Sarafffff's Topics (145)

I agree!! But I don' remember reading this in the novel

It is like rough sex cant exist without breaking boundaries. That line added nothing, it just made it kinda uncomfortable. I am trying to pretend I didnt read that

Oh and authors usually put those stuff cause believe or not rape kink is pretty popular amoung women, speacially in korea. It is a direct result of purity culture and misogyny where men forcing themselves and getting what they want is seem as "masculine"

You may be forgetting he was never a good person. His sweet love with her doesn't change that he's a killer. And apparently he proves that when he gets his memories back in the novel (right? I think he even confines her). Did we forget he tried to murder her when they met? And sexually harassed her when they first met with no memory. This mf never cared about consent. He's said he's going against his nature by being nice the whole time. You should have had the ick the whole time (in my opinion, of course. you can feel what you want).

I mean this is supposed to be a romance I don't care whether he's a good and nice person or not, he could and should still be a good partner to her, and I guess the author also forgot that he was appalled when he mistakenly thought that his past self was abusive towards her? Also I've looked at the scene you were referring to and I have to say I don't think this was sexual harrasment the way he pinned her down was suggestive but he didn't actually do anything besides that it seems he really just wanted to subdue her, I feel like this was more the author wanting this to look "sexy" than anything else not a good timing obviously but yeah

Yup yup, he looked at his past self with such disgust, makes no sense to drop that. Just because he is a killer does automatically makes him a guy with a sex offender mind, example he cared about the children and elders in his brother factory.

You get it

Neither do I but I could be wrong it's been a while

I like how you ignored the times he jumped her bones when she said "no" him being a sadistic killer is just the cherry on top. This is a "dark" romance, and this mf happens to not be a good person just cuz he cares for his pookie. If he was such a nice guy, he wouldn't have to fight so hard not to assault her. His good thoughts don't cancel out the bad. (I don't know why this is making me so passionate now)

Again never said he was a nice guy, and yes the whole "I have to restrain myself not to fuck her brains out" thing is weird af but while I admit I am a bit more lenient on this one since I love the art there's still a difference between that and having him go out his way to say with a smirk that he does not need her consent anyway, especially since as I said in my first comment she clearly seemed into it and wasn't even complaining to begin with

Rapey mf are hazardous, unless they get proper permission. So it's hard for me to nitpick what is less bad than the other if he's breaking the rules of consent anyway. But I understand you may be saying it comes down to your preference. And I respect that. By your logic tho, saying that aloud is part of the play, so if she liked it, it shouldn't be a problem either. Lines like that are common in "rape play", actually

Turning one of the worst sexual crimes into some sort of kink is weird asf... patriarchy really is winning damn lol

I'm so confused I'm not sure I understand what you were trying to say I don't think that line was needed period since she didn't try to push him away or told him to stop so yeah it's definitely a problem that the author felt the need to have him say that. All in all my first comment was mostly me expressing my extreme disappointment as I genuinely, maybe naively so, hoped we wouldn't go there I thought this would be more about her slowly "taming" the violent side of him and him teaching her to be more open to people or at least to one person lmao etc as I've seen in other novels and manhwa before

He has both good and bad. His ego, sadism, and wanting to cherish her is all true. When people talk, they won't say what you think is only necessary. But it's fine to not like him saying the quiet part out loud.

You're defending a character because you're able to get over him being a murderer. But if I describe how to engage consensually in an over the top kink (because as far as I'm concerned, almost none of their sexual reactions have been consentual, therefore is not kink, but assault) you want to pop off. If you understood what real "play is", you would not be defending him and coming for me. Nothing was fine, even before he said that. To only get upset at him now is delusional, this is a dark thriller romance with a morally compromised ML. I've been reading him as trash the whole time, there's no line in the sand to draw, mf already crossed the line a long time ago. No means no.

Rape is not a kink, rape us a crime. You sound like men that turn rape and barely legal into sub categories in porn sites. Rape and violence against women being turned into kink is an instrument of patriarchy for desensitization of those issues that blur even more the lines between rape and sex in peoples minds. A man beating a woman is bad unless it is in bed? Cause she "chose" it? This is just liberal feminism at its biggest form. Kinks dont come from a vacuo, it is not a coincidence more women have "rape kinks' than men do

Emulating rape is not play. People draw lines mls being sex offenders just like at mcs being peds, they are crimes people are more sensitive about, speacially women

Force play does exist. People do it for several reasons. There's plays people do that you may not like, but if they both consent with no coercion, mutual interest, and lay down rules, it's play. I understand the urge to moral grand stand and project. But if you don't understand consent, adult play, or lack the reading comprehension to see I've NEVER even implied the ML or rape is cool, you may not be mature enough for this series. I really want you to stay safe. I can't tell if you understand that none of their steamy times have been consensual, that's the only reason I'm entertaining this "internet beef"

No wonder patriarchy is alive and well lol. Choice feminism at its peak. Questioning my maturity using ad hominem does not help your case.

You are in every comment defending this even tho several people expained to you the contradiction of those words with his mental dialogs and even tho korean industry is known to romanticize rape as a sub tag of porn even when it doesn't add anything

I saw a man posting a pic of a woman s body extremely bruised under #kink on twitter and she said she consented, does that makes it not being abused cause he is beating her in a bed? Kinks dont exist in a vacuo. There is a reason more women have receiving kinks than males.

rape and play are not the same. At this point we don't need to go around in circles if you don't know that. Saying different plays don't exist because you don't like it doesn't morph reality. I don't engage in ANY type of play, wouldn't even wanna read about it. But what is, just is

Turning rape into a "play" or a subcategory of porn is a tool that desensitizes people to it. It is not a coincidence more women have that kink in the receiving end than males, keep playing into patriarchy hands.

If someone defining what play is makes me a sex enthusiast. Then its a wonder you don't yell slurs at the dictionary. I'm demisexual, and have little interest in participating or encouraging it. I'm just educated. I advocate just as loudly about the grooming effect media has on men and women alike. Going after character is what people losing an argument usually do. I really don't think you're mature enough for this content.

The readers of this manwha don’t give a damn about any of the facts if they can somehow delude themselves into thinking the guy they’re simping for isn’t an abusive rapist. They’re fucking cheering this loser on for beating up the doctor when he’s literally done worse to KD. Guess it doesn’t matter if he’s more attractive.

100% but tbh I personally don't even think he looks good he looked fine in the early chapters, both of them did, but now there's just something about their faces and their heads that doesn't seem to match with the rest of their bodies and it just makes them look fucking ridiculous to me

Yeah, agreed. At least their ugly bodies and lifeless faces fit the terrible writing.

Is this about oji or smth? I haven’t caught up with chapters in a bit and I’m thinking abt getting back into it

Yeah it's about him, it's still good but I'd suggest maybe putting this on hold a bit longer unless you don't mind having to wait for weeks for that whole mess to be resolved

Ikr the last panel where he's talking about destiny I really wanted to junp inside the screen and smack the shit out of him . Like I get it u like her but that's not the approach u take with someone who recently broke up and the ml also needs to stop being so fucking nonchalant like he's suffering but still aghhhh its driving me nuts

Ugh I know I despise nonchalant men like dude I get you have issues but you were going on about how she was basically your safe place just a few chapters ago now you decide to shut her out? Tf

fr we’ve seen enough of them i wanna see the side couple alreadyy