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am sorry but in one of the chapter rodgo say that she die while giving brith and he pity enishia or something forgot the chapter tho ╮(￣▽￣)╭

YEEESSSS.. like people really be ignoring the fact that soooo many yaoi plots are literally built on rape. Like are authors too lazy to build an actually good plot or something?? Why is rape the first thing that comes in mind to start a romantic relationship. That shit is so toxic.

Ikr like I can already think of so many ways this story's romantic and sexual relationship could have conflicts and start out without it being fucking rape...

That's really difficult given the heavy surveillance on Psyche's body. And Psyche isn't the most crafty person so even though she has freedom she wouldn't be able to talk to Medea easily w/o catching a few eyes. Even Medea in Psyche's body has a hard time contacting even just Heli.

Meant to upvote sorryyyy

Relentless Psyche haters dislike analyzing a character beyond what they see, and what they might feel, in my opinion. Even Medea has an idea of Psyche’s bird cage, and how that impacted her mental capacity.

Yeeess they either hate her because they think she likes Helios which is obvious she doesnt or because she "betrayed" Madea, when in reality she technically didnt.

Nothing more, nothing less. When they dislike a character, they dislike them. Regardless of any redeeming features they may garner in the future, or the fact that even half the things Medea hated her for wasn’t necessarily her fault, in hindsight. Let the sheep wither in their senseless hate

Yup they'll just lose the chance to enjoy an amazing story with well made characters.

Stop acting as if you’re above everyone else because they have a different opinion than you. Most people dislike Psyche because of her stupidity, and yes, betrayal is one of the reasons why. The description the story is literally about how Psyche took everything away from Madea... I’m sure those who dislike Psyche know that her character can be redeemed... But right now she’s just really idiotic. There isn’t much to like about her.

The fact that you’re so defensive, just proves my point. I said what I said, take it or leave it. There are many comments that explain perfectly why all the Psyche hate is borderline obsessive, and I won’t repeat myself like I’m in an echo chamber for you.

Dislike her all you want. I said my piece.

Yes, Psyche was trapped in this birdcage, ignorant of the world. She’s trying to better herself, making an effort to improve herself. However, it’s been getting repetitive. Her uselessness. Her lack of critical thinking. That’s what I’m sure makes most people pissed off at her character. What pissed me off most is how it took the nanny’s death, the realization that the nanny’s death was partially her fault for her to realize her stupidity.

The princess thing... Is not really her fault since the Crown Prince is the one who decided to switch it up all of the sudden and choose the princess himself.

Addressing that I don’t think that hate is directed at Psyche, but the author. A lot of authors really think that readers will like that sudden plot twist, but it really just annoys them.

Psyche is good at heart, however you can not deny her stupidity. That’s what makes her unappealing to people. If she was smarter I’m positive people would actually like her. But she’s not. The idea of two smart female leads teaming up to kill the evil prince? Hell yeah! Even though she’s trying, her stupidity really makes it hard for people to like her. Though she did take a big step in actually asking Helios for information. That’s some slight character development there.

Since shes so useless what do you expect her to do anyways, despite the fact that she knows nothing of Madeas life. Mostly because Helios just expects her figure out things about Madea on her own. It's not like shes super strong or this amazingly smart person. Anyways I think that that Psyche and Madea are going to work together and I guess that will make Psyche less "useless" or whatever.

The thing that boggles my mind about this whole thing is that -mostly- everyone is looking through one perspective - through the eyes of Medea, which is, by all rights, an unreliable narrator. Her hate transferred to the audience, even though in some cases it wasn’t even justifiable. Hell, even I disliked Psyche at one point. However, Psyche isn’t even that useless in my opinion. She does the best she can do with the knowledge she has - she chalked up the confidence to talk back to the rude bitch who slighted her in Medea’s body, and has a natural ability to act like Medea in accordance to the given situation, despite being randomly thrown into a body that isn’t hers. Despite living a sheltered life, she’s doing things at her own pace, and even alerted Helios of Medea’s impending marriage. Everyone I’ve seen looks through a needle hole and focuses on her faults, instead of finding the positive qualities in her character.

Now, I’ve fully said my opinion on the matter. And my point in my earlier comment will remain standing as well - most of the hate she’s getting is senseless, and have become unreasonable in light of the latest chapters, whereas it would be understandable if we still lacked important information about Psyche’s motives, and mental state. My opinion isn’t above anyone else’s. If you took my earlier comment that way, I can’t bother to care much.

Yeah that true a lot of authors tend to do that and its pretty annoying. But this author seems like the type to not do this. I personally feel like Helios will start to warm up to Psyche but not necessarily like her. I feel like Helios is much too devoted to Madea to even spare Psyche a chance anyways.

I 100% agree, people are only seeing this in the perspective of Madea at the beginning of the story. Despite the fact that Madea now can understand Psyche's situation and feel empathy for her, now that shes living it.

Over all the relationship between Madea and Psych at the moment, is built on misunderstanding, miscommunication, as well as one side not knowing or understanding the full extent of the others situation.

Tonsss of miscommunication and misunderstandings - and this is what makes Medea an unreliable narrator. If the story started in Psyche’s perspective, the -majority- would flock to her side. Because she was the first female lead shown. And with Medea’s heartless and ruthless nature as seen in the beginning chapters, she would hardly be redeemable if she was on the other side of the spectrum. Psyche could have ‘cared’ about Medea’s feelings when she won the competition, yes. But if Medea knew she and the crown prince were lovers, and won the competition, would she have given up the crown because Psyche was her ‘friend?’ I can bet you she wouldn’t.

Yup you explained this perfectly

I should have used past tense. It’s true that she was useless at times. No matter how hard others try and deny it, she was useless. I remember when Madea was dying in Psyche’s body, I’m pretty sure that the god was showing favoritism. Because wasn’t the only reason why Madea was healed because the god awakened Psyche’s powers when she begged? (Correct me if I’m wrong.) Psyche would have been useless during that event if she weren’t graced. Just in general, during the events that have happened so far, Psyche hasn’t shown much usefulness. The only useful things she’s done so far is ask Helios for information.

I disagree with the POV part. For me personally I really hated Madea at the beginning. I thought she was bitchy for no reason until I learned why she was acting the way she was. Maybe that was just me. But perhaps you’re right. Maybe if it was Psyche’s POV people would like her. I don’t think even if I was in Psyche’s POV I would like her. She’d probably annoy me with her stupidity, and then if I learned about the nanny during the POV of Psyche, and the “betrayal” of Madea in her POV she would probably annoy me even more. But then again, if the story started in her POV maybe we could learn more about the “birdcage” she was stuck in, and that caused her to have such a low mental capacity. Maybe we would understand more why she’s so ignorant and dumb. Maybe we could understand more about her “freedom”.

Yeah I suppose she has been useless. You using the word useless made me see it as her not trying at all. Which she has. Anyways I definitely see a future of growth for Psyche and Madea

I see and understand your perspective, and I appreciate the fact that you took the time to see and analyze mine. And although Psyche feels as if nanny’s death was her fault, in my opinion, she was faultless in its entirety in regards to that situation. And that’s where we disagree, and I can explain to you why I think so if you want.

By the way, many people, including yourself, have said she was useless, and barely did a thing. But by that logic, I would wager Helios is even more of a useless character aside from his good looks. If psyche was not there as Medea was dying, she would be dead, and he would be crying over her body. And he watched as nanny’s body was desecrated, and we don’t even know if he went back and killed the fellows that did it. But I digress.

Ehhh?! I don’t think Helios is useless at all! Actually, during that moment, he was because he couldn’t do anything, but overall I wouldn’t say he’s useless!

I'm talking about the people who actually hate her and want her to die, because shes weak or other reasons that I've explained in my other responses, that dont make sense. Of course you dont got to like her, I just dont get the people you strongly dislike her character because of xyz.

Sorry I meant that not you

Like you said, during that moment, he was useless. Because he couldn’t do anything to save her. He teaches Psyche swordsmanship and Medea’s mannerisms, looks good, etc. But beyond that...

He didn’t even know which garden Medea was sent off to, and was in a panic. However, Psyche proved her usefulness in that moment by directing him where to go.

You’re right on that but Psyche would’ve been useless if it weren’t for her powers, the only reason why Madea was able to live through that moment was because Psyche was graced in that moment by the god. I guess Psyche knowing the way was part of it, but it wouldn’t have really meant anything if Madea died in the end.

Not only that, but going back Helios figured out that the crown prince was planning on killing “Psyche”, if not for him, Madea definitely would have died. Helios is definitely not just a useless character with only good looks.

And by that same argument, Psyche is definitely not just a useless, empty headed girl. I only brought up Helios because I can also pull out a number of reasons on why I think a certain character is useless by looking at specific situations. However, like you said, he also has many redeeming qualities as a character.

Same with Psyche. She *would’ve* been useless without her holy power, but thankfully, she did. So, she was not useless. In the end, Medea survived because Psyche was by her side.

We can say that it was a team effort because if Helios didn’t figure out what the Crown Prince was planning they wouldn’t have even had a chance to encounter Madea on her deathbed. I have yet to see a scene where he’s useless.

We can agree to disagree here. You had good points, and I had mine.

He almost killed himself in chapter 16 because of despair and his own perceived uselessness, and hopelessness at the prospect of Medea’s death. But, Psyche prevented that with her own hand, wounding herself without hesitation. We can honestly keep going in circles with this, so that’s why I said we should just agree to disagree. Lmao.

I guess there is no point to this story if that's your logic.

Psyche is a very important character in this story and killing her off would greatly alter the story. If Psyche were to die there wouldnt be a way for Madea and Psyche to find things out from the inside and kill the prince. As well as the fact that Psyche has holy power which will probably come a big help later in the story. Literally all or most of the events wouldn't have happened if Psyche wasnt a character. So therefore there wouldnt be any point to the story anyways. People logic for wanting her to die is because shes not "worth it", even though there are many reasons why she is. Such as her holy power, her relationship with prince, her niaveness may help her as well for Madea because no one would expect her understand the situation. And the most recent chapters show that Psyche is starting grow and starting to become a help to Madea.

Alright imma just move on from this conversation

I agree with ya.

He’s really just a big yandere honestly... I personally think it’s cute but that because I’m into that XD