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the only praise I give it, and it should get, is the art! the art is great! the storyline though is shit, that where people who want/need to learn how not to write a storyline should come and learn from it what not to do.

OKKK that was really rude but you still don't have the say on what the author wants to write because you don't know how hard the author work for this series so some people can enjoy this soooooo if you don't want the storyline then don't read it and just move on you don't need to make a big deal out of it and say that it's shit because we're just reading this on illegal sites so atleast respect it

I have any right to criticize when a story is bad/harmful to others. and by the way, I'm not the only one saying it, many people in the comments already explain why it is bad writing/harmful to a lot of people. if you don't know how to handle heavy topics, don't use them! let the professional authors that know what they doing do it.
I'm not been rude, criticize something that is bad does not make you rude, it makes you a thinker that thinks for himself. that's why we are humans that use our brain to analyze things and see why they bad/harmful.

I respect your opinion but can you help me understand why it made sense she’s choosing him again? I mean I’m trying to make sense of it myself.. first the guy literally hated her guts out of sheer petty jealousy in the first life, neglected her when they got married, pushed her aside a jieun came into the picture and then became extremely abusive and violent to her towards the end of whatever the hell that relationship was. So my point is he’s done next to nothing for her to “love” him yet she loved him anyway. She held out and for what? I think this is also a point that a lot of readers couldn’t make sense of. He killed her in the end anyway. Then she makes declaration to herself and god about changing her fate and not ever getting back with him in her second life. So now in her second life she gained two love interests only to end up with neither and went crawling back to the one person she vowed never to be with again. Tbh I’d rather she end up with no one then that guy. Don’t get me wrong, the story itself is great but the ending and the parts leading up to it is utter bs

Ok I admit that each one of us have the right to judge or criticize certain things

And if that is your opinion then ok I will leave you to that but my point is the storyline is not as bad as you think it is if you will read it carefully there are clues and factors that lead to that ending and why does the fl choose the current ml. Majority of you really don't get the whole point on what the author wants to convey and just going along to the hype of the comments... I wrote this comment because I just want other people who still hasn't read this story to appreciate this story because most comments here are always saying that this is a bad story when it is actually not soooooo that's all and btw this story is not harmful.

Yes, I understand your point of view. In the story itself ruveliss circumstances and his "sob story" as others may call it is not an excuse at what he did to tia and I am not justifying it. But keep in mind that 1st timeline and 2nd timeline ml is different. Yes, it is also clearly seen that tia already has trauma the moment that she went back and the fact still stands that she remembers all the events that happened in her past life and it is clearly seen that she had a hard time whenever she sees the ml. Their interaction is not even that much in the first part of the story, they only met a couple of times given that the fl clearly avoids the ml because of her trauma.

But also keep in mind that the story takes course in a couple of years. You talk as if she just jumped straight into his arms. There are many things that happened during those course of years and it is not as if tia already has romantic feelings towards him. She was just in the process of getting over trauma. And I believe and I also consider that getting over that is NOT easy because I know its not but it doesn't mean she couldn't take action to place her self in the road to recovery, which she did by finding new interests, talking about her trauma, and constantly surrounding herself by people who support her.

By that time, I believe tia is already on her path to recovery. Even then it's only enough for Tia to be comfortable around him when they're almost adults. She doesn't seriously consider him romantically until near her mid-twenties. A reminder she reincarnated to around age 9.
I also stated that 1st timeline ml and 2nd timeline ml is different. A major contributing factor to Tia being able to drop her guard around him as an adult is because she can not recognize him as the same person who hurt her in the last life.

And I just want to say that a lot of us who defend the story says and argue that 1st Timeline Ruve did all of that due to drugs. But It is not just that, The fact that he was being drugged made it easier to manipulate him and it was certainly a welcome symptom to the people manipulating him, but that's hardly the only factor. There are other things including and mainly, a genuinely realistic portrayal of emotional manipulation and isolation.

There are lot of factors and details in the story that shows the progress. There was a progression that felt natural, all the characters, with a few nonimportant ones being exceptions, change and develop over the course of the story especially the latter half.

"1st timeline and 2nd timeline ml is different." - this is where you wrong! if she didn't run away from him, he would have acted the same way as the first timeline. he is not any different in any means. is still wanted to abuse her and hated her FOR NO GOOD REASON. the story plotline shows us toward the end that he IS the same person! and he admits it too that he would have rape her and abuse her if she didn't run away from him and play "hard to get"

"But also keep in mind that the story takes course in a couple of years." the years she already knows what will happen and in those years she didn't change if she still in love with her repist. she just learn to "forgive" him, which is the worse massage you can give to readers.

"By that time, I believe tia is already on her path to recovery." - another wrong thing in this story, some trauma you can NEVER EVER recover. and after what he did to her, she should not be able to just "get over" and get with him even after 30-50 years later! that how trauma works.

"There are other things including and mainly, a genuinely realistic portrayal of emotional manipulation and isolation." - read the story again! he himself admits there is no manipulation or any other source, he WAS the problem! he blames her for getting the love of their parents and hated her for it! he wanted to make her suffer for it too.

i'm confused though. him r*ping her was not because he hated her? he hated her out of jealousy and spite at first, which is wrong in itself, but he just resents her for it.

from what i remember, he is just cold to her and ignores her until jieun comes along, but at this point - or after? he is already poisoned by those drinks that cause him to act this way, so when he r*ped her, was that not him when he was under an influence as opposed to his own spite?

I see the point you trying to make, and here lies the frustration... 1st and 2nd Ruve are not different, in fact, they are exactly the same but just the circumstances and events around the two are different. They still both started out as some sort of hatred towards tia, but the difference here is tia in the 1st timeline was indifferent (at least on the outside) towards him and tia in the 2nd timeline is more fearful and would want to avoid him at all cost. But then her reacting like that in the second timeline somehow piqued his interest? Wtf, that just ain't normal.

Of course, time heals all wounds, but we're talking about heavy trauma here. We might be more accepting of her forgiveness towards him if he had bashed on her a few times due to being under the influence of drugs. But in this case, he repeatedly abused her over and over, borderline cruel to her. From rape to miscarriage to killing her father then killing her. And we are talking about years of neglect and abuse here. Now I'm putting myself in the shoes of 1st Tia as she's going through all these things in her first life. She must have felt absolutely betrayed, despair and heartbroken since the only thing she has ever been towards Ruve was love him, loyal to him and utter devotion. The worst part was she witnessed him being all those things but towards another person. When he loved and protected Jieun, Tia would be forgotten and cast into a corner. When he doted on Jieun, he would be abusive to Tia - as shown on multiple occasions where Jieun would come crying to him, he would go yell and beat Tia for it. When he believed in Jieun empty honey coated words, he would turn a blind eye to Tia love and care shown through her actions Hence why he only realize it after she died and everything fell to shit. So 1st Ruve (even under the influence of drugs) was very very capable of being loving and kind.

Also a common theme I see from folks who defends Ruve, saying that oh he's a changed person in the second timeline so we'll go ahead forget about all the horrible things he did. We need to keep in mind that even though he doesn't remember what happened, Tia does. Now if it was the opposite, then that would have been a different story. I see why it rubbed a lot of ppl the wrong way since he doesn't remember what he did in the previous timeline - it's almost like Tia's trauma is being dismissed. Even the way he referred to it as a "dream" just rubbed me the wrong way... Like it was a figment of her imagination, like it never happened thus her trauma is not real.

What I also found ridiculous was the fact that 1st Ruve was so quick to accept Jieun, like the bitch literally materialized out of thin air and he just welcomed her into his arms - just like that. Not second thoughts, no questions asked. When on the other hand he hated tia for no good reason and was suspicious towards her because of that... We can only excuse him for his toxic and abusive behaviors due to the drugs to an extent. He was drugged much later on in the timeline. So he had all that time to literally TALK TO HER and GET TO KNOW HER and clear whatever misunderstanding and hatred he had about her. I mean he hated her for no reason so the hatred couldn't have run that deep. Sure we can say Tia could have done the same, oh absolutely, but how accepting do you think he would have been if she had approached him first when he has this hatred and negative ideas built up in his head about her? And she wasn't exactly open in the first timeline either.

"You talk as if she just jumped straight into his arms." Well yes, in a sense. She has two other love interests but deep down she will never give them a chance. They were the reasons she grew into the person that she is. Not once did she even consider them a factor is strange to me. Even though she swore up and down that she'll never love him again (give me a break) deep down the fact remains that she'll consider coming back to him again open. Otherwise, she would have been absolutely RESOLUTE in her decision and stick to her vow.

I would have to disagree with you that the progression felt natural. It was anything but natural at least for me. She never got any closure for all the things that happened to her. Sure you can factor him being under the influence of drugs for some of the events, but she will never fully understand or will never be able to acknowledge the fact that he treated her that way because he simply hated her.

*I did not proofread this, so overlook any mistakes and disruptions.

This couldn't have been more accurate. I also made a really long comment on these same topics previously. People are arguing stuff like "Tia recovered from her trauma over time" or "This Ruve is different from the 1st timeline one", regardless past comments like this one already summed it up for me.

The dream part that you mentioned really... me. Calling her extremely real trauma and past experience a dream (not only from the Prince's perspective) but also as the choice of words from the author was startling. As this comment said, it was very dismissive and kinda downplaying the severity of their past. It almost seemed like gaslighting (not only to Tia and her trauma but to readers who are almost being led to overlook the experiences in the 1st timeline for this current one.)

https://www.novelupdates.com/series/survival-story-of-a-sword-king/

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