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Last chapter I said I found the scenario boring and cliché. And here I thought they were just going to finish the side story of Chowon & Beta on a happy ending after sex in bed, but no...surprise there's a twist with the dark past of Chowon leaked. I have to admit I didn't expect it, the second part of this scenario promises to be very interesting. I'm once again excited about this side story. <3
With Jinks, nothing is coherent, the whole scenario is very poorly constructed, there's no real meaninful progression in the story.
The first few chapters are all sex scenes (or should I say all rape scenes) and there's almost no emotional development (good or bad). Then, towards the last few chapters, there's a sudden break in the sex scenes and we're we have a whole bunch of pointless adventures to supposedly progress the story, but which in reality look more like an "oops, I only drew sex for the first 40 chapters and now it's almost the end of the season and the story is going nowhere, so we stop the sex for a while and put in lots of vague exposition because we didn't do it at the beginning and in a progressive way" from the author.
Finally, I'd say that what I find even more annoying than the poor quality of the story is readers who say "if you criticize Jinks it's because you're a haters, just enjoy the story". And my answer is that if so many people are complaining about the story and the characters, it's not for no reason, there must be a problem. Of course, there are always haters who criticize without foundation. But here, the readers have clearly expressed valid negative points. Seriously, there wasn't a chapter where the overwhelming majority of people didn't point out the story's flaws.
I don't remember if there were that many bad comments about BJ Alex, but frankly I have fond memories of it and even reread the entire story twice.
In short, Jinks season 1 clearly has major flaws and is sorely lacking in quality writing. The author's drawing style, on the other hand, has really improved and is visually stunning.
I hope season 2 will be better.
I highly disagree. Those scenes you called pointless and zero-progression needed to happen. It's a leading way for season 2. Secondly, I don't even know why y'all are even expecting a masterpiece story. Jinx might not be the best but it definitely isn't bad writing.
You come up with things as if you know the full story.
But yk what the point is, hate does not equal criticism. Many go around bashing the author and readers who like this and you call that criticism??
The truth is y'all just want to see a simple romance with two men in love where there's all sunshine and rainbows. You are angry the story isn't going your way. The fact that there's no romance tag in the or!g!nal s!te is even shaming your opinion. What plot exactly are y'all talking about? Because so far in my eyes, mingwa has done okay with how she has progressed her own story.
What are you talking about? Girl please.
People have the right to dislike this story. You like it? Good. Congratulations. Others don't. It's called having different tastes.
Also all the other criticism that you label as "hate" is valid.
"Because so far in my eyes, mingwa has done okay with how she has progressed her own story" wonderful. I'm happy you like it. That doesn't mean others should. Again. Different tastes. That fact that you don't see any issues with the way the story is progressing doesn't mean everyone should be the same.
A lot of people are tired of the whole "toxic/r*pist/absuive" Top. It's a trope that has been ingrained in the yaoi genre for decades and and people have the right to be done with it.
Also, no, it's not that people "want to see a simple romance with two men in love where there's all sunshine and rainbows", people are just done with SA/abuse being romanticized and fetishized in yaoi. And don't even try to say it's not the case here. It is. Dan is clearly forced. Having to have sex in order to pay for your grandma's treatment is not consent. And of course the author makes it so he grows to enjoy the abusive moments because it wouldn't be so romantic if he hates throughout all the story, right? It's always what happens in these type of stories, the "uke" hates it a first, then grows to have feeling for his abuser who ends up having "a character development" that somehow erases all the abuse he caused and then we have a happy ending...yeah, no.
I'm gonna stop here. Anyways. No shame if you enjoy the story, it's fictional. No hate for the fans for liking this either. But for the love of God, let people have opinions, negative or positive opinions.
That's the point you don't get. You can dislike a story but don't shame others and the author, that's pure HATE. No criticism there. Eat some grass, please.
And just because the story isn't your taste doesn't mean it's BAD WRITING. I also definitely agree with how authors romanticize abuse but that's not my point here, it's degrading the way you just suddenly brought that up.
Dan wasn't entirely forced, he saw a better option and he took it. Just because he had no choice doesn't mean it's JK’s fault. Jk saw an opportunity and he took it. Dan prostituted himself to save himself. What other option would you prefer the man do? You say he's forced but brother requested more cash be added to his salary. Dan lacks self-respect, he sees JK’s abuse as a discipline to work harder which is sad btw. I'm just here to see how the story unfolds. I'm curious to see how they both realize their mistakes and work on themselves.
What are you doing? Hate-reading? Sad. And you claim the criticism is valid? What criticism? Where?? More like HATE spreading everywhere. Season 1 end and y'all haters are still sticking around. Y'all claim the story is shit but aren't you the SHIT for still reading despite the fact you hate it? Please.
Girl I never shamed anyone for liking the story like, it's YOU who doesn't get my point. I literally said that people have the right to dislike and criticize. Just like I said that it is completely fine if people like it and enjoy it. But it's public. If you're going to publish something to be viewed by the public, you're going to get criticism.
I think it's you who has a problem with this fact. The fact that the opinion is negative doesn't mean it's hate. That's the most immature and absurd thing ever. Although I do agree that some are taking it way too far and even go to the point of harassing the author which, I am totally against btw. But equating criticism to hate is just stupid and just proves that you are not capable of thinking objectively about your favorite works.
A lot of the criticism (yes, CRITICISM, not hate) that I have seen makes sense and is understandable, and not just some empty words and excuses to hate on the author/ work.
"you claim the criticism is valid? What criticism? Where??" Well if you have functioning eyes, you would see it. But sadly, you see anything that doesn't praise the story or go along your own pov as hate, so ofc you wouldn't see nor understand the validity of those "hateful" comments.
Anyways, morale of the story: everyone is entitled to their own opinions, negative or positive. Let's not hate on those who like it and Let's not hate on those who don't.
Maybe you didn’t read my comment well? but okay.
How so?
We're saying the same thing.
Criticism can come in all forms and it can be expressed without bashing(insulting, lying, death threats, etc) the author and the readers for liking the story. The moment you bash the author and others, that's when it's hate bc then, their intentions are no longer to criticize what they've read but only to hurt people. Majority of these comments are HATE. Many have admitted to a spreading Hate purposely for the drama and entertainment. The critiques are rare. Most people have complained about wanting to see more comments about the story not hate.
I have no problem with the criticism at all. But when it's turned into hate is when I have a problem. That's why I said we’re saying the same thing but you might misunderstood.
It is true that a lot hate just for the purpose of hating. But I've also seen a lot of understandable critiques, like the first comment here. Sadly a lot of the readers are young and think it makes them cool or edgy to send hate.
But yeah, we "seem" to agree on the same thing. Although the first girl who commented wasn't hating. She expressed her opinion and she was polite with it. No hate. He explained her arguments in a logical and poised manner. And yet you went on her and started talking about how people are just hating blabla (and you included her in the "y'all") without even taking the time to understand her position.
That's why I responded to YOU. You say criticism doesn't equal hate yet your response to her shows the complete opposite. Maybe you should re-read both her comment and yours.
Btw I said "girl" speaking of both commentaters on top but it could've been guys or other. So sorry to them if I assumed anything, the only people I've talked to on this website are girls lol.
How exactly did I respond to the OP? Because I was also sharing my opinion on the matter. You can see that the first thing I said was that I disagree, simply looking forward to a conversation about it being badly written. I also wanted to be clear on the issue of Criticism and Hate that's why I used ‘Yall’. I wanted to mention how people overlook the hate and think it's criticism when it's not. It was just an appeal to deepen the conversation but I guess I caught your attention.
Maybe I should've been more specific to who I was referring to.
What do you mean "how did i respond to the op?" Because it's her comment that you've responded to...? Like, you respoded to her and wrote under her comment, ANYONE who read your comment would assume you included her in your "y'all" speech because you did which would contradict anything you've said until now.
People are not mind readers, if you respond to someone's comment the way you did, people are going to assume...you responded to them.
Maybe word your thoughts better next time. "You come up with things as if you know the full story". Ofc I am going to assume you meant op when you said "you", logically.
"how exactly did i respond to the op?"
You claimed that I responded in a bad way to the op and now I’m asking you to tell me how so? I didn’t ‘mean’ to include her, I was speaking on a general note.
"You come up with things as if you know the full story".
When I said this, I was referring to what the op said here :
“there's a sudden break in the sex scenes and we're we have a whole bunch of pointless adventures to supposedly progress the story, but which in reality look more like an "oops, I only drew sex for the first 40 chapters and now it's almost the end of the season and the story is going nowhere, so we stop the sex for a while and put in lots of vague exposition because we didn't do it at the beginning and in a progressive way" from the author.”
This conversation should come to an end please. I already stated I was talking on a general note.
I didn't claim you responded in "a bad way", I said you responded to them because you said you didn't when you clearly did. You might have been referring to people in general but it didn't seem like it, and that's what I was trying to tell you. As I said, people are not mind readers, if you're going to use "you" type-of-speech under someone's comment, people will assume you responded to them. And that's literally it.
"This conversation should come to an end please. I already stated I was talking on a general note" that's the case when both parties come to a understanding, which is why I explained what I meant again.
Now this conversation can end, on a positive note I hope, because I sure did enjoy this conversation. (You rarely have civil exchanges that don't end up in blatant insults in these comment sections