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You can say it all aloud. This place was so peaceful and friendly. （￣へ￣）

We had a few ugly conversations here in the past. It happens from time to time but I guess the closer to the end we'll get, the more negativity will come and one way or another it'll end up with a sh-storm from one side.

But thosd were really few compared to now. Oo

There was a very ugly one once. It didn't last long but I think it was worse than now.

Ok. Probably I don't remember that.

this one is worse.

I for one missed the previous ones, so I'm glad I got on board right on time

Whenever a crazy Seju or Sungji fan strikes it gets ugly sooner or later (≧∀≦) Although the majority of crazy fans is on Seju's side.

I was surprised at how peaceful it was. Love triangle stories usually aren't. Maybe cause this is reaching the end people getting heated. I admit I got heated in the past over other series.

I was about to leave, but it seems I should stay.

Sooner or later the peace will come back.


Better sooner.^^'

it already did. for now. possibly until the next chapter comes out. and when that happens... oh boy... #－.－)

Yeah. (⊙…⊙ )(⊙…⊙ )(⊙…⊙ )

Then I leave. ヾ(❀╹◡╹)ﾉ~

I'm not a "crazy Sungji fan" though, I'm more of a "crazy Seju hater". Yes Sungji is super super bae, but my hate for Seju has nothing to do with romance or shipping. Cause it was quite clear from the beginning Seju was never going to be end game, so no need to bother with 'shipping wars'. So my loathe for pinky runs solo on it's own, brought by her own acts, nothing else. I hate her, Just.The.Way.She.Is. I would hate her even if she moves out, I would hate her even if she moves on. I hate her cause she's a......wait for it, here it comes, B*TCH..to say the least. The very very least.

I don't hate her, but I do hate her. Complicated, I know. I don't see her as evil, but manipulative and toxic. If she can change - great. If not - shame. I want her to find happiness - it's not her fault she was born in such bad family. But I don't want it to be with Sumin. Their relationship turned into the abusive and toxic one. If they end up together it'll mean the author supports this kind of relationship and I'll lose all of my respect for her. Sungji may not be an interesting character but she's good for Sumin. Her love is pure and warm. She brought the old Sumin (the one from before her parents death) back. It's something Seju was unable to achieve because she chose to cheat on Sumin instead of comfort her through her mourning. Sungji was the very first person who gave Sumin this comfort. Something she so desperately needed 10 years ago. It's no wonder Sumin fell asleep in Sungji's arms that evening - for the first time in 10 years she felt truly safe.

No, please, stay. ^_^

(⊙…⊙ ) Too late! I have already packed up my things. ( ￣□￣||) Then I will leave this disposable shoe of mine here so that you could find me one day. ヾ(☆▽☆)

Ok. (≧∀≦)

Ahem. I would have go disagree with you on the notion that Sungji is an "uninteresting character", cause that right there is just ridiculous. She has shown to be the most mature and the most straightforward of the 3. By far, even though she is by far the youngest. Yeah sure, she may not be manipulative and bitchy like "some", but she has shown time again and again that she is really is the "It Girl" in this bitch. Mature far beyond her childishness, strong far beyond her appearance, decisive far beyond her inexperience and nottier(in bed) far beyond her innocence(lol). Best waifu right there. Well done Sumin you old hag, well done.

( In the meanwhile while some are struggling to grow the hell up)

The problem I have with Sungji is that we don't really know her. Manhwa was focused on Sumin 1st, Seju 2nd and Sungji can't be even called a 3rd. Her past is completely unknown. What she likes is unknown. I wish the author focused more on her... too late now.

Lol. You are kidding me. This has been the Sumin×Sungji show from the very first chapter. If you failed to even see that then we aren't reading the same manhwa or you're just another anonymous seju fan with their own twisted version of wdtfs in their heads. Infact, she was the VERY first character we were introduced to, and never once has she deviated from the story. It's actually your precious 2nd-chan who has had the minimal onscreen time, no doubt about it. She has by far and far just been the third wheel, the drug as I like to call her and most of her onscreen time in the first 30 chapters or so where usually just in flash backs or porno. I know this cause I've just been rereading this. About her past, you make it sound as if she should have a f*cked up drama filled teenhood for it to be considered a proper "past". She didn't need a sorrow filled past cause she's supposed to represent the present and the future for Sumin. Seju was the past, but Sungji has been the present and to deny that is to imply we spent a 2ndth of the time on the past and flashbacks. So please, go reread this like I have been before making fake stats about character "focus" and accusing the author of character neglect.

Guys, calm down. it has been daaaaays already

I for one, have enough b*tch-hate chakra to last even more days

Lol, I'm team blonde but i wish to know more about Sungji. What we were given is nothing compared to what we know about Sumin and Seju. You may disagree and it's ok but don't say everyone from our team must agree with you. Sungji may represent the future but the truth is Sumin isn't really taking to her about herself. She's keeping secrets which we know thanks to the story but Sungji knows nothing. And she's not trying to know. It's weird to me. No one can be this perfect... I'd like to know why she is like that. If she ever was in a relationship before. And I'll never find out because the story is ending in 3 chapters. This, for me as a team blonde, is a shame.

Ah. Anonymous "team blonde" fan with a blondie 'complain'.

Just how far are you? I'm really curious. What secrets is she keeping? And how could you not know that for Sungji, Sumin is her first. You clearly haven't read far ahead, or have just straightout been ignoring her character to say the least. I wonder why, mr "team blonde". And yes, someone can be this pure and "perfect", that someone is Sungji. That miserable she-devil never stood a chance, blondie took her by surprise.

I've read the entire story twice.
Secrets:
1 the story behind her tattoo (Sungji has no idea Seju's brother kidnapped and scarred her she has no idea Sumin even has scars undeneeth this tattoo)
2 Seju cheating
3 why Seju can't go to the police
4 Seju's father's offer for her to go to the USA which btw she didn't give back to him (she still has the documents he gave her)

I agree Sungji is strong and faced Seju perfectly well (this shock on pinky's face is always priceless) but I wish for her to REALLY know Sumin. And I wish to REALLY know her too - why is she like this, what did she went through, what made her the person she is today. I want to know her story, is it bad? I'm mainly Sumin fan and I was able to know her, learn things about her. Something I've had with Sungji only twice:
1 her brother pretty much raised her
2 her first crush was Dawoon

"Doctor" won't understand your reasons thanks to the 2 or 3 neurons left after these days of intense brainstorming and Seju#is#bitch thing.

There's something silly about arguing with ananymous people. Cause you don't know if your even talking to the same person, but oh well I guess it can't be helped.

First of all, her first love is Sumin. 'You' asked wether she had been in a relationship before, so the answer is No. Sumin is her first, like I said. 1 2 3 4 is all related to Seju, I personally don't think it matters if she tells her or not, cause it's really unnecessary for her to tell her about aaaall the crazy sh*t and crazy people she's gone through, and it's more than just "1 2 3 4". During their first trip, the crazy red appeared and drove Sumin mad and she ended up telling Sungji that she didn't want to spend another second in the same hotel. She asked about her, and Sumin told her it's someone she should "never have to know", Sungji told her she will not ask her about it then, that she will "hold it in". She's very aware that Sumin has had a troubled past, but she chose to "hold it in" and won't ask questions about it. Sumin has had a lot of messed up relationships in the PAST which ended badly, and her's and Seju is just one them. She knows that she has had a troubled past, a past that made her someone who was "always ready to leave her". But Sungji chose not to ask "so who have you slept with", and I don't see any reason why she should.

I'm not sure what your second "REALLY" is actually REALLY about. So I can't answer, "mainly sumin fan".

I'm actually tired if talking about Sungji. I prefer the #SejuIsBitch thing. It's why I even bothered coming here. Aaah, the good times.

Sumin is her first LOVER. Sungji could've been in a relationship(s) before, she just didn't have sex. And there're hints for her to be in a relationship before. Especially the one where she says people who ever liked her had left. Since her family is alive and well I'd say it's about her past relationship(s). She also had many people who confesseed to her.

It's necessary for Sungji to know things about Sumin and yet, she knows nothing. What Sumin went through is crucial to who she is now, why she was trying to seduce Sungji on her parents' death anniversary, why she's tired so often (and not, it's not due to physical activities, she's emotionally tired due to the years of not being able to relax for too long combined with depression, that's why she enjoys comfort and simple hugs so much). Remember when Sungji told her she'd like to engrave her mark on her? It wasn't good wording choice because of what Seju's brother did to her - he literally marked her. Sungji's words could've brought bad memories back, good thing nothing like a bad flashback happened... They didn't even talk about the ring and Sumin thinks Seju took it when it's only half true.

It's also important for Sumin to know things about Sungji and yet, she knows nothing except she's treated like a kid by her brother and sister in-law. Sumin wasn't even sure if Sungji loves her until chapter 81 when Sungji told her that in a very accurate moment this time (previous was more like a joke and happened before she found Seju on top of Sumin). Sungji knows a little bit about the situation Seju is in but she has no idea WHY Seju is there, why can't she go to the police and why Sumin picked her over Sungji when Seju called and said she's ready to go back home. Good thing Sungji saw Sumin was frustrated over it but it doesn't change the fact she took a day off to spend it with Sumin and it didn't work at all. We know Seju would've come back home by herself if Sumin didn't pick her and there's an assassin just waiting for her to do so but Sungji has no idea about it so from her point of view it's like Seju might still be a number 1 in Sumin's life. I can bet the next chapter will be cruicial for their relationship - she's coming over, Seju went out angry, what will Sumin do? Go after Seju or stay and worry about her? It's the perfect oppoturnity for Sungji to finally act, tell Sumin they should go after her and ask Sumin what's really going on. I want to see her taking the lead, wanting to know things and sharing her own too. What she feels, what does she want from life and their relationship, how does she see their future.

I'm teamblonde but not going to say we will win for sure because it's a damn k-drama and bad ending can still be pulled out of the ass even if it makes no sense at all. I wish it won't happen because if it does, it'll be the worst manhwa/manga ending I've ever faced and screw the logical part here - toxicity and abuse are things I'll never ever support.

I really don't like writing or reading essays unless it's related to my #SejuIsB*tch campaign.

About Sungji, actually, Sumin is her first lover and first love. We saw this in the beginning cause it was her friends from earlier who were tellings her about the ideal 'symptoms' of someone in love. How they would be thinking for example about what that person is thinking and how they would always be on their mind. Then Sungji said she has someone like that, and it has been like that from the very start and that's when they told that that's what's called love at first sight.

Daewoon, was not Sunji's first crush. It was completely one-sided on Daewoon's side. Even Daewoon acknowledge it, that Sungji had never liked anyone before, but now it was not the case when she asked her to go out with her for a week. When Seju said the people who have liked her in the past left, she was simply talking about all the people in the past who had confessed to her. She was tellin this to Namei, cause Namei had feelings for Sumin as Sungji pointed out, but she was left wondering how she could have feeling for her and still stay close to her cause everyone who had feelings for her in the past, left. This was also referencing to the earlier chapter when we saw many different people confessing to her, but they all left after she rejected them. Even Daewoon ended up leaving. So yes, Sumin is Sungji's first everything, not just sex.

About Sumin, it's quite clear you like her. And I'm glad that's the case, cause there are many people who tend to overlook her cause we're either too focused on #TeamBlonde, #TeamPink or #TeamHatePink(yours trully). So this is actually nice. But, I can't help but feel like you are blowing things a bit out of proportion. First of all, she know more about her than that she's treated as kid, infact she doesn't even think that that's the case but that they simply just love her. And the fact that Sungji's wording when she said she want s to scar her was poor, it wasn't, it was honest. She asked if it's because she's greedy and Sumin told her it's more lust than greed. No signs of memory trauma appearing anywhere. Also, it was not until chapter 81 that she told Sungji she loves her post their break up, it's actually in that same place when she told her that she loves her and that from now on she will never leave her side.

And yes, Sungji may not know the exact details of WHY as you put it, Seju's there. But really now, why would she be need to know the personal details of Seju's house hold. But she knows enough. She even suggested that Seju can just get herself a body guard who looks like Sumin since apparently there are a lot of those faces around. She knows her life is in danger, she knows why Sumin was chosen for Seju's protection and why Sumin couldn't refuse. Cause she is aware that Sumin likes her as she told her herself, and that the ties between them can not easily be cut as she puts it herself.

And about her leaving to go pick up Seju, no, it doesn't look to Sungji like Seju is No 1 to Sumin from her assumed perspective. She knew what she was agreeing to when she let her stay. The reason why Sumin had to leave is because she told Seju that out of working hours, she stays in the same room as her. So once Seju leaves work, ONLY sumin has to pick her up cause no one should because of the circumstances, which Sungji understands even though reasonably doesn't like. She was mad for her distrupting their, magic moment, understandably, but in the end she was just mad later on cause she was horny af at night and she blamed Sumin for not finishing her job. No inferior complex drama as you've put it.

Knowing and understanding each other is crucial for the relationship to last. So far, Sungji and Sumin understand each other (mostly) but they don't really know each other. Tell me what Sungji knows about Sumin and vice versa?
Sungji on Sumin - she's 34 years old, she was her team manager, Seju is her 1st love, her parents are dead, she has an extremely weak tolerance of alcohol.
Sumin on Sungji - she's 24 years old, living with her brother and his wife, feels like they treat her like a kid ever since her sister in-law had lost her baby (and this is what Sungji thinks).
What Sungji doesn't know:
- Seju owns Sumin's house and her staying there is to get that house back
- Sumin has scars and that's why she has this tattoo (which is riddiculous because you can cover the scars but you still will be able to feel them with your fingertips)
- Sumin was offered to leave the country and hasn't really decided yet
- the ring and cheating - Sumin was in her shoes once and she feels insecure about Sungji leaving because it's what she's done with Seju
What Sumin doesn't know:
- the ring - Sungji left it at Seju's house after she took her there because Seju was sick
- everything we don't know... because all we know Sumin knows too. You can't even try to compare what we know about at least Seju (the most we know is about Sumin because she's the very main protagonist) who's still quite an enigma.
What's weird to me is that Sungji is accepting all those bribes. Just who does that and why? I doubt it's one of the guys, it has to be either a new team manager or Seju herself. Sumin, of course, has no idea about it.
Dawoon was, in fact, Sungji's first crush.
Just because Sungji wasn't good at love and understanding relationships (she's still not tbh) doesn't mean she wasn't in any relationship before, you're reaching here.
Sungji isn't even staying with Sumin at night since Seju moved in. She did that only once and never again.
And don't tell me I'm teampink or something like that because I'm not. I focused my reading on all 3 characters, I don't hate any of them.

Before proceeding, thanks for not starting with "I'm team blonde...but" but just straightout said what you wanted to say.

I understand, it's important for couples to know each other. But is it that important to knooow, about each other. Like, about the names of everyone I've slept with. Just because we've seen many girls Sumin has slept with to me doesn't mean Sungji should know the details of them aswell. Though she wants to know, she decided that Sumin can keep the secrets she wants to keep as she once told her. Sumin has already told her that she has had a piled up past and has had a lot of experience and that is why she is afraid if she can't even love anymore and has just been hurting her all along when she went to Sungji and had sex with her for the first time. And also, what really is there to know about Sungji's past since she was a pretty much an inexperienced honest open book. It has been Sumin who had been experienced, not honest(as Sungji pointed out when they first went to that park together early on) and an "empty shell" at beginning. So please, this obsession with Sungji havin a more dramatic back ground is unnecessary imo.

"What Sungji doesn't know:"
-Actually she does know that Seju owns that house. Wow!!!. She just "let her keep the secrets she wants to keep". Seju herself told Sungji when she had Sumin sleeping in her lap and this was shown as a flashback after the cheating, that Sungji knew about it all along. Seju told her that the house, the car and everything else she bought it for her. And when they got bored they've had sex everywhere as she was nice enough to even point at the places.
- Sungji knows that Sumin has scars...shocking huh. Sungji is a very perceptive person, something even Namei pointed out though I know this one she should have noticed it much earlier. She noticed the scars after they got back together again at her place the day they got caught. Sumin told her that it was not her first time seeing it, so why was she starring so hard and Sungji told her she was shaking more than the first time they had sex. So yes, she definitely saw it.
- I for one, think Seju stole the ring but Sungji must have just let it be wondering what she wanted to do with it cause I don't think it's something Sungji can easily forget knowing her. So when Sumin told her that she stole it, for me that was exactly what I had been suspecting all along. She even replaced the bandage that Sungji put on her finger after they slept together, but Sumin put it back on and that's why it was messy the next day. But I could be wrong here, but until then...
- Well if she wants to leave the country, I'm sure she will bring it up.
- Like I said, there's not much background sad drama to know about Sungji, innocent inexperienced airhead. So inexperienced she thought the first time Sumin pinned her down in her bed Sumin was trying to kiss her.

I think the 'bribes' your talking about is just the cake Seju bought her after they went out to eat.

And agaaain, NO, Daewoon was NOT Sungji's first crush. It was never mentioned anywhere that she had feelings for her. It was one sided on Daewoon's side and that was their story. You'll have to reread their little arc to believe me cause I have already stated my very very solid reasons.

@difan. Well since you haven't answered, I would like to add something else on the scars. When Sumin told Sungji that "It's not your first time seeing it, so why are you starring so hard" I think she is saying that she knows that Sungji had always seen the scars not just the tattoo as I first thought, and so why was she starring so hard as if she has just seen it for the first time. I think for me this version makes more sense. The first version sounded as if she was being agressive and defensive like that time when getting asked by one of her flings about it and she just got mad and told her to shut up. Here she was aware and appeared vulnerable, and in that scene she was even shaking. And also because as I've told you before, Sungji is very perceptive. So perceptive even Namei who is soooo perceptive everything she says here is yuri gospel was caught by surprise. So I believe Sungji had always known, but didn't ask about it as she said she will do. But let her keep the secrets she wants to keep, as we all do.

And thanks for having a name. Helps having this long type back and forth conversations with people you can at least identify.

This is because some of the pips here are having tiny minds. Not open to other's opinion. ╮(￣▽￣)╭

I feel yah.. Hahahah (๑•ㅂ•)و✧

Me.. I'll go to some corner just to enjoy and cherish minutes of reading this kind of sexy scene. :)

Hahaha you are so brave!!! I cant do that in public because i need to concentrate really well in the most important partsლ(´ڡ`ლ)

you just made my evening...

Hahaha so funny but i can feel ya bcos i do read in the public sometimes too..

I know rightt, I thought it was real but it was actually just a dream :(

Oh noo... my Seju ╥﹏╥ ╥﹏╥

She deserves it, after what she did to Sumin for then fucking years.

Ahh, of course, she deserves to be tormented forever because of the immature decisions she made, how dare she not be a perfect person.

Now don't get me wrong, I'm not defending her decisions but give the chick a break.