LONG BUT PLEASE READ TILL END
while i do agree it was horribly for MC to do such horrible things you must take in her circumstances and surroundings.
there is a clear line between rich and poor, the rich make the rules and stand on the top. thus the rich have the clear CHOICE on whether or not they choose to be good or bad or do things in the name of justice in a corrupt way. the rich have that privilege and priority while the poor do not. (at least in this story)
MC had to deal with 1. already being poor 2. a sick and dying mother 3. debt and more debt piling up. money as they say makes the world go around, without the money there is no way to live properly. the stress loaded onto MC and thus she went off into the deep end.
she was not given the privilege of doing things for mere justice when she herself has no power to provide it. i mean come on she's broke and alone.
the black knight commander (i dont remember his name) took her state into consideration but not in a loving way. he used it to manipulate her to do his deeds (i am guessing) and either 1. was in love with her in some sick way 2. needed her to fulfill the "chores" and do his dirty work 3. simply liked watching her fall into suffering.
it's obvious she didn't take pride in her choices and yet continued to make them. she probably believed she had gone too far and had no way out (due to her commanders manipulation) so she continued to do so in order to survive.
while she is not a saint she is also no Satan. cut her some slack.
in fact look at yourselves, i see people constantly simping for vicious and horrible men such as Dion from How To Protect the Female Lead's Older Brother and hating on morally gray female MC's.
i know you'll say I'm exaggerating and bringing sex/gender into it but i have seen it in MULTIPLE manhwas. you'll praise the attractive yet absolutely despicable men and trash onto the not good/not bad female characters. grow up and realize it please.
EXAMPLES.
Attractive Male VILLAINS: the villain Yohan from White Blood/Unholy Blood, simply because he is attractive many ignore all the horrible deeds he committed and continue praising his looks and "love" along with Dion from The Way to Protect the Female Lead's Older Brother.
Morally Gray Female MC: the MC Suji from the Pyramid Game there are instances where she is not a good nor a bad person but a human simply trying to survive but because she is not kind and sweet she is mainly shit on by many people. Along with the MC in Surviving Romance
A very strong flawed not innocent FL who wants to atone for her past crimes and live her life without anymore regrets.
She wants vengeance but she wants to become a better version of herself first.
Kinda reminds me a little of the great story: The Monster Duchess and The Contract Princess
THANK YOU! finally someone said it. i’m tired of seeing people brush off the mc’s situation. she is a definition of a human that would do whatever they can just to survive. i couldn’t word it better myself.
They already know they just don't care, and neither do I its not like i hate her shes just there as the main character so what can I do
ah you reminded me to continue on with that one! i forgot about finishing it ╮(￣▽￣)╭
sorry that it was long! i just saw some pretty crude comments completely trashing on her as if she truly had a choice so i went on a rant LOL
It is still very engaging. Trust me.
as a child with a neglectful father or to put it simply a father who left i understand vincente. while i do not crave my fathers love or anything related to him i could most certainly understand this.
while i can't help but subconsciously dislike the MC and label her as selfish i do understand that her circumstances did not help. the staff and husband were horrible for simply labeling her as a "spy" and leaving her out of things simply because was a woman from another family.
it's so obvious she had PPD and without having lady in waiting there was no one to really help her or teach her how to get through it. while i will NEVER EVER forgive her or justify her neglecting her son (i still can't help but hate her for that) i do not think she is an evil person.
i do see her as selfish, but i suppose i see her as a morally gray person too. she isn't innocent but nor is she guilty of something. she was a victim to bad circumstances and dealt with having a child alone at age 16-17 while dealing with other things. obviously it piled up on her. she is most certainly a horrible mother in the past, but she's trying so hard now... i guess i give her brownie points for that.
i used to think i was a nice person but after reading this i've just gotten so triggered. i can't help but see her as a selfish woman. but... i'm so conflicted. i guess this story struck a nerve. of course i want to continue reading because i feel like this story has also taught me more about people's different POVs and whatnot
she definitely was selfish, but being selfish doesn't make you a bad person, the ones that i feel were more in the wrong were the ones that saw how selfish she was and the mistakes that she was making and didn't told her about it or helped her with her PPD, like honestly, HOW difficult is to notice someone is not ok and try to help them, even if you can't help, you try to guide them to someone that actually can..... （￣へ￣）
exactly it's quite infuriating in fact. so much could have been prevented if the people had at least tried to speak with her or help her out, but she is just surrounded by other close minded and selfish people thus making her situation worse.. still can't fully sympathize or like her though but i get you
that’s it.. it just hurts. hanbi, sua and sunwoo are all fucked up people. of course i sympathize with hanbi much more and totally despise sua and sunwoo, those two deserve nothing. if only sua and hanbi got together first
i understand the people disgusted with the fl and zion. i also understand the people who are defending the fl and zion.
i have friends that dated people like zion/the female lead and it is HORRIBLE, dating someone and wanting to love them only for you to realize they're going to dump you just cause. and being in the situation where my friend went after my other friend's ex. someone who made her breakdown and sob her eyes out, she STILL dated him. i dropped that friend obviously.
but take it from zion and the fl's situation.
they're NOT bad or evil people, you also have to understand that zion doesn't even know if leo and him are friends, leo made no effort to stop the breakup and they've been broken up for 3 years.
i do sorta get the frustration of seeing zion go after the girl who practically broke his friend tho. it's pretty fucked up to go after the one person who made your friend break down and cry.
BUT you also have to take the fl into consideration, the trauma of seeing her parents divorce and losing belief in the existence of love has obviously affected her. she admits she feels bad for her ex's and is a coward.
but she isn't evil or cruel, she breaks up with them when she loses feelings since it would hurt both her AND her s/o if she stayed with them.
it's not about whether the people in these comments are "mature" it's about how the FL has been a shitty person thus far and how she dealt with her situations resulted in the pain in ANOTHER person.
but also remember that leo didn't fight for her, nor did he accurately explain his feelings well. that's his loss. and the fl shouldn't have been so mean either. but no one is right or wrong.
just read the story and enjoy it or drop it and forget about it.
Totally agree
Also that "dating someone and wanting to love them only for you to realize they're going to dump you" also applied to FL
FL believe in the novel that leo will immediately fall in love with yulliana
And spoiler (don't scroll down if you don't want spoiler)
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Apparently zion read the novel too even before he met FL
HAHH?? OMGG
yeah i meant to say that the FL was a player and just like zion but i forgot her name LOL sorry for the confusion!
I think maturity does become a factor when they refuse to change their idea even after proven wrong by multiple people. For example some of them don’t seem to understand that having to witness a divorce as a child is traumatizing. It forces you to wake up and realize all those fantasy you had were fake. Your parents won’t get back together even tho they married said their vows and had you. Some readers just don’t understand this huge factor and it just pains me Bc I’ve been through this same divorce shit and it just seems like they are playing it off as something that’s not important or something that doesn’t need hold impact when it does very much. To a child their family is their whole world, their warmth, and their safety box and to have that stripped away one day you obviously lose a piece of you’re original self. (this is my thoughts)
ah i see! i get what you mean, i've never dealt with parents splitting since yk just a mom. but i have seen some of my friends go through mental breakdowns due to divorce and it's very much obvious how it affects someone! I wish you the best and the greatest happiness. but what i greatly dislike with this FL now is the spoilers that (spoiler)
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the FL would play with the original ML's feelings and get "mad/sad" when he is heartbroken and relies on the ORIGINAL FL for comfort. also it was stated that the FL and the ML zion will kiss in front of the original ML knowing that he is in love with our FL. Which automatically made me think "such horrible people..." so i understand it now but my view changed a lot after the spoilers. i don't really like our FL anymore
It's fine and dandy that they admit they are assholes and cowards who have painful past.
It's not fine to start a game of romance where you just stop when you start to develop feelings or when the feelings fade away. You don't want to get hurt, then don't hurt people in return. Is that too much to ask for?
You don't believe in love? Then why are you dating people who truly into you and hurt them? How about not dating anyone and heal yourself first? It's not like they will die if they don't date or something smh
someone did research typa shit and i appreciate it!
http://www.mangago.me/home/mangatopic/6816921/
check this comment out!
UwU thank you
No thank you for posting it in the first place. You literally don’t understand how great full I am for you explaining it
*grateful LOL
Honestly, I was just as interested as everyone else and I enjoy writing. I'm actually surprised that someone looked that far deep into the comment section that they managed to find my super old comment.
yeah i do be stalking the comment section sometimes (づ￣ ³￣)づ
ugh omfg. alexa could shove three water bottles up my ass, burst my intestines, run me over once, drop a dumb bell on me, wack me and insult me everyday and i would say "please" and "thank you". (please don't condone abuse)
but you now understand how much i am SIMPING FOR THIS FINE ASS WOMAN.
i rarely see fl's in manhwa's that have a tan or brown skin and to be honest it's so refreshing to see.
brown women, black women, white women are all beautiful and finally brown women are getting the recognition they need here. UGFBSIUbiuewhfiwu
Lmao "(please dont condone abuse)"
UGFDGLHGFHJKKLLLKDKSK
EXACTLY MY WORDS. SHE CAN MAKE ME HER SLAVE AND I CAN SPEND MY WHOLE LIFE LICKING HER FEET
the last time i said something like this my friends tried to get me a therapy appointment cause they thought i liked abusers so i gotta give that little warning tip now ｡･ﾟヾ(✦థ ｪ థ)ﾉ｡ﾟ･｡
seriously tho, she could throw me in a pit of lava and i would still love her as a ghost.
ヾ(☆▽☆)
(i'm going to rant about the crown prince because i'm the typa bitch who loves to complain about everything)
yo, isn't the crown prince like not even blood related to the imperial family? damn i hate the king and this shitty ass prince.
dude even the king knows he's ruthless, what kinda ruler do you want? like Litia was cold but never mistreated people, if anything it would be the prince abusing his power.
and it's SO stupid to mistreat one child for "balance of the empire" but spoil the other. like look what kinda bitch ass successor you've raised now!
he's become selfish, obsessive, possessive, crazy, musty, flat, rusty, and annoying BRAT. get his Rudolph the red nose reindeer hair the fuck out my face.
call me a female dog cause i sure as hell ain't no pussy. the moment mister ugly gender swapped Ariel lookalike succeeds the throne i will enter this world and fuck him and his cry-baby girlfriend up.
i feel bad for the country he gotta lead cause i know for a fact that they gonna end up in a bad situation cause of his obsession with blue cry-baby girl.
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anyways~~~ fall in love with our FL and her little followers for a seggsy face (≧∀≦)
That himbo relly did settle in our hearts
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bruh frrr i don’t want that rusty looking bitch to have an happy ending with that damsel in distresss that does nothing but cry to get people on her side. it’s so fucking annoying if they do bro they don’t deserve that at all, and the emperor is wuss piece of garbage that doesn’t even deserve the title he has, i hope he gets a heart attack and dies. I hope the crown prince falls in love w mc and gets shunned horribly, and dies in regret. they all can die bro miserably. I coudlnt stop crying for the original libertia esp when the memories of her childhood came, everyone but head maid were garbage, they turned her into what she became.
seriously! they all treated her like crap and for what reason? she's an "unloved" princess? get that mindset away from me EW. at the end of a day she's STILL a princess/superior you have to serve. and she was just a little kid, no reason to be a total ass. you wonder why she's so cold? well shouldn't you question WHY a kid turns out that way? dumb fucks. but anyways i'm here to cheer on her happy ending and that all my lovelies get a good time to spend with her! 〜(￣▽￣)〜
I forgot the older sisters name, and I'm sorry if this offends anyone. But she is a selfish fucking bitch. Don't even use the "well she was a kid bla bla bla" excuse. (i get i'm being a jerk but i'm angry and petty right now so let me rant)
When I was 7 or 8 i had a strong inferiority complex and just major issues at that young age. Literally already suicidal at that age and such a jealous brat. Yet I knew right from wrong. I knew it was wrong to do this and that and ya da ya.
She knew what she was doing was wrong, yet she was so absorbed into herself that she gave into it. I understand that feeling of "I'll never be better, and no matter how hard I'll try no one will ever notice me because I'll never be better. It's not even my fault I'm not good enough, yet I'll always feel this way and be treated this way" (yes weird for a young kid to think like but as I said i had weird issues at that age).
But anyways I GET that feeling I understand it, but I never treated ANYONE like crap no matter what I felt. Why? Because I KNEW that even if I did treat them badly, nothing would be gained. What would I get? Pride? No major guilt and regret. SO WHY. WHY DID THIS BITCH DO IT ANYWAY? HUH? Why didn't she fight to stick with her sister? She just decided to take her place and leave her behind. Doing the very thing she didn't want to happen. A literal sociopath at that age.
And my BIGGEST PROBLEM WITH HER? She hasn't changed AT ALL? LIKE AT ALL! She is STILL using her sister's fucking name, she is STILL taking her place, she hasn't changed her method at ALL! I get she's guilty and all, but feeling guilty and not doing anything about it is a different issue. UGH. And I heard spoilers (don't read past here for spoilers) I heard that she will have someone fuck up her sisters hand. because her sister is good at art she let her inferiority complex get the best of her AT THIS AGE and will ruin her sister's life EVEN more.
She's a fucking scumbag. Also yes, I do keep this petty and angry attitude towards the DUDES in manhwas. I recommend you do the same.
he choices were kinda justified though, she was demoted and all the other kids who were in 6th place disappeared. She knew she was going to be disposed of so in a desperate attempt she gave into her jealousy
so i'm finally not as petty right now and i'm in a calm mood and i've realised that. but my problem is that she CONTINUES to do it yk, and well I wish she could've fought harder to stick with her sister together. but oh wells i'll just see how it goes.
i’ll be damned if i’m ever fooled and disrespected like this ever again in my life (¬_¬)