I bet Mr. Hot Daddy will save the situation
He has mommy milkers (づ￣ ³￣)づ
Raymond may be an asshole in our modern world, but looking at this with a 18th century point of view he really has no choice. Yeah, it's bad, it's heartbreaking, but depending on the country sodomy was punished by law and oftentimes with death. So yes, he's protecting himself and his business, but most importantly he's protecting Ian's life, Kaya wellbeing, the household, and the business partners and their workers, as this kind of thing could ruin them too. I hope death is not a thing in this setting and that something will happen so that they can be together without Raymond marrying
Hey, I have an idea: send Ian to Nersia. You know. Because this situation isn’t a one-to-one between Ian DYING and him staying in a situation where he has to watch the selfish asshole who is DEFINITELY USING HIM marry someone else.
If Ian goes to Nersia, he can build his own damn life, free of being used as a mistress.
Please don't exaggerate the concepts I pointed forward, I was rash in writing them and I understand that they could be read as absolutes.
I just wanted to point that the choice Raymond is making, although selfish, is not unbelievable or unrealistic, especially given the setting.
I'm not saying that Raymond is doing THE RIGHT THING. No. But that in this context it would have made sense.
Also, I am convinced that Raymond loves Ian and is not thinking about using him. Raymond is discovering love, he is not familiar with it, has obvious difficulties managing it and admitting it to himself.
What I wanted to really say in the end is that I like the story, both main characters despite their flaws and I like the angsty mess. Also I look forward to a possible character growth for both Ian (in confidence) and Raymond (in being honest with himself and his feelings) and I hope in a happy ending, after all the story is about their love story so I hope they will be together.
Agreed, this story is awesome.
But what about “clipping his wings” could possibly be read as anything other than monstrous?
Raymond loves Ian, but not in any healthy, selfless sense.
If love is to be defined as selflessness and sacrifice for another person’s sake, then Raymond’s feelings for Ian are nothing more than possessiveness.
Granted, there is demonstrably more to it than that, but this is toxic and gross, and I honestly think that Ian had too little experience with healthy relationships (like, none) for his being with Raymond to ever be a good idea, because one person quite clearly has all the power here.
First of all, Thank you for discussing with me, I like to share ideas like this, I never get to do it much.
Yes I agree with your ideas.
However I have optimistic expectations for the story in terms of growing into a more healthy relationship, because the author is giving us the "uncomfortable" feeling, you know what I mean? It's not a toxic situation that is not addressed, instead It's toxic and we are noticing it palpably.
There Is Raymond who is selfish, immature in relationships and conflicted, he's trying to keep everything together and noticing that there is something with Ian but there are also social power dynamics, and Ian who doesn't want to admit to himself that he is bothered by the situation, and feeling lost and betrayed, falling into a big depressive hole.
What I see is that there is a clear fracture that is making us uncomfortable and feel bad, so I think change is coming, and I hope we all get a character growth from this.
I try to imagine them together in the end mostly because, realistically speaking, the story is getting us to believe that they will be together in a right way someday.
I mean, it's not like "Love and Hate" where we actually have the protagonist almost fall in love with someone else, and this someone is actually an interesting character that is properly addressed inside the plot dynamics, where you actually fall for it and start thinking "oh man I like this boy, please be together for real real now"
Also, I am trying to justify the characters through plot necessity, but that doesn't mean I condone what it's happening, I do agree with the things you said, but it's also through hardship and experience that a character develops, so I confide in that.
Alright, on that much, we can definitely agree.
This is soo good and so realistically made, and it makes me so sad that to this day people don't understand how love is such a blessing in all its forms. Love is so precious and so good, why can't people see beyond their sphere? I'm always so puzzled and angry when people who are in an etero relationship criticize LGBTQ+ or mixed race couples... If they are in a relationship how can they not understand love? it's so strong and so pure, it's such a fulfilling feeling, so enrapturing and beautiful, if they found their One, why can't they understand that feeling when other people feel the same?
Why do we have to make people suffer for such a great thing?
I always become emotional at this kind of stuff because I just wish for people to be happy just like I wish to be one day.
I just feel so sad when I read something so heartbreaking, rejection for a thing so pure and beautiful like love is the real sin of humanity. Let's live our lives the best way we can and just let others love just like we would like to.
exactly what i have in mind
╥﹏╥ i’ve been saying this to my mom but in the end she’s like “but it’s wrong it says so in the bible” and it leaves me feeljng so frustrated every time so i change the topic ugh. i bet if i come out as ace they won’t even acknowledge it coz “there’s no such thing”
I'm so sorry for the lack of understanding you have been shown. As much as I've understood in my life, even if I personally distance myself from religion, I still believe that if God exists it cannot be in a place or in a book. Because it's a thing inside us as a strength, a force, a guide... It's just Love if I must say.
Our personality and our differences are to be celebrated, our love for ourselves and each other and our will to be better and do better IS the real God that I want to believe it exists.
So, I hope you will find acknowledgement and the kind of love you wish for, and if you are religious I am sure that if you'll love yourself, God will love you too.
oh my goooodd i’m literally tearing up you’re so good with word. i don’t want to not acknowledge God coz religion is a part of me but I feel guilty everytime. Now that pope welcomes all forms of family and relationships, it made me so hopeful for the future that maybe more people will acknowledge this as love like any love out there, without the stigma of what’s norm and not
my dear brother or sister ...it may hurt some people but i want to say this to u...the religious books of any religion including mine are not god's creation...they have been created by humans. They indeed have good things but it does not mean they are eternal truths.They represent the society of those times Plus...every religion give preference to the powerful...male are preferred over females ...hetros are preferred over trans or gays. Religion, Society, Family all try to Control body and mind of the individual.
The real god does not discriminate. ..for him u are as favoured as me or any one else....do mother discriminate between her own children. Why say God will be angry with a gay or trans etc...thats utter nonsense. According to me even if God comes to earth to say to u that gayness is sin...then shun such god...we ppl have enough mind and strength to create our own destiny...we live on nobodys mercy.
As far as ppl are concerned there is one saying in our country that the work of ppl is to talk...they will want to blame u..pull u down ....but u should not be concerned with them...just keep on working and living the way u want...ITS UR LIFE AND UR CHOICE..
y'all making me tear up if I grew up knowing this and not questioning or being wary of my actions I would feel more free rn...no I understand yeah it doesn't hurt coz I've been thinking abt that just I don't have anyone to open up to. I feel so safe here omg bless both of you （/TДT)/
And again, why are people mad?
I doubt that the Owner is falling for this... The whole thing is about being Detective dick and save a poor gay boy in need... And Daiki, as the perfect Watson, always misbelieves.
Also, it's never implied that they owner and Daiki are official lovers, they relieved their loneliness by doing it, Daiki even encourages dicking for the sake of love justice...
If you like someone a lot, you don't suggest "go dick him". That is why, first he needs to experience some jealousy and maybe figure out that "oh, maybe I shan't suggest dicking others anymore"
He is Sailor Dick indeed
Dick Captor Miharu LoL
"you can feel pleasure like a female" wtf hahahah
I'm frikkin hard to pleasure, I've had men feel pleasure a lot more easily and more frequently than me, also moaning more than me, feeling from the nipples more than me hahahahahaha.
Everytime they go and say these frikkin things I get mad LoL
I mean, how can I feel represented by a guy who cries, sloshes every body fluid he can produce everywhere, and cums 5/6 times in one go? I do enjoy reading him having his sexual explosion, but to say "be my woman" "you feel like a woman" "you cry like a woman" god, I cannot. I do not doubt that people that have this sex life exist, bless them, I envy those!!!, but I have friends, and we talk about stuff... We don't slosh, we don't cum 5 time in one go in such a FEMINIZED way hahahaha.
I'd feel it would be much more ok, to just represent a man that is sensitive, but in his own masculinity, right?
Exactly! Such a need to divide the receiver and the pitcher... But why?
See Dark Heaven, the sexual encounters are the BEST, because they are true to themselves as cisgender men. And, like a lot of couples do, they switch! So basic, so sexy, but also very intimate to me, and I live for that in a manga.
At every chapter I said to myself, oh gosh, I'm not reading this crazy shit anymore...
Was it the mullet? Was is the not so borderline incest? Was is the magical butthole connection?
I don't know but I read it all
Harada always blesses me with gorgeous art and sleepless nights
Had Matthew been average/ugly y'all would have been going at his throat for what he did to Hayoung. But bae is cuuute so it's all right, he can manipulate/rape/stalker whomever he wants, right?