Omg people really think that only uke's suck dick ?! O.o what the.. In what world am I living then
I've seen a lot of semes doing it to pleasure their ukes, and never once i had mistaken who the seme is just because he sucked the other off
same like wtf
Ok, but Haesoo saying that Taku is the first one who tells him that he likes is writing, was soo ??? ,_, Taku said >thats tragic<, Haesoo went >Me?< and he replied with >Those people< (who don't read it) while he rested his chin on Haesoo's shoulder i'm so soft okay, bye
I'm sold. *_*
UWU
I cant with these people saying Taku is manipulative. I even read >if his intentions are out of love, its very underhanded< Like?? Taku is patient and doesn't push Haesoo. He respects him, and even defended him in front of his co workers. He proofed several times that he's a straight forward person, and that he's not manipulative at all. Again, what the fuck is 'underhanded'? Do people expect Taku to force Haesoo to a blow job as well?
Taku is literally that type of character who'd accept a bad ending for himself, as long as the memory was good (as long as haesoo is happy). (Proof: Chapter 38. They talk about Taku's uncle, and Taku said that even tho the story is sad, he doesn't mind it because he liked his uncle).
He canceled their sex scene, because Haesoo started crying, and yall got nothing better to do than calling him manipulative and saying Joowon deserves better? Joowon, the one who thinks it's Haesoo's fault for breaking the character rules as if they're just movie actors (chapter 39). The one who doesn't listen when Haesoo says no. The one who treats Haesoo like a cheap whore ?
"If your best defense of Joowon is to trash down other characters, that says a lot."
If you genuinely think that there's a healthy warm relationship going on between Haesoo and Joowon, you REALLY should seek help, because I literally worry about you for getting into the same relationship that will only break you down.
Istg if I see one person saying 'sis its just a comic, its just fiction' Yes this is just fiction. Now what? So we shouldn't have conversation about this story at all, because its not real after all?
oh, and @deepika. Awesome, you blocked me lmao. You still read my comments and I will still reply to your silly thoughts. You know I'm right and you're wrong, so now you're running away Wow.
Ps: If anyone feels offended by this, grow some balls <3
This^^^
All of this!
Then most scariest thing about these types of relationships wether fiction or non-fiction is that someone can be completely destroyed by staying in it. And it may seem like Taku is manipulative but I'm reality I think Taku knows the most of what haesoo is feeling now tell me when your with someone do you look at them as a PERSON or do you look at them as how you want to SEE them. Ofc takus not perfect he makes mistakes and he tries his best to learn from them he does his best in everything and one thing I'm sure of is that Taku will never make haesoo cry he'll try his best too because think about it a man or woman that makes u cry, and regret, and is slowly breaking you, it isn't safe or right to stay in a relationship like that. And even if joowon bought a ring and everything for haesoo the point is he treats haesoo like an object and he's overly possessive with everything he does never considering the other person's feelings as to whether or not what you say or do may hurt them. But haesoo is not that much better he leaves himself open to these type of things because he's been exposed to them since he was younger. He was never taught to love or how to be loved much less actually shown it so now when Taku shows up he's afraid, afraid that the happiness he telling with him right now may eventually end. And when you think about it haesoo is still under joowons control because joowon trained him like that wether intentionally or unintentionally which makes this whole entire situation crazy as it is.
Then most scariest thing about these types of relationships wether fiction or non-fiction is that someone can be completely destroyed by staying in it. And it may seem like Taku is manipulative but I'm reality I think Taku knows the most of what haesoo is feeling now tell me when your with someone do you look at them as a PERSON or do you look at them as how you want to SEE them. Ofc takus not perfect he makes mistakes and he tries his best to learn from them he does his best in everything and one thing I'm sure of is that Taku will never make haesoo cry he'll try his best too because think about it a man or woman that makes u cry, and regret, and is slowly breaking you, it isn't safe or right to stay in a relationship like that. And even if joowon bought a ring and everything for haesoo the point is he treats haesoo like an object and he's overly possessive with everything he does never considering the other person's feelings as to whether or not what you say or do may hurt them. But haesoo is not that much better he leaves himself open to these type of things because he's been exposed to them since he was younger. He was never taught to love or how to be loved much less actually shown it so now when Taku shows up he's afraid, afraid that the happiness he telling with him right now may eventually end. And when you think about it haesoo is still under joowons control because joowon trained him like that wether intentionally or unintentionally which makes this whole entire situation crazy as it is. (︶︿︶)＝凸
Sorry it repeated itself
Man I'm so deeply in love with Taku. He's so mature for his age, but things he likes are partly childish (candy, cats). The author puts so much work into him. In the cover of ch.37 light freckles suddenly appeared on his face, which weren't there ever before. Youngdam is (from what i've heard) obsessed with the Japanese culture, and it's really showing.
I totally see why people found him sketchy at first, but seeing him do nice things for Haesoo/talk nice about haesoo (defending him from his co-workers and boss, and telling his friend that Haesoo's feelings matter too), while he isn't even there, is just making my heart flutter.
Both, Haesoo and Taku, seem to have never fallen seriously in love before. And, argh- I just want them to be together so badly, sorry yall.
Really important question that's been bothering me: Do Joowon, Joowon's dad, and Haesoo's mum know about Haesoo's work ?? I mean, Haesoo is not an anonymous writer, right? (Correct me if i'm wrong) And as a mother or step brother, i'd definitely be curious about the work of my son/'boyfriend' lmao.
"Both, Haesoo and Taku, seem to have never fallen seriously in love before."
Wait ... not disagreeing because I don't know but how's Taku been seriously in love before? I'm thinking the author is ramming the opposite idea since Taku showed up ... the way he describes his relationships, the candies .... ( no one left a mark, he has had interested and liked people but he never fell in love ...) ... then from the future raws (chapter 36) he saying he has never been hurt by someone before .... to me it sounds the author want us to know Taku has never been seriously in love before and this is yet another contrast between him and Haesoo.
Oh wait, now I see that you meant they never fallen in love before.... but then I disagree because Haesoo has been in love with Joowon. Although I think that maybe it became a habit rather than love afterwards...
Those freckles are super cute.
righhtt?
you answered your own question, yeah. Of course its kind of a matter of what you define as 'love'. For me there's no genuine love between haesoo and Joowon. They like each other, for sure, but over the years it turned more into an unhealthy habit. Although, I have to say that they seemed to be more innocently in 'love' when they were younger (especially haesoo since he started crying after joowon told him not to fall for him. which was also weird). Still, haesoo just never had the chance to learn/get to know real love. There's no trust between him and Joowon. No support, no comfort, no safety. It's lacking everything while Taku seems to have it all (which Haesoo is slowly realizing).
sorry if my english kinda sucks. it's 5am and i'm german lmao
shoulders be gettin wider with every god damn chapter
First of all, Taku is not a stalker, and Yes I am team Taku. Why the fuck do people see ANY point in the relationship between Jowoon and Haesoo? It's toxic, for both of them. It's been going on for god damn years, and the Jowoon stans still thinl there's any hope? Fuck no, Haesoo needs to get out of there and Jowoon better stop being so manipulative
Taku catches feelings for Haesoo.
Uh, spoiler alert? Jk, it was obvious. At first Taku does definitely seem suspicious (gotta admit), and even now we still dont know much about him, but there already SO many sign about his past (example: the lighter he's caring with him). I won't explain everything in detail, BUT YALL DUMB AF FOR THINKING THERE'S ANY HOPE FOR JOWOON AND HAESO. OPEN YOUR EYES AND LOOK AT THE COVER. AND YES I'M AWARE OF THE FACT THAT THIS IS JUST FICTION, BUT DOES THAT HOLD ME BACK FROM TELLING ME WHAT I'M THINKING ? NAH-UH, HONEY. I'M JUST OUT HERE SAYING THE FACTS, OK.
THANK YOU, GOOD NIGHT/DA
Ps: If this text actually triggers you, grow some balls. I'm just joking. Still, go taku !
Thank you!! At one point I thought the same thing when it came to people's theories about the 3 of them doing a photoshoot but not anymore cuz(spoiler)
taku has already expressed his jealousy about joowon and said he regretted asking haesoo about his first time and admitted he liked haesoo and haesoo's heartbeat after taku tells him he likes him don't make things any better
Predictions:
I can see Haesoo rejecting taku a few times more tho and he'll probably give in at the photoshoot with an excuse like it doesn't count cuz its for the camera type shit.
I really want to hear ONE GOOD point about the relationship with Joowon. Like seriously, what the fuck? Some say 'he loves him', BUT HAESOO LITERALLY HIMSELF ADMITTED THAT HE'S EMOTIONALLY BROKEN. WHY ARE PEOPLE SO DBSBSGZABZYAV
I'm glad you agree with me. Taku would be a great change for Haesoo. He'd honest and straight forward. Not like that asshole, Joowon.
I mean, I get that Joowon does care for Haesoo (bro he better) at some point, but he seems to know that he's hurting Haesoo, yet he keeps doing this bullshit. Like, fuck off.
Anyway, I love this author!
Same! I think there's going to be a loooot of drama, but Joowon is definitely losing.
Mmm that's some good food, thank you. Jowoon and Haesoo are NOT good for each other. Unless there's a major change, their relationship is just going to continue in a circle of toxicity.
Taku is a bit hard to read but at least he's straightforward and honest with his feelings for the most part.
I do respect the Jowoon fans despite me heavily opposing him because we all just want Haesoo to be happy but god I wish some would stop saying Jowoon and Haesoo love each other. That's not love lmao
I think the main point of this comic is that Haesoo is the main character and he is stuck within this love triangle, in which he should pick the BEST and most HEALTHIEST candidate that will make him happy, so yes that would be Taku. I mean their relationship is barley blossoming but I enjoy the way Taku takes care of Haesoo, he seems to genuinely care about him.
Joowoon's the type of guy that's too pussy to settle within a relationship but he'll continue to string along Haesoo and get angry and jealous when Haesoo wants to move on and be happy LOL. Notice anything? That's called TOXICITY and it's common in hetero relationships too. and that's the tea!
team taku all day, i do like joowon though, i just dont ship them together. also have you read the raws? if anyone wants to i can post a link
here is the link in case u want it:
https://toonkor.cab/러브-오어-헤이트 (idk if the link will work or not but i tried) (づ￣ ³￣)づ
edit: it works hehe ╮(￣▽￣)╭
i read the raws! That's why I know that Taku does develop feelings for haesoo, but thanks anyways ^^
your welcome! (づ￣ ³￣)づ
If the story is literally about Haesoo finding way towards Takuto, the title wouldn't have been 'Love or Hate'. That's obviously referring to his relationship with Joowon. Who knows Takuto might just be a trigger for this toxicity to go down somewhere. We didn't see Joowon do anything serious yet, maybe with Takuto around the new round will start.
I-I... I just read all 52 chapters in one go..
A LEGEND
NEXT TIME READ 100 CHAPTERS IN ONE GO LOLOL
IT FEELS GOOD TO ME
im proud
good job <3
Yujin is acting like the biggest asshole. Shiwoo is traumatized, he got raped and abused, fucking brainwashed, it's so noticeable And yet all Yujin cares about is the rejection he got from him? Fuck, he's so mean and disrespectful, I want to punch him.
Shiwoo hates himself and genuinely wants Yujin to find happiness with someone elese. xbsjxhsbsyx Trauma is a bitch
I.. didn't even read the whole shit yet, but... The first page triggered me. Ran, Miki and Sue are the fcking shugo charas from amu hinamori (Shugo Chara). AN ANIME I WATCHED WHEN I WAS 12. WHY TF ARE THEIR NAMES RAN, MIKI AND SUE TOO ?! LIKE WTF THIS CAN NOT BE A COINCIDENCE-
BYE
That is so true!!!! I laugh so hard
Maybe the mangaka is a huge fan?! ╮(￣▽￣)╭
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA IKNOW
Ran, Miki, and Sue are 3 girls from an old girl group of the 1970's ^^'
Shuga chara <3 my childhood memories
This comic is one big-ass meme, I can't even-