I love Yaejin but I hope he tells her no. She completely dropped all communication with him and probably would have continued to never speak again if they hadn't run into each other and now she wants to use him to dump her emotional problems? That's kinda messed up.
I don't care what a parent has going on mentally. I don't care that she can't control it. Abuse is abuse and there ain't an excuse. Take your kid to a day care or have a relative babysit or hire a babysitter. Whatever you have to do. Taking your problems out on a child ain't it though.
Is that what you're gonna say to someone who has ADHD? Depression? Sucidal Behaviour?
That and postpartum depression are in the same category, they're not normal mentally which can result in extreme behaviour.
If there's anyone to blame, it's the husband and her closest family/friends for not realizing what happened and only realized it after it's going too far.
You think you can say "Find something fun to do so you won't get depressed" will solved the problem?
Gosh, how clueless you are yet you're making such a bold statement (︶︿︶)
Are you someone who also says that a clinically depressed person is faking it? Or they should just quit pretending to be emo? Or just some random statement which shows mental health is not a disease we should cure coz mental health is not a thing?
If not then please read your statement again and please think what you have just written...
If you support someone who is depressed, including yourself, please be easy on that person ...
Her only fault is to not ask for help...and that too might be because of the stigma...just like in your statement...let's not forget that sometimes it takes two people to raise a child...
Thank you for knowing this.
Thank you for knowing THIS
I was about to explain you the whole stuff but goddess already did it!! So yeahhh suck it ╮(￣▽￣)╭
You're making a whole lot of assumptions about me. You'll never know what I've been through or who I am as a person or what I truly think about mental disabilities. I don't have to justify myself to you or make excuses or explain anything. I could make the assumption that you are okay with the abuse of a child as long as the parent has mental disabilities. That child probably wouldn't agree when they're older I think though. I stand by what I said I don't care. If you're triggered by that then go off. I still sleep good at night knowing a stranger on the internet hates me without knowing me
.... comprehensive skills are low in this one....look I am making assumptions coz I don't know you and if you had read what I had written....which you obviously didn't..you would know I am not saying that you are a person of that kind...but to look at what you had written and read it with keeping in mind the scenario I gave...what I wrote in the beginning were open ended questions which most of the times people say they don't do....I did asume that you might not be mentally healthy(depressed) hence said that you yourself including shouldn't be so hard on your self...
As far as parent and child matters remain...of course in this story when ichika grows older he would question why they divorced and why his mom completely blanked up on him....but that is resolved in time by giving him a loving family....which he would have because naruse not only learnt from his mistake he also learnt that it is ok to take help....Life is not white and black...the mother and naruse both stand in grey...
You seem to be unable to see how much a person changes because of hormones....these are not just for show...they actually astronomically affect our mental health....weather we want it to or not....
Drinking and other kind of substance abuse is also considered as mental health instability.....these are different from this. Imagine a scenario where a woman hits Alzheimer's early with same age of the child she keeps shouting at the kid coz she doesn't remember giving birth to it and doesn't acknowledge this child as her's....this lady is also mentally unhealthy....do you consider this to be mother's fault? Because it is abuse to wards the child
Also I do hope you sleep well...I would never want this kind of debate to get in the way of your sleep....being rigid in thoughts sometimes shows weakness in mental fortitude...I hope you can keep a more flexible mind in future....life is too long to let something bother your mind from being free...don't forget sometimes the situations we dread or hate are the once we inevitably end up in...(づ￣ ³￣)づ
How nice of you to basically call me stupid by saying my comprehensive skills are low. Don't explain that. There's nothing else to say. You're saying life is not black and white but you said the husband should be blamed as if he's the only problem. You are also assuming that just because the family situation is fixed in the future that the abuse of the past shouldn't matter. It does matter. People do not just get over that. You are saying that I'm narrow-minded but it sounds to me like you are as well. I never said it was the mother's fault alone. They both should have done better but only one parent is abusing a child. I said I don't care what she's going through. I don't care if it's the fault of a mental disability. If someone is incapable of taking care of a child then the child needs to be in the care of someone who can.
Ho ho ho...I thought you would be sleeping...guess you did loose sleep over it ╮(￣▽￣)╭
Yes this time you got my point but I guess you only get the insults... absolutely wonderful filter...
Anyway...I never in my narrative said that abuse is ok or that it will just vanish somewhere...here the thing is such things can't be decide properly, it varies for individuals... councelling can help and so does a loving family...in cases like these the child has abandonment issues and also can question self worth...those are the feelings that would be worked upon in therapy....even without one...just having someone to talk to you and understand you is a major improvement. Support is very important..not only for the child but also to avoid any future cases of postpartum depression...it is messy I guess you got how it can be by us going back and forth...
In future you see anyone around you struggling or even yourself....please ask for help or keep help ready...I guess that is the only fault of that woman to not be able to ask for help on time and by the time things were barely under her control she lost it....
Aside from that both parents are responsible for making and growing that child...as an adult who was around an abuser as you have dubbed her...he should have done something...but he also didn't understand the situation...he too was unprepared for this...he too was a father for first time and his family was not the model family either..please read I wrote both parents are responsible... negligence is also a for of abuse (I am sure you know...you seem to know what is abusive..which is great...most people don't)
Oh also...noone can have a very open mind...I can't digest incest easily...but I still keep a flexible mind around it that if someone says they are into it I won't flinch visibly....the key is flexibility of mind...not open mindedness...lol...I think you assumed I was using it as synonyms but I am not....you can't open your mind to everything coz preference boundaries and experiences... but to not out right reject it is what is flexibility. It's like with food... pineapple pizza is gross...my opinion but I won't verbally abuse someone just for liking it...
I haven't went to sleep yet it's the same day. Chill.
I got your point after insulting me? I never said I got your point though? You insulted me because you apparently can't have a discussion without doing so. That's not productive and in the future I would suggest you not to do that so people can take what you say seriously.
You also just basically restated my point that she should have asked for some form of help.
We both know and understand what we are discussing here so why does it matter if we call it having an open mind or a flexible one? We both understand what we are trying to get at/trying to say. You are deflecting. Manipulating the conversation to prove your point.
You are out right rejecting my point of view so you aren't that flexible. You apparently agree she should have reached out for help. Why didn't you just say I agree with that part but disagree with the fact that it is something she could have controlled. Without being insulting.
We are allowed to have a difference of opinion and we are having such a discussion about that disagreement but you are too focused on putting me in my place. Learn to have a discussion rather than being angry first and jumping to conclusions and trying to make someone feel lower than you.
But didn't it finally make you write like a sensible person...you didn't seem to care before but now you do...you finally started reading my messages (=・ω・=) but you know what is fun? I had paragragh long worth to say and definately got some of my point across...just because I motivated and baited you by 'putting you in you place'? It took me so long to coax you to this point...just like how you explain a child I had to put out point to point for you to connect....you do make some wrong connections...but it's ok you did a great job reaching here
Ya I do think that communication could have solved or at least lowered her frustration...but I also think that she had her reason for not going and asking for help as well...
Mental health is not the best tea topic in most places and Japan is no better and just like you said in your previous posts how the fuck a woman not know how to mother? That kind of proper division when it comes to housework and outside work being divided between man and woman would not work always....it didn't work here....
Naruse was totally focused on the outside when the inside of the house was going mess...not that he had expected or been trained to handle it....
And well neither was she...not the depression at least...I am pretty sure that they don't consider postpartum depression anything major...but can't say for sure...
The fact that non of the parents or grandparents were even there to relieve her from the baby duty for sometime is also weird? Shouldn't the parents also offer firsthand....I am fairly convinced that it's a regular practice around the world....
Also flexible and open mindedness....I didn't flinch away from it I discussed it with you so now I kinda see that you are firm on the fact that mom is the villain...and this is the point where I say everyone has preference or viewpoints....I don't really know what you have been through...but after dragging this out with you I got a little insight...and that is enough...because no matter what it is...we both know this is a fiction and while it depicts what happens a lot in real life...we still don't have the full story
Aside from all of that I did manipulate you to write back to me and got you to be less dismissive about the mother....but the rest? I have not been manipulating...those are plain facts and you admit too as you don't mention them or you don't refute them aside from the help point...I am not saying so much for you to just pick one and try and run with it lol
I am not angry at you...I don't know why you think that we are having a discussion...other than throwing a taunt or two at you for fun...that is not being angry...guess you haven't talked to people like me..or just plain don't like people like me... Ah as for me not being able to talk without being rude to people....I guess you are just special....it's fun teasing you
I still don't care about the mother having any mental disabilities and never said I did. I've always responded like a sensible person but okay. That's the narrative I see that you want to run with.
Why did the author make the main characters twins if they are only going to focus on the sister
true i feel like its gonna be focused only on the girl
Though it’s also unique that we’re also focusing on arjen too sometimes makes us feel more like there’s two mc
Honestly in the beginning author was doing a good job at making the story work with 2 MCs but now it's way more heavily focused on the girl.
EX: this chapter, male twin barely got any lines it was heavily focused on female. She gets all the scenes as well and judging from this chapter I'm assuming the majority of the season is going to be abt her and her blood.
It's sort of disappointing to me, I wish we could've kept this as 2 MCs. It feels to me as if there's going to be romance in the future- which I don't really like paired with this story.
That is not an introvert thing. That's being an asshole. Nobody is being nice to you because they give a damn about you. It's just basic common decency.
Not really he already said the first time they met he doesn't want to be friends so why is he still approaching Skylar
Yep I agree ...that's not how an introvert ...because this is something introvert will understand...
We dont run away from people ...we do exchange casual talks but wont get deeply into people ..that's all
Because he's a nice person and wanted to be friendly. Why can't Skylar just say no to being friends without being an asshole? It was only the second time they interacted and he wanted to compliment his photos. I just don't think it's correct to call this introvert behavior or excuse it because he had past trauma. Some people just like talking and being nice. Skylar apparently knows how to be decent since he can be friendly with the teacher. Have respect for your peers too.
He already draw the line the first time they met being more talkative and approaching to the person that doesn't want to talk to you is dumb because he made clearly the first time they talk he don't wanna be friends with him
We can just agree to disagree then
I feel bad for the best friend especially since MC did not respect that man's feeling at all . On the other hand you snooze you lose. The world is a cruel place. Gotta be quicker than that lol. He will find someone way better looking than MC.
All I can imagine is the face of the bartender listening to them
I don't think the ML is in love with her so I don't his behavior is weird or progressing too fast. I would say he's mostly in lust with her and as a bonus finds her presence comforting. Probably because he's been alone most of the time. Also it's kinda weird that just because he showed her a lil kindness that she's willing to bump uglies though. Desperation maybe? Yeah that's my 2 cents.
I think it's more of a survival thing. He's the only nice person she's met in the world, but he's weak to her appearance. So she has to seduce him in order to survive, since he can kill the zombie things
I decided to stop reading this a long time ago until the divorce happened but I check the comments every now and then to get an idea of where the story is and omg so close to chapter 80 but i want to read it nowwww it's killing me
First manga that I went in hating a character and came out a fan. I simp for Rumi (ノ≧∇≦)ノ
I never hates her, just not a fan of romance
This is too good!! Wish I had discovered this when it had way more chapters because I can't wait . this had a grip on me and I could not let go till I finished.