i dont get the comments about fma’s portrayal of war crimes and genocides and how it weirds them out when it’s an incredible anti-war animanga. how can you read/watch this series and think “hmm i think they’re taking it too lightly” when the entire plot line revolved around an racial extermination/genocide and how the soldiers who took part in mass murder are facing punishment by becoming sacrificial goats themselves.
do yall remember that olivier scene in the briggs summit where she said she enjoys the scenery because it’s almost in black and white? but bucaneer told her to look up at the blue sky and see that things are just not black and white? i think that yall are missing that part too.
one thing this series made obvious was that it is ANTI WAR. there’s no ifs and buts. the military in this verse is incredibly frowned upon despite being a military state, and the plot progression definitely showed why it should be. it revealed that every blood shed in amestrian history was instigated by the military. it couldn’t be MORE ANTI FASCIST THAN THAT.
but it gets complicated when it comes to characters like the soldiers who took part in the extermination and scar who killed in the name of revenge. this is where the gray areas come in. this is where characters like riza and dr marcoh who have a very complicated view on their life post-ishvalan war really gets you thinking. because these military dogs are as worse as their superiors but they hated what they did and they will carry their sins until they died. this is where characters like scar make shit even more complicated. because as a survivor of an extermination, I can’t help but root for him to see through his goals. but then he started targeting ed and al who had nothing to do with the ishvalan war. and then it gets revealed that he was the one to kill the rockbell doctors. and the three childhood friends had to live with the fact that the bad man who killed winry’s parents was a product of an never ending cycle of hate. and that he couldn’t be faulted for what he’s done but they still hated what he did. do yall get what i’m saying?
i have too many words for this incredible series but i think i might have to ponder my beans about it for now. one thing i can say is that: in no way does it take war lightly. it looks down on war crimes and paints fascism in no other way than a human’s greatest pit for their downfall. that’s the overall view. but if you micro-analyze the characters that put that overall view together, you see that things aren’t always black and white. it gets messy in a human’s mind, especially if you witness the horrors of a war. you kill, you feel guilt, but you have no choice but to go on and suffer in silence in consequence of the lives you’ve taken. we don’t even have to get to the debate on whether or not the amestrian soldiers are redeemable. the series more so focused on these character’s emotions and feelings about their crimes. as if the character themselves know that they’re far from redeemable. and they could only define their actions now that they’re picking up the pieces after bradley’s reign.
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reading the manga for the first time and it feels weird. I've watched the anime long time ago and I don't remember alot from it except thinking that's one of the greatest anime out there. but now idk. the genocide stuff are rubbing me the wrong way. Roy and the rest are also rubbing me the wrong way. I'm just on chapter 10. I'll keep on reading. maybe the story will hold it's weight and will stop being icky(?). insay icky cuz idk how to describe how I feel about it. it really is an interesting timing to start this.
I had the exact experience a couple of days ago. Watching the anime as a kid, idk if the themes were just washed down or if I didn't understand the depth of it all but I loved Roy and all those characters in the military. As an adult, seeing them commit genocide and following through with their orders makes me sick to my stomach. Idek how this manga manages to redeem them, all except Armstrong who ran away actively engaged in genocide. And Armstrong still was shamed in the manga for abandoning his post when he didn't want to kill the elderly and women and kids. Roy just roasted them alive. And he's made out to be this new leader figure. I still can't wrap my head around it
I had the exact experience a couple of days ago. Watching the anime as a kid, idk if the themes were just washed down or if I didn't understand the depth of it all but I loved Roy and all those characters in th... Rice Daddy
Yes especially when Armstrong’s sister shamed him for leaving even though she knew what they were doing in order to make the philosopher’s stone. I think the main theme of equivalent exchange is represented when mustang goes blind in the anime, a bit of mercy shown by truth. Though what they did could never be forgiven and that is something they must atone every day for. I think the genocide may have been treated a bit too lightly at times in the anime, but I give it a bit of grace. Also when ed said that thing of “just because your people were killed doesn’t give you the right to kill others” when he first learned about scar’s past, I think that shows that even though he is a very intelligent individual he still doesn’t know a lot about how the world works or how it would feel like if that happened to you and I don’t mean that in a patronizing way or a mean way at all.
Yes especially when Armstrong’s sister shamed him for leaving even though she knew what they were doing in order to make the philosopher’s stone. I think the main theme of equivalent exchange is represented... User1311
I definitely agree that mustang really has no ability to emphasize with scar. We all know with his personality and weaknesses he would've committed mass murders just as scar had done, had mustang been in his seat. But for mustang to outright state the cold logic of "killing is bad no matter what had been done to you" as someone who literally committed those atrocities against scar? He's entirely unsympathetic towards anyone of that ethnicity/situation. He always chose the weak way out; he could've abandoned post like Armstrong, he could've defected to help the other side in this one sided "war", but he didn't. Hard to see his character in the same light as an adult with full understanding of the weight of the themes.
I definitely agree that mustang really has no ability to emphasize with scar. We all know with his personality and weaknesses he would've committed mass murders just as scar had done, had mustang been in his se... Rice Daddy
Oh Im sorry I meant Edward Elric for that bit but I understand what you mean
I definitely agree that mustang really has no ability to emphasize with scar. We all know with his personality and weaknesses he would've committed mass murders just as scar had done, had mustang been in his se... Rice Daddy
in the anime he actually did sympathize with scar’s situation which made his character make sense to me, but that was a great analysis
Oh you're right I misread your comment! It definitely shows Ed's naivety then mustangs apathy, in that case. Thanks for your correction! Rice Daddy
Hm idk about mustangs apathy since he was the one who showed sympathy for scar but I do agree that mustang is overall an “objective” idealist if that makes sense, and np! It was my bad for typing fast and not using capitalization lol
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Also, winry was incredibly annoying my least favorite character out of all of them
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i dont get the comments about fma’s portrayal of war crimes and genocides and how it weirds them out when it’s an incredible anti-war animanga. how can you read/watch this series and think “hmm i think they’re taking it too lightly” when the entire plot line revolved around an racial extermination/genocide and how the soldiers who took part in mass murder are facing punishment by becoming sacrificial goats themselves.
do yall remember that olivier scene in the briggs summit where she said she enjoys the scenery because it’s almost in black and white? but bucaneer told her to look up at the blue sky and see that things are just not black and white? i think that yall are missing that part too.
one thing this series made obvious was that it is ANTI WAR. there’s no ifs and buts. the military in this verse is incredibly frowned upon despite being a military state, and the plot progression definitely showed why it should be. it revealed that every blood shed in amestrian history was instigated by the military. it couldn’t be MORE ANTI FASCIST THAN THAT.
but it gets complicated when it comes to characters like the soldiers who took part in the extermination and scar who killed in the name of revenge. this is where the gray areas come in. this is where characters like riza and dr marcoh who have a very complicated view on their life post-ishvalan war really gets you thinking. because these military dogs are as worse as their superiors but they hated what they did and they will carry their sins until they died. this is where characters like scar make shit even more complicated. because as a survivor of an extermination, I can’t help but root for him to see through his goals. but then he started targeting ed and al who had nothing to do with the ishvalan war. and then it gets revealed that he was the one to kill the rockbell doctors. and the three childhood friends had to live with the fact that the bad man who killed winry’s parents was a product of an never ending cycle of hate. and that he couldn’t be faulted for what he’s done but they still hated what he did. do yall get what i’m saying?
i have too many words for this incredible series but i think i might have to ponder my beans about it for now. one thing i can say is that: in no way does it take war lightly. it looks down on war crimes and paints fascism in no other way than a human’s greatest pit for their downfall. that’s the overall view. but if you micro-analyze the characters that put that overall view together, you see that things aren’t always black and white. it gets messy in a human’s mind, especially if you witness the horrors of a war. you kill, you feel guilt, but you have no choice but to go on and suffer in silence in consequence of the lives you’ve taken. we don’t even have to get to the debate on whether or not the amestrian soldiers are redeemable. the series more so focused on these character’s emotions and feelings about their crimes. as if the character themselves know that they’re far from redeemable. and they could only define their actions now that they’re picking up the pieces after bradley’s reign.
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Yo guys Im an anime watcher of this but I saw some video abt this that said that a chapter showed where the villains would go after they died AND I WANNA SEE SHOU TUCKER BEING DRAGGED TO HELL SO PLEASE LMK WHICH CHAPTER IT IS MUAH THANKS
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https://www.mangago.me/read-manga/fullmetal_alchemist/mf/v02/c008/ volume 2, chapter 8, page 51
https://www.mangago.me/read-manga/fullmetal_alchemist/mf/v02/c008/ volume 2, chapter 8, page 51
reading the manga for the first time and it feels weird. I've watched the anime long time ago and I don't remember alot from it except thinking that's one of the greatest anime out there. but now idk. the genocide stuff are rubbing me the wrong way. Roy and the rest are also rubbing me the wrong way. I'm just on chapter 10. I'll keep on reading. maybe the story will hold it's weight and will stop being icky(?). insay icky cuz idk how to describe how I feel about it.
it really is an interesting timing to start this.
Which one should i watch first Fullmetal Alchemist or Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood?
Fullmetal alchemist Brotherhood one.
Don't watch Fullmetal Alchemist. I did and it effected the plot thing in fmab one. I rewatched again and it felt good.
I kind of know how you feel. I get very triggered by themes of war and genocide in anything I read and see now.
I had the exact experience a couple of days ago. Watching the anime as a kid, idk if the themes were just washed down or if I didn't understand the depth of it all but I loved Roy and all those characters in the military. As an adult, seeing them commit genocide and following through with their orders makes me sick to my stomach. Idek how this manga manages to redeem them, all except Armstrong who ran away actively engaged in genocide. And Armstrong still was shamed in the manga for abandoning his post when he didn't want to kill the elderly and women and kids. Roy just roasted them alive. And he's made out to be this new leader figure. I still can't wrap my head around it
Yes especially when Armstrong’s sister shamed him for leaving even though she knew what they were doing in order to make the philosopher’s stone. I think the main theme of equivalent exchange is represented when mustang goes blind in the anime, a bit of mercy shown by truth. Though what they did could never be forgiven and that is something they must atone every day for. I think the genocide may have been treated a bit too lightly at times in the anime, but I give it a bit of grace. Also when ed said that thing of “just because your people were killed doesn’t give you the right to kill others” when he first learned about scar’s past, I think that shows that even though he is a very intelligent individual he still doesn’t know a lot about how the world works or how it would feel like if that happened to you and I don’t mean that in a patronizing way or a mean way at all.
I definitely agree that mustang really has no ability to emphasize with scar. We all know with his personality and weaknesses he would've committed mass murders just as scar had done, had mustang been in his seat. But for mustang to outright state the cold logic of "killing is bad no matter what had been done to you" as someone who literally committed those atrocities against scar? He's entirely unsympathetic towards anyone of that ethnicity/situation. He always chose the weak way out; he could've abandoned post like Armstrong, he could've defected to help the other side in this one sided "war", but he didn't. Hard to see his character in the same light as an adult with full understanding of the weight of the themes.
Oh Im sorry I meant Edward Elric for that bit but I understand what you mean
in the anime he actually did sympathize with scar’s situation which made his character make sense to me, but that was a great analysis
Oh you're right I misread your comment! It definitely shows Ed's naivety then mustangs apathy, in that case. Thanks for your correction!
Hm idk about mustangs apathy since he was the one who showed sympathy for scar but I do agree that mustang is overall an “objective” idealist if that makes sense, and np! It was my bad for typing fast and not using capitalization lol
I now finally understand why people love this, understand the story. For the longest I never understand any of the storyline but it is amazing story
I grow up watching this anime. One of my favorite.. back then I had a huge crush on Mustang . My childhood crush was an anime character
Re-reading this masterpiece again