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Salmon November 13, 2020 10:05 pm

If I'm being completely honest... I still love Dabi, Shigaraki, Hawks and all the other villains more than I do the Heroes. I see alot of people saying Dabi went too far, and that he and Shiggs should die, etc. But I don't agree. I feel like Dabi has the right to go off like that. Hawks killed Dabi's friend, Twice, and Endeavor caused so much suffering. I don't think Hawks deserves so much hate, but he did kill Twice who was innocent and didn't deserve to die. I am someone who likes emphathizing and Sympathizing with the Villains, so I feel for them more. I could care less if Enji died, but I would be so upset if Shigaraki or Dabi dies. I feel like they've been through so much pain that they don't deserve, so I feel bad for them.

    AiraIchigo November 19, 2020 2:51 am

    Oh nonono. I'm indifferent about Dabi, but there are a few things I have to disagree with you here.
    1. Dabi was never Twice's friend. Twice may think of him that way, but not vice versa. Even Dabi amitted that himself.
    2. I don't know if you noticed, but look carefully, Dabi has the footage of Twice's death, from a viewer pov => he saw him dying, but did not save Twice. And now he's using said footage to achieve his own goal. That alone should speak a lot.
    3. True, they don't deserve their hash past, but do deserve jail time for their sins. No matter how harsh your past is, killing people is your own choice, not others, and the ones getting killed here are civillains at that.
    4. Twice, wasn't innocent. Remember, he's a villain, he killed people too. Does he deserve to die? I really don't know, but saying he's innocent is not very right.
    5. People get angry at Dabi mainly because he used Twice's death as a tool (like I said above) and how he twisted his words (painting himself as a mere victim/not a bad guy while Hawks is a bad guy, when both of them already kill somebody).
    6. About Enji, well, the only people who have the right to forgive him here is the Todoroki family, not us.

    Salmon November 21, 2020 3:27 am
    Oh nonono. I'm indifferent about Dabi, but there are a few things I have to disagree with you here.1. Dabi was never Twice's friend. Twice may think of him that way, but not vice versa. Even Dabi amitted that h... AiraIchigo

    You're absolutely right. I never thought about it that way. Dabi isn't the worst person in the show, but he has made some negative decisions, same for Hawks.

    Twice is a villain and has killed people, but I guess I look at the good in people too much because all I see is a man who was betrayed by those he so desperately needed help from. I see the same for all villains, Shigaraki and Dabi were abused as children and both became villain and sought out revenge.

    I didn't notice that the POV in the video was person, and that does annoy me. Dabi could've saved Twice but he let him die just to get back at Hawks. Although Ive never really been a full fan girl about Hawks, I do feel he didn't deserve the way Dabi exposed him like that.

    Since they are Villains and have killed, they should compensate for those lives taken. Although some villaind I feel should be ou tin a mental hospital or therapy than jail. For example, Toga (and Twice if he were still alive) was captured, I think It would be more beneficial to them if they went to therapy or a mental hospital. People like Dabi, Shigaraki can't be fixed, jail won't 'change' them. They would need to be locked up in a very secure prison. People like Compress and Spinner on the other hand, didn't actually do too much, they just followed, so I think they would be put in a regular prison with fill quirk dampeners.

    I have never liked Enji and I don't think I ever will. He's hot, yes. But, his personality needs work. Alot of people who looked up to him, including Hawks, will be disappointed, but the people he disappointed the most were his family. So you're right about that, no one had the right to actually forgive him besides his family. But, does that include Dabi, because I don't think Dabi will?

    I feel can be a bit to optimistic as I always take the villains side because I feel bad for the pain they've been through. Though, you make some really interesting points. I'll have to think think about that more! 0-0

    AiraIchigo November 21, 2020 9:37 am
    You're absolutely right. I never thought about it that way. Dabi isn't the worst person in the show, but he has made some negative decisions, same for Hawks. Twice is a villain and has killed people, but I gues... Salmon

    I agree with you there. Also, thank you for replying to my comment nicely. Not eveyone is like you, willing to accept both the good and and aspects of their favourite side. As you can see, many are denying the bad things of the people that they are siding with, while at the same time, see nothing but bad stuffs on the other side. In a situation like these, I think it's good to keep a level head and observe it from different aspects.
    However, for this arc, at least for the sake those dying civillains out there, I'd the villains retreat themselves. It pains me when I saw the little girl crying and all those people crushing under the buildings.

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