I both hate but understand why Moon waltzed into the junkyard
One side of me wants to strangle his dumb ass cuz he was strongly and obviously warned off the junkyard…he waltzed in there alone anyways, even during sundown lmao. I mean, how much clearer can the old man get past “other junkyard owners still don’t go near that place, even after years”??
But I also agree with his logic—if a shootout happened every day for years on end, you’d think the junkyard would have been sniffed out and occupied by the police by now. And a hands-on man like him wouldn’t believe rumours on principle anyway, which I find to be part of his charm. Aaaaaaaaaaaghghghgh
The homoerotic tension between SHJ and HYJ is crazy even by shounen standards
I feel bad for both of them. Felix is genuinely doing his best to give Gio the best life but his loving efforts are getting rejected by Gio. He’s also getting his boundaries pushed in and manipulated, which is not a good thing even if the manipulator as a valid reason.
And Gio...I’m not sure if “abandonment issues” is the right focus here. From how I see it, Gio’s warped mental is not from his biological parents leaving him—it’s from him identifying as his disability. The disability’s been ingrained in his lifestyle so much it became a part of who he is and he believes that if that part of himself is gone after the cure, then people won’t seen him as “Gio” anymore because he’s developed a personality around that trait. He probably doesn’t know how to act once that part of his norm is gone which is why he’s so adamant about keeping it. Something like “Felix/people won’t see me as the same respectable and loveable person after this part of me is gone.”
As someone who’s lived with constant anxiety, I understand the fear of losing something that’s been a norm throughout their entire life. Granted, my example isn’t extreme or as relevant, but suddenly living a life without the debilitating anxiety I was used to made me super uncomfortable and—ironically—seek sources to make myself anxious again. It took me years to adjust to a more stable mentality, but thankfully I’m in a better place now for it.
I feel like the author could’ve gone with the “losing identity” narrative rather than the “abandonment issue by bio parents” but they probably needed a reason to shoehorn his bio family into the story lol. Either way, I’m loving the angst and drama ;D I love this manhwa!
I honestly think it’s probably a combo of childhood abuse and abandonment, a lot of which was spurned ON by his disability. The bulk of major mental illnesses and personality disorders develop in children between the ages of 7-9 and can be exacerbated especially when the abuse has occurred before those ages
Now we don’t know his entire mental health journey but from the little window we’ve seen into his life it does NOT seem like he is or has gone to therapy to deal with these issues. This means there’s probably a VERY good chance that all of these issues have morphed together giving us the mental block we see before us
I totally agree, the early abandonment likely played a huge role in his current mentality and he doesn’t look like he’s had any professional guidance either :(
I’m not entirely convinced that the neglect is the entire reason behind his mentality though. Gio received a HUGE loving foster family and also garnered loyalty and respect from his coworkers for years. I saw no trauma-related incidents from the people who’ve played major roles in his life since kindergarten (that’s when he was adopted, I assume,) and with that kind of upbringing, I feel like his confidence, self-love and self-respect would outweigh his trauma from early years—especially now that he’s an adult with better emotional and logical thinking skills. He knows what he’s good at, he’s received Felix’s love outside of Gio’s weak moments (with his illness), he knows he’s loved enough to guess Felix’s present response to him voicing his worries, and I think he also mentioned that he knew his illness was the reason why he was abandoned in the first place (correct me if I’m wrong haha.) If illness was the cause for abandonment, why hesitate to nip that problem in the bud?
That’s why I thought Gio was also afraid of losing his identity with his illness, since losing a part of himself meant losing a part of what Felix loved.
Oops I tried disliking my own comment for science and it went through LOL
Also I just realized my original post spoke as if abandonment issues was never an issue, sorry! I meant that Gio identifying as his disability was probably the main factor behind his current mental, rather than the neglect. Other factors definitely played a part, for sure
Oh 100% I think we’re both in agreement that it’s a combo of issues with the primary being his disability~ I really have confidence that they will be able to work it out and pave the way to healthier communication
Yeahhh for sure! I’m hopeful for that too ;)))
DASS HAWT BUT
HOW ARE THEY NARRATING THIS OVER THE PHONE LOL
I think it’s bc it’s phone s3x or like a little imaginary scenario param is describing to hwi
I can imagine the phone sex + foreplay, but how are they narrating the monologues? XD
I can’t imagine that sounding natural lololol
Gio looks so miserable in that last panel, I get his worries but he really needs to speak up :’(((
I hope this program isn’t government-funded, cuz if it is, then their entire public health department needs to crash and burn LOL. On the contrary, they should be aiming to shut it down cuz I’m pretty sure it puts populations at risk
To explain: the program advertises “saving mankind” by passing on ONE person’s godly genes and attract as many women to participate (for maximum company $$$.) But no matter how godly the genes are, if everyone participates then it’ll just lead to inbreeding; Barrett’s gonna be the bio father for a huge chunk of the next generation’s children, if not all of them. Inbreeding = higher chances of genetic defects = likely extinction (if nothing’s done to fix the issue.)
I mean, human extinction is an extreme case and the most that’ll happen is probably Barrett’s ancestry going extinct real quick (cuz all the half-siblings are gonna inbreed and cause more problems for their future generations.) Those ladies aren’t gonna see their genes passed on for long
Tl;dr: This program sucks major ass
Edit: Thanks to the reply below for a great insight and POV :D Inbreeding doesn’t always = higher chances of genetic defects, especially in Barrett’s case
Editing in some thoughts I should’ve added beforehand:
Even the “perfect genes” could become detrimental in a changing environment, because there’s no telling what earth will look like several years in the future. Even if the genes are perfect for the current generation, they could negatively interact with the environment in the future (become susceptible to a new strain of viruses, inability to adapt to climate change, etc.) and fk over everyone carrying these genes. The reduction of genetic diversity doesn’t have healthy prospects for mankind’s survival in general
And that’s assuming that these genes were truly manufactured to be “perfect” in the first place. Who’s to say there was no human error that overlooked inactive detrimental genes?
Well, actually just a thought but if Barrett's genes are perfect and exempt of any kind of harmful mutations, then, even with inbreeding, it wouldn't change too much.
Let me explain: We are all, and I mean all, healthy carriers of at least one genetical disease: And that's why inbreeding sucks: If a healthy carrier of a certain type of a genetical disease reproduce with another healthy carrier of the same disease, it would resolve on 50% of chances to have a kid actually suffering from the disease. And as genetical diseases appear and disappear from the genome by mutations, I can tell ya that we are all healthy carriers of numerous possible genetical diseases.
If Barrett's genetics are perfect, it means that he doesn't have any kind of harmful mutations and isn't the healthy carrier of any kind of diseases: In this situation, even if two of his kids decided to have kids between them (granted that they don't have the same mother and didn't inherit the same mutations from their mothers), then it would be actually less likely to have a child with any kind of genetical disease. In this case, inbreeding doesn't matter much. Eh, Barrett could reproduce once again with one of his daughters without having to fret about the result: If his genetics are really perfect, then, no matter what, the new born will be completely healthy, genetically speaking.
On the same track of thoughts, I read once about a breeder doing the same kind of experiments with their German shepherds. Her and her family before her actually worked really hard on the same bloodline for generations and generations and at the end of it, she was so sure about the genetics of that precise bloodline that she didn't hesitate to let one of her latest result be mounted by her father. The results are that the puppies had the highest percentage of inbreeding I ever saw in dog breeding but were completely healthy. They are at least 8 years old now and, as that litter is still strictly monitored, none of them never developed any kind of genetical diseases or any kind of the commun diseases for that particular dog breed.
All that to say: inbreeding doesn't mean genetical diseases, it means higher percentage of chances to develop them. If one's genetics are perfect, then one could sleep with his mother, daughter, granddaughter, great granddaughter without much concern, as they aren't a healthy carrier of any kind of harmful mutations.
Oh and to finish if off: mutations still happens and even if in a family the patriarch and the matriarch are genetically perfects, it doesn't mean that their great grandchildren will not be healthy carriers of any kind of harmful mutations. I wouldn't recommend to keep it in the family.
Funny fact: as humans we are all a little bit inbred, as our genetic material is far less diversified than any other kind of great apes (and we don't even know why).
That’s an interesting insight, thank you! If this program encouraged Barrett fathering multiple generations (reproduce with his children, grandchildren, etc.) then establishing a founder’s effect with the “perfect genes” could indeed save mankind, as the advertisement claimed. I wrote the original comment with the assumption that Barrett’s genes weren’t as perfect as they seemed to be; aside from human error, the environment is constantly changing and there’s no telling how the “perfect genes” of one era could interact with the world hundreds of years down the line. If these genes backfire, say, 1000 years in the future, then populations composed entirely of these genes could perish, and the reduced genetic diversity would become a handicap...was at least my thought process, haha.
That study you mentioned sounds interesting! Do you remember the title? I’d like to take a look, if possible :D Otherwise I’ll just sift through google scholar lol
Well, I think that a founder generation with Barrett's genes would be a complete stupidity, as genetic variation is one of the most important things if we're talking about adaptation. Say, if we had a founder generation right now, with the corona virus and then, guessing that this founder generation weren't in any kind resistant to corona virus... Well, it would be a massacre. A complete change of environment can be acceptable for a specie because of genetic diversity. Fun fact: Bacteries and virus clone themselves as a reproductive system. But let us imagine a little bit... If the bacterias for the Black Plague (I think, that's the name in English? Or dark plague, maybe) or the corona virus were all the same, genetically speaking, they would all die if the environment changes brutally (we're talking about months, uh. Not years. And not a lot too, just if the temp dropped by 15 degrees in 2 months, for example.). Virus and bacterias need genetic diversity to survive, exactly like us. But they reproduce by making perfect copies or themselves. So. How do they survive? Well... They steal genetic material from the dead bacterias on the floor. Not even joking. They go, find a dead virus or bacteria and have sex (as in sharing genetic information) with it: they take genetic material from the corpses. Lovely. Well, that's the reason we have flu every year and that's why corona virus is so much of a hassle 1 year later.
Oh dear, no, I don't remember. I skimmed through it when I was reading thesis breeders made about genetics, diseases and fur colour. It was years ago. I can't even remember the name of the breeder who did that. But I can still glimpse at a cat fur and guess its genetics, the colour of its parents and the length of their fur. Nothing really useful but it's cool.
Oh, and another fun fact: Every white tiger in this world is actually a descendant of the same tiger named Mohan. He was white and was coupled with one of his daughter (normal tiger) to make descendants cause the white colour was actually a recessive gene and to have that mutation, the only way was inbreeding. All of the white tigers in captivity are related to Mohan.
Ah I thought you were inferring that Barrett causing the founder’s effect would be beneficial since you were talking about good genes being passed onto multiple generations. My bad, I just realized you were correcting a portion of my statement and not speaking about the species’ survival as a whole (I’ll retract the “inbreeding = higher chances of genetic defects” statement since you made a good point)
And i agree, genetic diversity is essential for a species’ survival. That’s exactly what I was getting at in my reply, which is why I thought the program’s “saving mankind” motto was complete bs. Barrett reproducing with every female out there is gonna lead to a loss of genetic diversity and making populations more susceptible to complete genocide
Is my site tripping or did all the replies get deleted after I edited my comment? (⊙…⊙ ) Pity, there was a nice discussion going on, I hope it’s just a temporary glitch
P.S: just to add: In 1000 years, those genes would have mutated too, in some ways too. In fact inbreeding can have two distinct effects: inbreeding depression, which is what we were talking before: Lack of diversity, boom, population bottleneck (sharp reduce in population). Or it can also give one population a purge effect by showing off the sleeping mutations and making the rest of the pop avoiding them. But oh well, Barrett is named Barrett and not Adam: One thing or another, he's just gonna be a high-class prostitute for one hundred or two of filthy rich omegas and isn't a threat for the genetic pool of human kind.
Thanks for the discussion tho, I appreciated it!
It's cause you edited! But it's back on when we commented.
Oh and if we need to talk about the ethics of this kind of program... Don't even let me start. Poor Barrett.
Ah I see, I definitely need to brush up on my theories again xD And you’re right, realistically the program wouldn’t have much effect on the species cuz it’s not an international project or anything. I suppose I was just mad that everyone in the webtoon revered the program like it was some kinda godsent salvation and that no one was questioning its potential consequences haha. Thank you as well for the discussion!
Poor Barrett indeed, hopefully he’ll be freed from this real soon
“I’m near-certain someone’s having sex in there! It’s the 21st century after all!”
“But let’s knock anyways to make sure they’re really having sex!”
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For sure there's these kinds of ppl in the world 9.999% certain HAHA
Probably not why they asked, but a lot of gRapes happen in public areas such as the restroom. Maybe that's why they knocked
But it was fucking funny lol
It makes sense when you put it like that, but for example it was gRape in the stall, how should people approach to help the one being gRaped..?