Sorry, guys! During system maintenance, some functions like comment are unavailable.

zivile want to read (All 1)

zivile's Album ( All 0 )

zivile's List ( All 0 )

zivile's topics ( All 15 )

zivile April 19, 2020 11:39 am

Okay, the thing is if someone is on this site, she/he do not give much damn about illegal uploading. Next thing is, it is proven by some research that if person prefers read/watch/listen illegally, this person is not likely to buy stuff anyway. They better find some alternatives. Meaning, if this manga will not be uploaded, not many are going to buy chapters to see whats coming and they just go to find something else to read. So basically, mangaka is not losing that much of money as it would seem. Also, have you seen the prices lately? I am not telling, let's go and do everything illegally, but not every piece of art is worth money which have been asked. Besides, I am supporting artist on patreon, but I can do it based on my salary, which is not enough to buy every manga I would like to read. So, do not get down on people who are poor and want some joy. If you can buy it, do it, but do not expect everyone be able to do the same.

    anon April 19, 2020 11:51 am

    omaygahhhdddddddd!!!!! people like you, I swear! There's no justification for this. This is the livelihood of the author who buys their food, their clothes, pays their bills, rent, etc. PAID CONTENT is not for the free consumption of the "poor" (as what you have stated) that's why it's PAID CONTENT. mygahddd! (infinite facepalm)

    zivile April 19, 2020 12:23 pm
    omaygahhhdddddddd!!!!! people like you, I swear! There's no justification for this. This is the livelihood of the author who buys their food, their clothes, pays their bills, rent, etc. PAID CONTENT is not for... @anon

    You understand that we are on site which provides that paid content for free, right? You are trying to make a point here of all places? Like, what do you expect? We come here knowing well we are reading the content, which can be bought. But you know, I can not afford to buy all the movies I want to watch as well, so I am using torrent. I can not afford all tv shows I want to watch, because we have this streaming system, which would require me to subscribe platforms as netflix, hbo and so on. I dont have money to buy all the cd's to listen the music I want. If you have that much money to do it all and buy all, congrats, you are kinda wealthy. But you see, most people are not.

    anon April 19, 2020 12:28 pm
    You understand that we are on site which provides that paid content for free, right? You are trying to make a point here of all places? Like, what do you expect? We come here knowing well we are reading the con... zivile

    there's no point discussing with you. ugh. just stop justifying the actions of those "most people". being not wealthy is not an excuse to steal paid content. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

    Tea is muah April 19, 2020 12:43 pm

    You are correct. Most people are aware that a certain manga exists due to exposure on sites like these. But just because people like to read illegally doesn't mean that they will never pay the artist. I myself intend to buy chapters of my favourite mangas but I can't do much because all my money comes from my parents. But this only applies to mangas like these. What about those english webtoons from Lezhin or tapas or renta? I think they're the people who have to lose most from sites like these. Many english reader who start out buying don't follow through because pirated versions are available on the net. But not everyone can buy them and at least reading it here motivates at least some people to support the artist someway like you do with their patreon.

    Where I do think you're wrong is here:

    'Not every piece of art is worth the money asked for'
    That is seriously rude.That statement in itself is so very ignorant of how much artists have to works to bring out the manga they drew. Please have respect for people in this field. Do you know how competitive things are? As an artist myself, I know how hard it is to draw even one full page, let alone storyboarding, plot and all that extra jazz that goes into it. If you don't wanna buy it, I understand, but you don't have to be so rude about it. All that translation to english does take extra time and effort on the behalf of the publisher. So I don't think they're wrong to charge a few extra bucks for it.

    Anonymous April 19, 2020 12:45 pm
    omaygahhhdddddddd!!!!! people like you, I swear! There's no justification for this. This is the livelihood of the author who buys their food, their clothes, pays their bills, rent, etc. PAID CONTENT is not for... @anon

    Ya why u on mangago then… only stolen stuff here hypocrite

    zivile April 19, 2020 12:53 pm
    there's no point discussing with you. ugh. just stop justifying the actions of those "most people". being not wealthy is not an excuse to steal paid content. ¯_(ツ)_/¯ @anon

    Oh, you got it all wrong, I am not justifying anything. Like, why would I? I told you what I understand what I am doing perfectly. And being poor is not the excuse, it is the reason. For example, people in Netherlands tend to buy movies legally, people in post-soviet countries, as Lithuania, have tendency to get everything illegally. Why? Because minimum wage is 3 times bigger in Netherlands than in Lithuania. As for the living expenses, they are not so different for the household of at least to person. Where is some differences if it is one person household, but not gonna go in details. So, don't put being poor as a choice of people, who just want to watch some movie or read some manga. Of course, where are people who just want free stuff, but some really are struggling. And I said to not get down on them for that.

    zivile April 19, 2020 1:07 pm
    You are correct. Most people are aware that a certain manga exists due to exposure on sites like these. But just because people like to read illegally doesn't mean that they will never pay the artist. I myself ... Tea is muah

    This is why I said ,,every piece of art", not manga. I didn't just manga, I meant art business in general. And I stand by my point, not all the art is worth the pricing. Just because you spend long time doing something, means it is worth asked price. People tent to get greedy. Take banana and tape picture. Why do you think people made fun the fact it was sold over 100000? Do you think it was worth it? I don't. Take fiverr. Do you honestly think all the artist there asking for reasonable price? Where are a lot YT videos showing how youtubers buy services there and compare the price and product. You will see, there are more people than me, who agree that some pieces of art are overpriced. Besides, I am drawing myself and know the struggle all too well, but this does not change what I said above.

zivile March 7, 2020 6:14 pm

Okay people, look I am getting really annoyed by all ,,rape is bad" thing. All the fucking decent human beings know it and just because we see it on manga don't mean I am about to go and rape someone, the same as I read about killing and other bad shit. I am just not going to go and do it. This is fantasy, the fruit of mangaka's imagination and if thats how they are telling the story so be it, as for me I just have to decide if I like it or not, and if not I am not going to read it, simple as that. If you think this kind of story telling or settings teach that rape is funny and nothing bad, the problem is not with manga but you. Don't fucking mix real life and imagination. If you are not able to separate these things and enjoy story, don't read it. And for god sake stop all lecture, I am not stupid to not know what rape is and that it can do to people, but for the real life people not the yaoi boys who do not exist. Like, these people on this manga live in some world where rape is something they get over easy and do not make anything of it. Maybe they do not even see it as rape. Maybe they are just created to be like this. And thats how it is. These settings are for that world and do not try to apply it for our reality.

zivile's questions ( All 0 )

zivile's favorite ( All 0 )

zivile's message board ( All 0 )

zivile follow ( All 0 )

> 1 people followed zivile