANISH RAWS
just realised it’s in japenese, i beg someone pls take the translation and change it to English