lowk glad he didnt put it in yet...
PREP UR UKE!! dont tear his hole?!?!? the first time they had sex he didnt do it and i lowk cringe whenever i read a story where they just rawdog it, its not like they can get wet this isnt an omegaverse...LOOSEN HIM UP PLS ur cock is too big...dont hurt ur uke!!!
Can yall just stop reading if you hate the sidecpl so much? Side stories are clearly gonna focus on them now so like... leave.. its so annoying reading all the hate comments here, when im super hyped for a well done yandere trope. I like red flags if you dont thats fine but yall never care abt him being a murderer, you all ever bring up that "hes a rapist" and make this crime worse than the others..
if you cant handle rapist x rapist dont read it..
(yes joon is a rapist too, ch 52 iirc he said he has no right to be mad at dae bc he did the same to others while he worked as an incubus in reference to taking advantage of ppl while asleep before yall come at me again)
RIGHT? I got cooked in the comments a while earlier when I told ppl to stop reading if they cant handle a yandere, and they said "hes not a yandere" like??? also completely shut up after I reminded them joon is just as bad and raped more ppl bc it used to be his job. Like ffs these are DEVILS in literal HELL and ppl whine abt them doing evil shit...
Or they could not.
People will interact with media how they want. If they say they hate it for a certain reason they are 100% allowed to express that opinion.
The same way you are on here expressing your opinion.
Your opinion is not more valuable than theirs and theirs is not more valuable than yours. People are allowed to publicly critique the things you like and you theirs.
there is a stark difference in critiquing and hate reading, as you can see in the comments im getting from ppl going "so u defend rape" which is a fucking braindead take bc we are talking about FICTION which is about DEVILS in HELL so yeah ppl being outraged by devils doing evil things are in fact, very dumb
deadass, these people wanna pick and choose what to be morally right about. they act like him raping joon is worst then him murdering people. BC I KNOW FOR A FACT if he didnt rape joon, no one would give a shit that he killed people. also he MOST DEFINITELY is a yandere!! they want yandere characters with no yandere. dumb asf
THANK YOUUUU BASED TAKE this is so rare to see in this fuckass comment section lmao !!! when i said he was a yandere ppl go "erm i like my yandere as non rapist" like waiter waiter gimme a plate of nothing
and then they go "but we can critique the story!!!" when its not critique but "bruh i hate dae can he fuck off" like ok thats an opinion first of all can we like be deadass abt this??? these ppl annoy me so fucking much, u can see the other replies here where one dumbass literally said rape is worse than murder and like???? bruh both are horrific ...NOT TO MENTION !!!! joon is a rapist too !?!?!?? im going insane he literally said he "cannot be mad at dae bc he used to do the same as incubus, taking advantage of ppl in their sleep" HE ADMITS TO IT but they dont gaf bc they didnt see it as a drawn panel but a speech bubble and they have no media literacy...
when devils in hell do evil things its apparently a pearl clutch moment for these idiots
YESSS!!! im w you 100% !! the comment section is just full of negativity, hate for characters and even to the point they’re harassing the author! these people are fucking stupid, you literally cant reason w them. they basically read the story w their eyes closed bc like u said, joon is also a rapist who assaulted people in their sleep. what the difference between the two? we’re literally talking about non human fictional characters. they really wanna be righteous about characters WHO DONT GAF about morals.
its so so so rare to find a sane person on this site who isnt a moral police for fiction... thank you for your sane comment, you dont know how grateful i am (´°ω°`)
you are so right they possess zero media literacy bro ... always ignore the fact that joon is a rapist too when i bring it up or go "erm when did he say that" and when i cite the chapter they go quiet and stop responding, or just insult me more like..bruh
pleaseee when do they smooooch
why? teens kiss in american TV shows all the time (or even fuck, which i hate seeing) but sex scenes are always so drawn out and whatnot.
Why would there be an issue to see two fictional guys kiss bc they are "in highschool" they dont exist, unlike some actors in TV shows that are forced to kiss old guys on TV screen :/
bro idk why tf ur getting ts so worked up for but its just not okay, alright? if u want to see 2 highschool kids kissing thats on u, and if they're "fictional" guys as u said, js letting u know that this "fictional" guys are underage. "they don't exist" "they're fictional" "don't confuse yourself with fiction nd reality" well bro they are still underage, if I were to make an ai corn bout children kissing and all would u justify it being "just fiction"? if u do ur a fcking creep and if u understand then ok.
I'm not getting mad cause ur asking I'm just upset that u use that excuse to justify what's going on around u.. please don't justify a work of fiction that includes children as device.
Childrens and teens rights are human rights.
Children and teens rights are human rights yes if they EXIST.
Ai porn of children is despicable because Ai cannot create things by itself it uses stuff from an existing database and pictures of real human beings, so the "Ai porn of children" is actual CSAM because it has real victims and real people that are involved in it.
If you draw two dudes that dont look like kids and say their age, it's arbitrary. If the author said they are 500y old without them looking 500y old its fine? It makes no sense.
Fictional characters dont have rights because they dont exist, its not "weird" for wanting to see two fictional characters kiss, esp if they dont even remotely look like children, what are we saying here.
Also to assume my age, is also weird, yk so many ppl who are teens look for stories with other teens in it bc they can relate to it, and its true that teens kiss each other and whatnot all the time, that doesnt make it immoral or are you saying every teen needs to sustain from kissing and more with their bfs/gfs until they are adults and married or someshit what is this backwards thinking.
I wanna see two fictional characters smooch. Its like playing with barbie dolls. Stop with the houler than though attitude and moral policing over fictional content. and stop trying to bring Ai csam into this discussion because its irrelevant and has real victims, real people who are hurt by this despicable thing existing, fictional characters cant say thank you, they dont have rights or feelings or LIFE, they cannot feel, think or do anything as they do not exist.
no this isnt abt my OG comment anymore, you fuckers just piss me off so bad stop replying to my comments if all u say is brain dead bullshit coming in with AI CSAM as argument, you are fucking weird for constantly thinking abt REAL children in sexual context when reading some fuckass BL where none of the characters even remotely looks underage, kys
Everyone wants a yandere top but when we get a yandere top yall whine about him being toxic...what do yall think a yandere is
he is not real? he is a fictional character, there is no real victim its dark fiction. Joon ALSO raped people if you did not realize his line when he said he used to be an incubus and "did the same to ppl so he cant complain" literally smth he said after the rape happened lmao so its rapist x rapist u just didnt see joon rape
Some of yall are fucking stupid and it shows, did u read the story with ur eyes closed?
Joon is ALSO a rapist. He used to be an incubus. He said so himself that "he did the same to people" also THEY ARE DEVILS. what do you think devils are???? What do you think devils do???
Also yandere ARE killers AND rapists every fucking yandere in every anime ever SAs their love interest, yuno kidnapped and kissed yuki and whatnot, while also killing ppl for them like. Just bc this BL shows the rape scene in more detail than a PG16 Anime does, doesnt mean yanderes are just meant to be jealous boyfriend type characters. Yandere are insane toxic killers and rapists. You are idiots when u think otherwise, this is an 18+ story OFC the yandere goes the extra mile for the rape scene.
But yall can ALSOOOO just stop reading if u arent into it, the side stories are about joon x daewoon ??? You are quite literally dumb asf if u cont reading when the main cpl story ended bc you HOPE he ends up with blue hair boss, like OFC HE DOESNT stop being dumb, read smth only to get outraged by and MOVE ON.
AND AGAIN: ITS FICTION i dont fucking CAREEE what a fictional character does in FICTION there is no real victim its a STORY i can tell fiction and reality apart, and if you cant go touch grass and SEEK THERAPY. Im not "defending a rapist" i am defending a character that is FICTIONAL in a FICTIONAL story because they are a STORY DEVICE theY DO NOT EXIST.
Holy shit bro there’s no way you just replied EIGHT fucking times if anything YOU need counseling why tf r u so mad abt peoples opinions over a like you said a fictional story????Lmaoo like there’s no way you’re riding this hard you sound crazy omg. It’s not even that Daewoon is just a rapist, his character is boring and ugly as FAWKKK. Which is why readers are reading to see what happens next. Maybe Daewoon becomes more interesting? Maybe he addresses what he did? Maybe he shows more restraint? Like the side stories just started of course people have opinions jackass. You act like you’re the author or sumn you DONT know what happens next GTFO. You’re acting so entitled to a story you’re reading on an illegal website. The author is not gonna praise u for defending shitty ass Daewoon bro. People r sticking around to see how ts develops, which is totally fine. You keep bringing up “yandere” like we get itttt…holy fuck
you are a whole ass retard, I replied 8 times bc I replied to 8 different comments but as we established reading comprehension isnt your strong suit.
*I* act entitled for reading on an illegal website? You are the one shitting on the sidestories. Also do I have to remind you that you came into MY comment to reply when all I said is I dont get the hate for a yandere archtype?
Like yeah I am "riding him hard" bc I like his character and yall retards are annoying as fuck especially cause you reply to my comment and expect what exactly? To go "oh yeah omg you are right!!" over a subjective opinion???
Find a tree to hang from
Okay but the majority of people don’t. I respect your tastes but respectfully I don’t want the side couple with a FUCKING RAPIST! He barely even paid for this LITERAL CRIME! He just got removed from the human world and got a new job. I’m not forgiving him until he receives proper punishment AND shows more remorse (it’s clear he’s remorseful, but that’s not enough for RAPE), hell, I might not even forgive him if he does all that.
We have no real problem with Daewoo as a character per se, but we have an issue with the author’s portrayal of rape. They’re undermining this very serious issue. I noticed that you replied to another comment saying that “it’s just fiction”. Fiction influences reality. Fiction has driven people to change the way others are treated in society (like African Americans, Immigrants, LGBTQIA+, etc). If a story downplays the serious issue that is rape, it could cause easily influenced or naive people to believe that this isn’t a serious issue WHEN IT IS.
Thats your opinion and thats fair but you can also just stop reading instead of leaving hate comments on the manwha, as if those will make an author continue you know? (And i know im saying this here where the author probably wont see it since we are on mangago lmao but in general its annoying and takes the fun and enjoyment out of fiction when I read smth I like and would love to find likeminded ppl only to see the comments full of ppl hating on it like bruh)
Anyhow fiction does not affect reality in the way you think it does, there have been several scientific studies that will prove you wrong, if fiction shows you should hate lgbtq and you then go and hate lgbtq that is quite literally a you problem. I have never ever seen "problematic fiction" and thought "yeah let me act like that" and i watched family guy, south park and happy tree friends at an age where i was DEF too young to watch it, and I never once thought violence is the answer, never once said or did smth racist and so on. You can have your criticism of the story but the story we are talking about here is a story about DEVILS. Of course Devils will act evil ?? And also Joon is a rapist too (he said he cant be mad at dae bc he was an incubus and "did the same to ppl" ) so like?? Why are we only hating on Dae? Because we have "seen" him rape and not Joon?
its stupid, and if you read this BL and your takeaway is that "yes rape is fine" then thats quite literally a you problem im sorry...?
I like reading dark fiction, I love yanderes and I am happy to finally see a portrayal of a non soft yandere who DOES fucked up things. Yes the rape was fucked up but I liked reading it because it was something new and refreshing to read a top whine and sob while he does it, and I am excited to find out what happens next and how he will act and how they will develope from here on out. In no way shape or form do I think "yeah i will like rape now" irl. Im aromantic asexuel, and i love reading BL and taboo topics because this is the only place (fiction) where i can "experience" all these things in a safe matter bc they are not actually happening and not happening to me - its a way to explore taboo without it ever affecting my irl in any way shape or form.
In an ideal world fiction should be the only place where rape exists actually. And also that being said, Dae also KILLED a lot of people but nobody has a problem with that or calls him a murderer? They only ever call him a rapist. Why ? because in their mind sexual crime is more despicable than murder. And now I am asking you, why are we ranking crimes if both affect reality in your eyes? Why is murder not worse than rape? The argument falls apart here, Im sorry. Because irl the answer is, it isnt and you cant measure how horrific a crime is like that, both are equally horrible irl.
but since this is fiction, I want to enjoy and turn my brain off and just read a good story, that has me hooked, and drama and angst and conflict in fictional settings do just that.
Just saw this comment :D
If you can give me the chapter where he said those words, that would be helpful. Otherwise I’m ignoring that bit for now.
First of all, let’s run through how incubi typically work in media. An incubus is the male version of a succubus (tho some stories ignore this entirely and just call them all succubi). They typically consume sexual energy through dreams or by seducing their target (in media). Although it’s POSSIBLE to gain the energy needed through SA (depending on how the author wants to portray incubi), most stories don’t do it that way. Joon likely seduced his targets with his good looks.
Yanderes are in fact, insane toxic killers, that to which I agree. However, according to Google, a Yandere is a person who has an extreme, psychotic obsession towards their love interests. They are extremely possessive and display unwavering loyalty to the target of their affections. Joon sort of fits this archetype, though I wouldn’t say his love is as extreme. A Yandere does NOT have to be a rapist. They don’t even need to harm their love interests.
While we CAN stop reading if we don’t like the story, it’s valid to complain about something we don’t like. If we were to just ignore every single issue within both stories or reality without vocalizing our opinions, nothing would get change at all. I am going to stop reading this if it makes you feel better ^^
As for your final point, I already addressed it so I’ll jus copy/paste it here
Fiction influences reality. Fiction has driven people to change the way others are treated in society (like African Americans, Immigrants, LGBTQIA+, etc). If a story downplays the serious issue that is rape, it could cause easily influenced or naive people to believe that this isn’t a serious issue WHEN IT IS.
If you see things too many times, you may slowly start to agree/disagree with those things. Yaoi has a HUGE rape problem and while I don’t have to deal with it as much since I tend to avoid stories w rape, it’s still there. We should NEVER just lie down and be complacent about rape, fiction or not.
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Chapter 52 "It was my job to go after people in their sleep" I dont think this implies anything other than SA paired with the Picture that shows "incubus"
Also Incubus and Succubus are latin for Receiving and Giving in that context, it doesnt mean "male sex demon/female sex demon" though its often used like that in fiction and it is simply not true that this is used in a dream setting in porn. Also the entire context its "I cant be mad at Dae because I used to go after ppl in their sleep" - implying he cant be mad at the rape as he did it himself not just to one but multiple, thats why he is so "chill" about it - again they are devils...
And every yandere media I have ever consumed has yanderes in it that go from mild stalking and torture and killing and kidnapping to SA. It is simply not true that "yanderes arent rapists" they usually are, depending on whether or not the media you consume is 18+
And I studied JP popculture at a JP university, I know what I am talking about when I talk about japanese archtypes such as yandere, I had to write several papers about the medium of anime and manga due to my courses I took.
You can complain but it is a bit silly to continue the side stories that are obviously about Joon x Dae and then leave negative comments after every chapter, you can atp really just stop reading, the main cpl is over, and if you dont enjoy stories with rape (which fair you dont have to, who cares) and therefore cant enjoy the character who is now the main subject of said side stories then its quite literally against your enjoyment and therefore silly to cont reading smth that makes you upset to the point of voicing your distain for it in a comment. Why make yourself purposefully upset?? If I hate smth I drop it.
As for my last point I replied to you in my previous comment already but no fiction does not affect reality to that extend, several scientific studies say otherwise that fiction esp taboo fiction can be healthy for humans to consume and is only unhealthy if you are prior dispositioned to confuse reality and fiction. If you read racist media again and again and are so desensitized to it to the point you start agreeing with the media it is a you problem. I watched serveral shows at the age of 10-14 that included racist jokes and whatnot like southpark or family guy etc and never once did I even have a racist thought against other races, because even at 10y old I understood this is fiction and I need to treat people like I want to be treated. If fiction makes you a racist, a rapist or a homophobe then the fiction isnt to blame, you are.
(Also just a disclaimer, I am using "you" as a general "you" not a "you" as in I am speaking to you with all this, I hope that makes sense english isnt my native tongue.)
Either way I wont repat my last point, please look up scientific studies on google scholar about how fiction does not affect reality in the way you think it does.
Calling me fat doesnt make it real, you are projecting so hard its laughable. And yes I defend fiction, it should not be censored, doesnt mean I like every fiction. Imagine someone wants to censor the right of smth to exist bc they dont like it. They did that shit before, thats how we got homophobia and racism you dumb cunt kys.
Always thinking of children in a sexual way when we talk about fiction says way more about you than it does me, you are projecting so hard bc thats the usual thing pedophiles do they act holier than thou to hide their skeletons in the closet. So you are either an adult pedo that is projecting, or actual 12y old and i think either way you are a retard and ill block you now bc theres nothing to discuss with retards like you who are facist and pro censorship bc thats quite literally what facism does, censor. Have fun being brainwashed
I agree, sometimes I wish it stayed niche because now you have ppl always putting their irl morals onto dark fiction for an outrage, like bro im just here to enjoy some fucked up lil guys in my computer screen theres no need for all that moral dickriding and calling me a fatchuddiddler or some shit because I defend the yandere trope that has been here for decades ...I wish more ppl would adhere to fandom etiquette thats "DONT LIKE = DONT READ" instead of throwing a fuss. The sidestories are clearly about Joon x Dae, and they cont to read to be pissed at Dae, completely ignoring the fact Joon is also a rapist lmao
THIS LIKE holy shit. this is why when some character from a more classic bl media blows up online (re: aoba dmmd) i'm just side eyeing bc like what yaoi jesus ? oh, well yeah considering y'all probably Will crucify him if you actually find out what happens in dmmd or any nc+ blvn... these people can't even enjoy interesting character writing and situations bc they're too busy clutching their pearls. well, i hope it stays that way, genuinely so annoying when they force their way in here and then annoy the rest of us who actually want to be here.
AAAAA THIS!! you are so right, its so refreshing to see someone with a brain in here, I left a comment on another manhwa saying "when do they smooch" and both look like adults but are in HS (they ar elike 17 or 18 even) and i get bombarded with "erm they are kids" GIRL why are they here they arent even looking like some damn kids and when they magically turn 18+ they will still be drawn the same. Why are people so weird nowadays man this stupid moral policing on fiction is driving me insane









was it ever explained how he got a womb btw????
No
Edwin's magical snake cum so strong it altered his body or something for the sake of reproduction (trust)
yk what, i believe it
I wish I could like this comment
So tame of you to assume it was... just the cum...
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