Many years ago I was swept up by this manga because I adored everything Yusa Kouji is involved in (he voices Reiichirou). But as I got older I saw the imperfections. The pairing isn't an ideal functioning relationship but they're complementary. Reiichirou is naive, awkward, and stubborn compared to experienced, confident and adaptable Jinnai. Reiichirou is also more emotionally mature and rational than he appears while Jinnai is exposed to be very impatient, hypocritical, and immature despite being the older one. They say opposites attract and you want someone that completes you, but in reality both should bring something positive to the table and unfortunately in the last volume, looks like only Reiichirou is trying. He's so understanding of Jinnai while the opposite can't really be said. It's still an entertaining read after all these years
To be honest. I've read this manga countless times and I weirdly like it. I think it's because it's one of the earliest yaoi I read so there's a nostalgia factor in play. I read the story with his brother first but I found this version more compelling so I like it more. But even so, the more I read it, the more I just find it so sad and annoying what happens. Jinnai is too forceful. He forces Reiichirou into a relationship without waiting for a response even though he SAID HE WOULD. Kijima comes on to him and he hides it from Reiichirou and acts like it's fine that HE'S alone with Kijima when he kept throwing a fit when Kijima was alone with Reiichirou. Even though it's for work and unavoidable. Then he hypocritically keeps hanging out with Kijima when Reiichirou is forced to hang out with the girl from the omiai. Like I do understand Reiichirou tends to take things as they come, but he can't help it. That's how he is and his family is pressuring him. Like at this point I read it for Reiichirou. His whole story is just sad. Like I said, he takes things as they come. He can't fight back, nor does he want to. His entire life was basically planned for him and he accepts it. He doesn't dislike the family business, so that aspect is fine. But since he's very sheltered, he's not very social and doesn't understand social cues that well. Yet he managed to have a best friend in Haru, which is great. But Haru leaves him due to his own feelings for Reiichirou. That's understandable, Haru's not at fault for that. It hurt too much to just be friends, and in that case it's fine for him to step away. But it also really hurt Reiichirou because the man DOESN'T HAVE FRIENDS. As far as the reader knows, he has no one else in his life he's particularly close to. It's hard to even say if he's close to his family. He WANTS to be close to his younger brother, but his younger brother finds him hard to deal with as well. Since Reiichirou is hella blunt without meaning to be. And plus, Tsukasa is in love with Haru sooo jealousy's involved. Jinnai even acknowledged he's lonely and sensitive. And so Reiichirou just wants Haru back as a friend because he misses him, since again. He was literally his best (and possibly only) friend. But Tsukasa doesn't want that to happen. And who knows if Haru ever did become his friend again after saying they could be. After basically being told he loves Jinnai by Jinnai, Reiichirou starts dating him. His love for him does grow and become more obvious, especially when we see his viewpoint. But he's got his family on his back, and he's not one to rebel. And his family situation really doesn't call for it. I can't even say he's too soft or a doormat for that because it's not easy going against family. Especially since before he never really had a reason too. So he's not sure how to handle the situation of his omia and how to say no or convince his family that the answer is no. It really isn't his fault. And then to top it all, he has to suffer from Jinnai's insecurities and abuse (yes that was abusive) when Jinnai literally yanks his arm away from him and caused him to fall. Then slams his hand next to his head when interrogating him. And then again yanks him by his tie and shoves him when he's upset about Reiichirou having to still meet that girl, then rapes him again (since he did that the first time around when beginning the relationship too like yeesh man.) And then yeah again he has to watch Jinnai choosing to hang out with Kijima even though he knows Kijima has feelings for him. All out of spite? Jinnai doesn't think it's the same but it is. Then Jinna starts running away and trying to leave him. Like this page basically sums up Reiichirou's experience and breaks my heart:
This basically forces Reiichirou's hand and causes him to come out to his family just to be able to be with Jinnai. It's a good thing his father didn't go trying to figure out Jinnai's identity. Like. Reiichirou deserves better. It's ironic as hell that Jinnai is even aware that he doesn't treat Reiichirou that well, what with him being worried Reiichirou will go along with Kijima's advances since he ended up going out with Jinnai. And then sure he did apologize when Reiichirous does give him a blowjob later since he was forced to the first time around. And he realized he was the running but seriously most of the problems really did come from his own insecurity. Being hurt from the omia is natural, but he didn't have to react that cruelly. Like do better sir. I really, really feel sad for Reiichirou. I really do.
People like Jinnai exist but they don't always have an understanding partner like Reiichirou.... I'm glad that it's a manga because of the rape but I'm also sad that it's only in a manga and not in real life we find people who understand us ┗( T﹏T )┛
I mean that rape scene wasn't cool and could have been omitted completely but I do understand Jinnai's feelings. Rei was too soft when it comes to rejecting his imai. Of course anyone would feel insecure and sick of the relationship especially when that lady was so persistent and Rei just kept using lame-ass excuse like, oh I just became a store manager and suI wish the author would have just skipped the rape and gone to the transfer request part.
my anger issues couldn’t handle this. like the top was in the exact same situation he was even fucking kissed while the bottom is clearly saying he’s going to turn down the marriage interviews and shit but then the top has the audacity to rape him???? like wtf i think the top being kissed made me even more mad like wtf
all i'm thinking about is that what will happen when their father will found out that their younger son ( tsukasa) is also in a relationship with a man from the prequel - kimi ga koi ni ochiru Σ(っ°Д °;)っ.
The president (uke's father) seems like a good man.
Even since the first volume all I think in my head is.. they got a lot of hurdles and they seems unprepared, or even unaware about it.
Glad the father reacted calmly. And even tho the father dissaprove, I like that he's being straightforward and not being unnecessarily cruel/harsh.
The seme gotta work on that trust issue and that anger management problem. He might ended up hurting the uke during sex if he continue being like he is now.
The ending looks like a happy ending in the surface but my brain can't help but think that it's just a start of an uphill battle what's with the family dissaproval and that trust issue.
why do good mangas always take a turn to the worst? I was in a state of agony while reading vol 2. The seme seriously pissed me off. He was so angry at uke beacuse he went to imai although uke reassured him that he was going to reject. BUT NOPE, he was scared of him cheating on seme because he was straight. So much Trust issues, insecurities, *ROUGH* sex, afraid about uke to cheat when he kissed kajima twice and never seriously rejected him until the second kiss. Dont come at me with it was forced. srsly uke deserves better. uuuuuuuuuuuuuuugh
What? He flat out rejected him two times first time and second time. Aren't you being too unfair? What about considering how much of a block head that Kijima is?
Um. If you ask me Jinnai was pretty damn patient. An Imai is literally a blind date so of course he would feel scared and insecure. I get the uke had to constantly reassure him but he cared more about not wanting to hurt the other woman instead of his partners feelings. Also Jin straight rejected Kijima every time, Even if Kijima was able to slip through and land kisses on him. He was brutal and went straight to the point.
Um. If you ask me Jinnai was pretty damn patient. An Imai is literally a blind date so of course he would feel scared and insecure. I get the uke had to constantly reassure him but he cared more about not wanti... Sais
Personally I believe that went through enough and they both deserve each other, but I do get what your getting at. The seme was really anxious about the uke going on the arrange meeting and was insecure, but it wasnt really an excuse to force him into “doing it” :/
Personally I believe that went through enough and they both deserve each other, but I do get what your getting at. The seme was really anxious about the uke going on the arrange meeting and was insecure, but it... yoruspks
So I wanna confess that, i used to be someone like the Seme, and i can complete understand why he did that....when the insecurities nand bad thoughts get heavy, you do actually forget about good and bad. I'm so jealous of the Seme because he's got a very understanding and patient partner....i wish i had someone like that, but i had to learned it the hard way ╥﹏╥
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Many years ago I was swept up by this manga because I adored everything Yusa Kouji is involved in (he voices Reiichirou). But as I got older I saw the imperfections. The pairing isn't an ideal functioning relationship but they're complementary. Reiichirou is naive, awkward, and stubborn compared to experienced, confident and adaptable Jinnai. Reiichirou is also more emotionally mature and rational than he appears while Jinnai is exposed to be very impatient, hypocritical, and immature despite being the older one. They say opposites attract and you want someone that completes you, but in reality both should bring something positive to the table and unfortunately in the last volume, looks like only Reiichirou is trying. He's so understanding of Jinnai while the opposite can't really be said. It's still an entertaining read after all these years
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To be honest. I've read this manga countless times and I weirdly like it. I think it's because it's one of the earliest yaoi I read so there's a nostalgia factor in play. I read the story with his brother first but I found this version more compelling so I like it more. But even so, the more I read it, the more I just find it so sad and annoying what happens. Jinnai is too forceful. He forces Reiichirou into a relationship without waiting for a response even though he SAID HE WOULD. Kijima comes on to him and he hides it from Reiichirou and acts like it's fine that HE'S alone with Kijima when he kept throwing a fit when Kijima was alone with Reiichirou. Even though it's for work and unavoidable. Then he hypocritically keeps hanging out with Kijima when Reiichirou is forced to hang out with the girl from the omiai. Like I do understand Reiichirou tends to take things as they come, but he can't help it. That's how he is and his family is pressuring him. Like at this point I read it for Reiichirou.
His whole story is just sad.
Like I said, he takes things as they come. He can't fight back, nor does he want to. His entire life was basically planned for him and he accepts it. He doesn't dislike the family business, so that aspect is fine. But since he's very sheltered, he's not very social and doesn't understand social cues that well. Yet he managed to have a best friend in Haru, which is great. But Haru leaves him due to his own feelings for Reiichirou. That's understandable, Haru's not at fault for that. It hurt too much to just be friends, and in that case it's fine for him to step away. But it also really hurt Reiichirou because the man DOESN'T HAVE FRIENDS. As far as the reader knows, he has no one else in his life he's particularly close to. It's hard to even say if he's close to his family. He WANTS to be close to his younger brother, but his younger brother finds him hard to deal with as well. Since Reiichirou is hella blunt without meaning to be. And plus, Tsukasa is in love with Haru sooo jealousy's involved. Jinnai even acknowledged he's lonely and sensitive.
And so Reiichirou just wants Haru back as a friend because he misses him, since again. He was literally his best (and possibly only) friend. But Tsukasa doesn't want that to happen. And who knows if Haru ever did become his friend again after saying they could be.
After basically being told he loves Jinnai by Jinnai, Reiichirou starts dating him. His love for him does grow and become more obvious, especially when we see his viewpoint. But he's got his family on his back, and he's not one to rebel. And his family situation really doesn't call for it. I can't even say he's too soft or a doormat for that because it's not easy going against family. Especially since before he never really had a reason too. So he's not sure how to handle the situation of his omia and how to say no or convince his family that the answer is no. It really isn't his fault. And then to top it all, he has to suffer from Jinnai's insecurities and abuse (yes that was abusive) when Jinnai literally yanks his arm away from him and caused him to fall. Then slams his hand next to his head when interrogating him. And then again yanks him by his tie and shoves him when he's upset about Reiichirou having to still meet that girl, then rapes him again (since he did that the first time around when beginning the relationship too like yeesh man.)
And then yeah again he has to watch Jinnai choosing to hang out with Kijima even though he knows Kijima has feelings for him. All out of spite? Jinnai doesn't think it's the same but it is.
Then Jinna starts running away and trying to leave him. Like this page basically sums up Reiichirou's experience and breaks my heart:
https://www.mangago.me/read-manga/kimi_ga_koi_ni_oboreru/mf/v03/c005/21/
This basically forces Reiichirou's hand and causes him to come out to his family just to be able to be with Jinnai. It's a good thing his father didn't go trying to figure out Jinnai's identity.
Like. Reiichirou deserves better. It's ironic as hell that Jinnai is even aware that he doesn't treat Reiichirou that well, what with him being worried Reiichirou will go along with Kijima's advances since he ended up going out with Jinnai. And then sure he did apologize when Reiichirous does give him a blowjob later since he was forced to the first time around. And he realized he was the running but seriously most of the problems really did come from his own insecurity. Being hurt from the omia is natural, but he didn't have to react that cruelly. Like do better sir. I really, really feel sad for Reiichirou. I really do.
I can relate so much to this manga, like it's so much like my last relationship except the rape part, but i can completely understand why he did that
People like Jinnai exist but they don't always have an understanding partner like Reiichirou.... I'm glad that it's a manga because of the rape but I'm also sad that it's only in a manga and not in real life we find people who understand us ┗( T﹏T )┛
the rape scene is such a turn off ffs sigh....
Right
I mean that rape scene wasn't cool and could have been omitted completely but I do understand Jinnai's feelings. Rei was too soft when it comes to rejecting his imai. Of course anyone would feel insecure and sick of the relationship especially when that lady was so persistent and Rei just kept using lame-ass excuse like, oh I just became a store manager and suI wish the author would have just skipped the rape and gone to the transfer request part.
Any more stories where the pair suffers because of family expectations?
my anger issues couldn’t handle this. like the top was in the exact same situation he was even fucking kissed while the bottom is clearly saying he’s going to turn down the marriage interviews and shit but then the top has the audacity to rape him???? like wtf i think the top being kissed made me even more mad like wtf
all i'm thinking about is that what will happen when their father will found out that their younger son ( tsukasa) is also in a relationship with a man from the prequel - kimi ga koi ni ochiru Σ(っ°Д °;)っ.
I didn't thought that!
I hate every character in this manga, also the story.(╯°Д °)╯╧╧not gonna read this again
The president (uke's father) seems like a good man.
Even since the first volume all I think in my head is.. they got a lot of hurdles and they seems unprepared, or even unaware about it.
Glad the father reacted calmly. And even tho the father dissaprove, I like that he's being straightforward and not being unnecessarily cruel/harsh.
The seme gotta work on that trust issue and that anger management problem. He might ended up hurting the uke during sex if he continue being like he is now.
The ending looks like a happy ending in the surface but my brain can't help but think that it's just a start of an uphill battle what's with the family dissaproval and that trust issue.
why do good mangas always take a turn to the worst?
I was in a state of agony while reading vol 2. The seme seriously pissed me off. He was so angry at uke beacuse he went to imai although uke reassured him that he was going to reject. BUT NOPE, he was scared of him cheating on seme because he was straight. So much Trust issues, insecurities, *ROUGH* sex, afraid about uke to cheat when he kissed kajima twice and never seriously rejected him until the second kiss. Dont come at me with it was forced. srsly uke deserves better. uuuuuuuuuuuuuuugh
What? He flat out rejected him two times first time and second time. Aren't you being too unfair? What about considering how much of a block head that Kijima is?
Um. If you ask me Jinnai was pretty damn patient. An Imai is literally a blind date so of course he would feel scared and insecure. I get the uke had to constantly reassure him but he cared more about not wanting to hurt the other woman instead of his partners feelings. Also Jin straight rejected Kijima every time, Even if Kijima was able to slip through and land kisses on him. He was brutal and went straight to the point.
Agree!
Personally I believe that went through enough and they both deserve each other, but I do get what your getting at. The seme was really anxious about the uke going on the arrange meeting and was insecure, but it wasnt really an excuse to force him into “doing it” :/
So I wanna confess that, i used to be someone like the Seme, and i can complete understand why he did that....when the insecurities nand bad thoughts get heavy, you do actually forget about good and bad. I'm so jealous of the Seme because he's got a very understanding and patient partner....i wish i had someone like that, but i had to learned it the hard way ╥﹏╥
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